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I’ve had a couple natal cultures that took well over a month to pin, so that happens sometimes.
Even then it was never great flushes, but ultra potent.
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Thanks for all the input guys! I harvested the shoebox and took 5 of the largest caps (still tiny) to try and print. One of my other shoeboxes seems to be putting out slightly larger fruits. This one was uncased (the one from my previous post had been cased at spawn, and pinned way ahead of the others, so there's that).

Anyhow, I got like 50g wet from the spaghetti. My wife and I will take 15g wet each and go hike on this hill in a few hours. Will report back later
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Heeeelll yeah!
Dude that is some serious flatland.
I grew up near the coast of Southern California so there were mountains everywhere. The first time I drove through an open space like that I saw a rainstorm off in the distance and could not figure out what it was til I got there.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
#27436936 - 08/21/21 07:37 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Anyone got the pheno without veil? Picture pls
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
#27436947 - 08/21/21 07:47 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: Dude that is some serious flatland.
I grew up near the coast of Southern California so there were mountains everywhere. The first time I drove through an open space like that I saw a rainstorm off in the distance and could not figure out what it was til I got there. 
Fucy yes weather systems like rainstorms are amazing to watch in open fields or such flat terrain. This hill is awesome in that once you "climb" it, it's got like a flatland on top of it again, but with native vegetation instead of crops. There are some cool orchids and weird fungi, as well as some cows and freaking huge birds of prey called "Caranchos"

Smalltalk iirc there's pics of the no veil pheno in the first few pages of the thread.
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It might have partly been set and setting, but I don't think this species gives a trip that's as positive as everyone thinks. I just had a trip that may have been useful (time will tell), but it was terrifying and later depressing. Haven't some other people posted that the trip was depressing? How does that jive with the idea that this species might be less of a 'bad trip' risk than cubensis?
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: tripleD]
#27437146 - 08/21/21 10:23 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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tripleD said: I’m so glad I found this thread. I acquired a few colonized grain bags from a friend with zero info.
I have been g2g expanding for 3 generations and decided to go to fruit after I had all these crazy mycelium Aerial structures and chopped some climbing mycelium and took it to agar.
Early in my expansions I took some to bulk (composted manure/coco/verm). They seemed to stall at half colonization. This was more than a months ago.
To my surprise one bag started pinning.
 🤩 I decided to create some trays and more to more smaller bulk myco bags.
I’m am trying to dial in my room.
Any one have any suggestions or modifications to my plans? …
Warm in the day (lights on) Cool at night (dark)
Constant Intake with filter on high full blast indirect (high elevation) — keeps positive pressure in room, provides lots of FAE
Hourly exhaust on lowest setting (low elevation) — causes drop in RH forcing Humidifier to kick on and fog the room up keeping the colonized subs from drying out.
Rotating fan to create a breeze
Specific temp/Rh settings— Day: 85F 93% RH
Night: 74F 93% RH
Sounds like you have more of a grow op versus the two bins I tinker with a few times a year, but 93RH sounds problematic. I had issues balancing enough humidity to not dry out or not swallow pins with overlay. I started at 95, was still having issues at 85, dropped to 65 and that worked. It was jigsawing from 60-75RH in 3 minute cycles, so if your system will hold a better constant, I'm guessing the sweet spot is closer to 70-75.
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It’s a long shot that these have high levels of the good trip alkaloid, but the first bunch of reports we had were all unusually positive.
My own experiences have been the same, but that could be all kinds of stuff. That’s why I wish we could get them throughly analyzed.
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I’ve had some depressing trips on these for sure. I chalk them up to set and setting but what really does me in is the duration. Unless I make tea, I find that the trip lasts longer than that of cubes. When I’m having a rough time on cubes, I know it’ll be over relatively soon. Definitely not the case with these. While I do think it’s easier to have a good time on nats, when it’s bad, it’s dreadful.
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Quote:
gone-pear-shaped said: It might have partly been set and setting, but I don't think this species gives a trip that's as positive as everyone thinks. I just had a trip that may have been useful (time will tell), but it was terrifying and later depressing. Haven't some other people posted that the trip was depressing? How does that jive with the idea that this species might be less of a 'bad trip' risk than cubensis?
As more reports come in, we have been seeing more folks report differing experiences.
I don't think anyone really ever thought they were fully "bad trip proof", just many people were reporting overwhelmingly "different" affects than cubes, with most of them very profound and also positive.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: karri0n]
#27437403 - 08/21/21 02:33 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Lostkeys]
#27437485 - 08/21/21 03:58 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm back. It was an awesome experience to say the least. They felt a bit better than cubes, I don't really know how to explain it. And they are pretty potent too.
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Thank you for the input. Yes I have LC going on the most aggressive mycelium samples I pulled from agar. The stalled bag that fruited was an early attempt to do a slurry. The expansions have been doing great actually.
I wanted to try to mimic the climate of the Natal climate.
I’ll let you guys know how the settings actually go for what I have going. 😇
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I'd really like to see these things profiled for potency though. If "average" GT is around 0.6%, and PE is in the 0.9% range, these things have to be in the 1.5-2.0 range which sounds odd as that would rival wood lovers. That or there is a collection of contributors.
PE is higher that that if you isolate for potency though. Of course that's true of any cube. Looking forward to doing this for these.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: PrimalSoup]
#27438727 - 08/22/21 04:22 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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i got dark prints from some of the larger spaghetti caps 

I'll keep printing them and do a giveaway later.
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A lot of mine seem to be random. I can take ten caps from a flush and get anywhere from 2-8 prints.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
#27438885 - 08/22/21 07:09 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I’ve found the same thing to be true… unless I wait for them to get really mature I don’t necessarily get all the caps to print.
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Okay, so at 11:45am I ingested a conservative 1.2g dose of my recent natalensis grow. I was nervous regarding potency as recent reports have indicated it to be quite high. I'm disappointed to say that this low dose, at least from my batch of ms genetics seems to have missed that mark.
Long story short, very slight visual distortion, low body load, nothing much to speak of. I would consider my genetics sub par honestly. I do have another set of genetics from a secondary source, of which I'll be growing out shortly.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Lostkeys]
#27439519 - 08/23/21 12:47 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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With all the reports of these having a different "quality" of trip than cubes, has anybody done a bioassay chemical analysis on these? Maybe they have more/different tryptamines?
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Jacubey]
#27439558 - 08/23/21 01:09 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Jacubey said: With all the reports of these having a different "quality" of trip than cubes, has anybody done a bioassay on these? Maybe they have more/different tryptamines?
"Bioassay" means to observe the effects on living tissue - aka eat it and see what happens.
What you're talking about is chemical analysis.
Hasn't happened yet as far as I know.
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