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Re: Top Layer/Pseudo-casing by p9 [Re: LimitBreaker] 1
#27580818 - 12/14/21 06:17 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Four Shoe Boxes, SWPE, P9 Style




Side Shot of one of the boxes:

Praying for some blob-less flushes...
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Re: Top Layer/Pseudo-casing by p9 [Re: LimitBreaker]
#27580854 - 12/14/21 07:31 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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LimitBreaker said:
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fahtster said: The 16qt is about to get chopped.. gotta say this is a really nice weapon to have in the arsenal. Kudos, pal!

Faht
That's my dream shoebox flush. What was the yield on that?
It’s a 16qt bin.. 2 qts of spawn. 89g dry
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Re: Top Layer/Pseudo-casing by p9 [Re: fahtster] 1
#27581284 - 12/14/21 03:11 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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What a haul. 89g is what I'd expect from a 66qt flush.
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Re: Top Layer/Pseudo-casing by p9 [Re: LimitBreaker] 1
#27582104 - 12/15/21 08:21 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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89g from 66qt flush wouldnt be very good
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Re: Top Layer/Pseudo-casing by p9 [Re: LotKid] 1
#27582235 - 12/15/21 09:50 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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112gr is a minimum benchmark, anything less than a 1/4lb is a complete failure imo.
160-224gr first flush from a 66qt is what I aim for, and what I encourage others to aim for as well....anything more than that calls for a drink. I've heard that some folks can get 280 (~3500 wet grams), I'm not sure if this is a fish tale or not but I'll keep working at it for myself to see if it's actually achievable.
Edited by Stipe-n Cap (12/15/21 10:08 AM)
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Re: Top Layer/Pseudo-casing by p9 [Re: Stipe-n Cap] 1
#27582293 - 12/15/21 10:28 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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p9hu7 said: 112gr is a minimum benchmark, anything less than a 1/4lb is a complete failure imo.
160-224gr first flush from a 66qt is what I aim for, and what I encourage others to aim for as well....anything more than that calls for a drink. I've heard that some folks can get 280 (~3500 wet grams), I'm not sure if this is a fish tale or not but I'll keep working at it for myself to see if it's actually achievable.
i still suck at this but it doesn’t stop me trying
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Re: Top Layer/Pseudo-casing by p9 [Re: SpaceBaby] 1
#27583669 - 12/16/21 12:18 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've been growing not very long, since spring 2021. I am shredding pf cakes to coir shoeboxes. Was having trouble getting a decent pinset.
Some friends on Nexus recommended casing. I read this Tek. Made a shoebox. Here is some pics, this is most prolific pinset I've achieved. I am doing all of my boxes this way from now on.
Thank you kindly.

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Re: Top Layer/Pseudo-casing by p9 [Re: Tony6Strings]
#27584821 - 12/17/21 11:57 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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MysticMycologist said: Looks like I have a serious case of side pins. I guess I didn’t compress the sub enough. I’m thinking of birthing it and fruiting it as a cake in a humidity chamber. Waiting on more feedback.





Looks like I didn’t compress enough. Would you recommend birthing this and fruiting as a cake?
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Just top fruit it as per usual.
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Re: Top Layer/Pseudo-casing by p9 [Re: Stipe-n Cap] 1
#27584893 - 12/17/21 01:02 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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So just leave it be? Cool. Neglect is what I’m most adept at. Thank you so much P9.
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Stipe-n Cap


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Mushrooms hate it when we're always looking over their shoulders. Once the train has left the platform let it ride.
All fuckery should be done at spawning in my opinion.
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Tony6Strings said: I am doing all of my boxes this way from now on.
Thank you kindly.


Nice, good luck. Looks like you have some yellowing from metabolites but those pins should fill in nicely. Follow up with a pre harvest pic if you wouldn't mind.
Thanks for posting
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Re: Top Layer/Pseudo-casing by p9 [Re: Stipe-n Cap] 4
#27588119 - 12/20/21 09:59 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Harvest. Best performing shoebox I've grown so far. Wet weight 440. Thanks again P9.
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Re: Top Layer/Pseudo-casing by p9 [Re: Tony6Strings] 1
#27588123 - 12/20/21 10:04 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tony6Strings said: Harvest. Best performing shoebox I've grown so far. Wet weight 440. Thanks again P9.

Nice!
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Re: Top Layer/Pseudo-casing by p9 [Re: Tony6Strings] 1
#27588125 - 12/20/21 10:05 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Right on 
Now try filling with more sub, see how that affects this culture.
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Re: Top Layer/Pseudo-casing by p9 [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#27588726 - 12/20/21 07:38 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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p9hu7 said: Notice the lack of head space.
The same applies to full size monos but without consideration to headspace, obviously. Thickness combined with compression wins the game, should you still experience blobs you'll need to dial that in.
In a full size mono, why is head space not an issue?
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Re: Top Layer/Pseudo-casing by p9 [Re: MycoWeek] 2
#27589177 - 12/21/21 07:15 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Because with a mono you can run a thick sub with lot's of space for fruits to mature, so headspace is not a consideration.
With a shoebox I'm attempting to create as close to the same conditions as you would find in a 66qt mono, just with a smaller footprint. This shoebox approach is like taking a cookie cutter that removes 1/4 of the 66qt mono's substrate to fruit on its own. Same spawn to substrate ratio, same sub thickness, etc.
This means that the shoebox will be filled to the brim, which doesn't allow any head room for fruits to mature, hence the necessity for a fruiting chamber.
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Re: Top Layer/Pseudo-casing by p9 [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#27589334 - 12/21/21 10:44 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ah ic. the extra space is not causing problem, it’s more about utilizing vertical real estate of the shoebox.
Working on a few mid monos now, and really getting an hang of your tek. Had to drastically increase the amount of CVG I prepare each batch, since compression tek uses so much more material compare to just leveling substrate out. Still amazes me how much CVG each tub takes, and how much it compresses. I love how substrate doesn’t shrink as much after a flush, and this tek drastically reduces side and bottom pins.
This tub is Natal Super in 32Qt. The line between bottom and top is orgasmic to see.

This is PEU-Revert in 32qt, tons of primordias across the whole surface, I think it’s going to be the best pin set I have since I started this hobby. Top layer is a little thin at only half an inch, because I ran out of CVG.
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Re: Top Layer/Pseudo-casing by p9 [Re: MycoWeek] 3
#27589338 - 12/21/21 10:47 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Looking good man, yeah I like seeing that boundary as well, very cool to watch it work.
Looks like you have some nice clusters coming in. It takes a bit of dialing like anything else, but not much. Once you get the feel for it, it really performs well.
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Re: Top Layer/Pseudo-casing by p9 [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#27589657 - 12/21/21 03:52 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hi there.
p9, I appreciate you. I have learned a great deal from reading your threads. Your spawn checklist in particular has been a tremendous help.
This is my first grow.
I'm utilizing your technique, albeit slightly modified. This is a 16 QT tub which has been spawned with 2 quart jars of APE spawn (MS > agar > jar).
The spawn ratio was 1:2 with a 1.5" top layer of coconut coir. The spawn and the top layer were both compressed using a trowel. The container is completely unmodified and was spawned to bulk 24 days ago. The lid was left sealed for the first 18 or so days and then flipped upside down.
I'm not quite sure what's happening here. The substrate seems to be covered in primordia which are slowly growing into pins.
Is this a cause for alarm?




Thank you!
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“The substrate seems to be covered in primordia which are slowly growing into pins.”
Good problem to have.
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