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I’m new. Did I ruin my first harvest
    #27402972 - 07/26/21 03:34 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

So. I have looked through the forum and read a few things but was hoping to get more insight.

Being heavily involved in extreme sports I have had a life long fight with head injuries. Just over a year ago I had a really bad injury that has changed me. Like many others I suffer from cte.  depression anxiety and sever anger now hit me out of nowhere daily.

From this I found micro dosing hoping it may help. Fast forward to where I’m at now.

Very very new

Looking for some help from the experienced because I don’t have anyone around me with the correct knowledge. I’m told just eat a few small caps as see what happens. psychedelics have always made me a little nervous. No real reason other than bad trip stories.

I got some wild cubensis mushrooms from a guy but he doesn’t really use them for micro or very often so not a lot of help there.

I dried them in a dehydrator at 140-150 deg F and fell asleep while they were drying so they ran for about 12 hours. Hoping I didn’t destroy them or over cook. In the future it will be a low temp setting and no sleeping on the clock.

From there I ground some up and tried a dose at 0.2. Just ate the raw powder with some water. I didn’t notice anything different. Mood was the same. Today I tried .25 without any noticeable difference. Tomorrow I will try .3 and increase by .05 until I feel different .

I am a daily weed smoker. Don’t smoke while trying the micro dose until the end of the day when I’m am sure I haven’t had any feelings from the mushrooms. I am hoping my experience with weed doesn’t cloud my expectations of the effects of mushrooms.

Sorry for the long first post. Just wanted to get as much info out at one time.

1. Did I over cook and ruin or change potency. I’ve Read it’s air and not necessarily heat that affects potency. Wanted to make sure my extreme heat and long duration we’re not a factor.

2. Know everyone is different and dosing will be different from person to person but I don’t feel anything at all. Could I be overlooking the effects of mushrooms by inadvertently comparing it to weed and the feeling from that.

I will keep increasing the dose daily until I notice a difference and then I will back it down.

Thanks for the time.

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Re: I’m new. Did I ruin my first harvest [Re: Derek03]
    #27403370 - 07/26/21 08:21 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Are you sure they're cubes? I'm guessing wild cubes would be less potent, but I don't have any experience with them. Did the guy who gave them to you eat from the same patch to confirm they're at least active? With cultivated ones you should notice something from a cap or two for sure. You might want to read up on some trip reports and get an idea on set and setting and that kind of stuff. You're better off in a trip if you go into it with a happy low-anxiety mindset. If you know how much a light dose affects you then it's easier to cut it down on the next go to get the effect you want. BUT I don't want to tell you to eat those since I don't know what they are. You definitely want to be sure you know what you're eating with wild mushrooms. there are lots of little brown mushrooms in the world. They might just be weak cubes though.


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Re: I’m new. Did I ruin my first harvest [Re: Mr.GuessWork] * 1
    #27403415 - 07/26/21 08:55 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

You did fine on the drying...IMO it's actaully pretty optimal to use 160f for 12-24 hours depending on how many are in the dehydrator.  You want them to literally break like a cracker if you try to bend one - the dryer the better.

Don't worry about those being something else - they're cubes.

Most people can't detect .2 - but everyone is different so experiment as you have planned until you find your happy place that doesn't interfere with your daily abilities.  MAOI inhibitors can also cancel the felt effects of the shrooms if you happen to be taking any.


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Re: I’m new. Did I ruin my first harvest [Re: PBJ710]
    #27406883 - 07/29/21 10:17 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Just wanted to post an update. Up to .5 today. Still not feeling any effects from what I can tell.

My best description of what I could feel if anything is kind of like a very weak energy drink jittery feeling.

In all fairness I also drank an energy drink but they don’t normally have any effects on me other than a few occasions when I drank 3-4 while driving through the night.

Still wondering if I’m missing something. Or I have set my expectations of what I should feel to close to a weed high which is the only thing I have ever done outside of drinking.

People say set and setting plays a role but is that the same for micro dosing. A full trip I understand although I have not had that experience yet.

My hope from all I have read and listened to was that this would be something profound. Dealing with a head injury causing depression anxiety and anger management issues is going to make mindset difficult.  I feel like if I need to believe so badly that something is working then how much of that is placebo and not actually real effects.

I will continue to increase until I start to trip I guess and then back down from there. Started increasing by .1 instead of .05

I keep all I have ground up in a small sealed container with a very small amount of air space. I haven’t put it into pill form yet as I was trying to find my dosage. I ground up more than I needed to being my first time. I read air effects potency so I try to keep it sealed.

I thought that by .5 I would have noticed something. Starting to loose hope.


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Re: I’m new. Did I ruin my first harvest [Re: Derek03]
    #27407053 - 07/29/21 12:07 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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Derek03 said:
Just wanted to post an update. Up to .5 today. Still not feeling any effects from what I can tell.

My best description of what I could feel if anything is kind of like a very weak energy drink jittery feeling.

In all fairness I also drank an energy drink but they don’t normally have any effects on me other than a few occasions when I drank 3-4 while driving through the night.

Still wondering if I’m missing something. Or I have set my expectations of what I should feel to close to a weed high which is the only thing I have ever done outside of drinking.

People say set and setting plays a role but is that the same for micro dosing. A full trip I understand although I have not had that experience yet.

My hope from all I have read and listened to was that this would be something profound. Dealing with a head injury causing depression anxiety and anger management issues is going to make mindset difficult.  I feel like if I need to believe so badly that something is working then how much of that is placebo and not actually real effects.

I will continue to increase until I start to trip I guess and then back down from there. Started increasing by .1 instead of .05

I keep all I have ground up in a small sealed container with a very small amount of air space. I haven’t put it into pill form yet as I was trying to find my dosage. I ground up more than I needed to being my first time. I read air effects potency so I try to keep it sealed.

I thought that by .5 I would have noticed something. Starting to loose hope.




Kinda hard to know how much of microdosing is real and how much is a placebo. I mean if I take 0.2/5 grams I wouldn't feel anything either.

The only time a trip has therapeutic benefits for me is if I go through an actual trip- usually a bit (or sometimes a lot) of an ordeal. The nature of life itself is that we often reap rewards from hard work (exercise, study, diet, etc) and it's exactly the same with psychedelics. A trying experience often makes one thankful to be alive and a return to normality seems like a positive blessing. The therapeutic benefits don't simply appear by magic though it's a real hard slog.

I think you'd get more benefits by taking a proper dose personally providing you are in the right frame of mind of course.

I recommend Mimosa and Syrian rue over mushrooms though.


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Re: I’m new. Did I ruin my first harvest [Re: Derek03]
    #27407143 - 07/29/21 12:45 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I think your expectations may be off.

Most people don't have a profound experience with microdosing.  You generally won't directly notice the effects as it's more of a cumulative effect like excercise is.  If you're looking for profound eureka moments, that generally requires a full on ego death to induce.  If this is your goal, start with 2g and go up in .5g increments so you don't get overwhelmed when you get to that point.  Give youself a week between attempts so that your tolerance can drop off.

IMO you will have a better experience if you fast for at least 6 hours before and try to stay away from other drugs/chemicals as much as possible (caffeine/alcohol/nicotine/etc) beforehand - allow your body focus on one thing and not be distracted.

If it makes you feel any better, I have to eat a gram of average cubes to notice it and at least 2 to get minimal visuals.


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Re: I’m new. Did I ruin my first harvest [Re: PBJ710]
    #27425887 - 08/12/21 07:50 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

its good to experiment for the right dose of microdosing. keep upping your dose every 3rd day until you find yourself staring at door knobs as Dr Fadiman puts it. then back down to the previous dose where its just working in the background, subperceptual level, and this would be your normal microdose.


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Re: I’m new. Did I ruin my first harvest [Re: Ora]
    #27426371 - 08/13/21 05:47 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

First, as people have said already, youre not suppose to feel a microdose. Its a sub-threshold dose. Also, if you want to feel something from it, I wouldnt advise slowly bringing the dose slightly higher each day, if thats what youre doing. Tolerance for psilocybin builds extremely fast. So if you dose daily, slowly upping the dose, and starting at a sub-threshold dose, I would imagine your body would keep pace by building tolerance, pretty much removing the possibility of even getting the "stoned effect". My advise would be wait a week and then take a gram, then see how you feel from the gram and adjust down from there. Also, I would do some more research on dosage effects, how psilocybin tolerance builds and choose a set regimen.


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