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Re: Automated Monotub [Re: Jask_eyez] 1
#27491518 - 10/03/21 09:23 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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This is the monthly “automated” monotub post. A standard of the shroomery.
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Stipe-n Cap


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I personally like how the bottom is blacked out, very helpful.
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Im too lazy to make my own automated monotone post, it would just be a picture of a thermostat and a timer. And maybe stacks of tubs.
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To truly automated that tub you will need a larger water reservoir so it can refill your humidifier. It has to be enough to last about a month. You can use timers or some sort of switch activated by low water in the humidifier. Don't forget the LED strips in the lid. Ambient light just won't do. Also timed of course. On the subject of humidity meters, dont waste your time with those cheepy ones. You want a nice one like this.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017NF1POE/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_BZ3S6RF0X24MB0DTR9GA
You will likely have to cut a small hole in the side of your box or lid and hot glue it in. But it will be sooo accurate.
Don't let any of these jerks tell you your box is too complex. You can keep adding and adding and adding and you will probably still get shrooms just like you would using a proven tek.
And if you ever tired of all that work or run out of money to buy useless nonsense, you can always just throw the shit an unaltered $1 shoebox box, shut the lid, and it will do the same fucking thing. Accept truly automatic. Because you don't have to go fuck with it.
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Re: Automated Monotub [Re: Domno] 1
#27499961 - 10/10/21 07:04 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Jeez.....
Again, a normal dialed in mono is already fully automated
When i make a mono i mix the sub, put the lid on, and dont touch it again for 12-16 days when i harvest a canopy. How much more automated can it get?
Meanwhile youll be fuckin w fans and water resivoirs etc, and will get way worse yields than anyone who knows how to dial in a standard monotub. So whats the point?
This is not automation, this is a rube goldberg machine
Dont confuse the fact that cubes want to grow so bad they will fruit no matter what you mess up with successful innovation
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Re: Automated Monotub [Re: c10h12n2o]
#27500189 - 10/10/21 10:21 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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c10h12n2o said: When i make a mono i mix the sub, put the lid on, and dont touch it again for 12-16 days when i harvest a canopy. How much more automated can it get?
Well since you asked, I'd absolutely love a tub that bottom watered, drained the reservoir to remove standing water, and reduced air humidity so the fruit wouldn't develop condensation on the caps, nor be wet where they touch the walls. Or it might be enough to start active air transfer whenever the tub humidity gets above 90%. In fact, the OP's device would suit the bill for the last part.
I tried a lot of hole/filter configurations to perfectly dial in tubs and was never able to eliminate wetness and the disease that piggybacked along with all those wet caps. It's funny that we collectively think monotubs are perfect despite the fact that they're so mediocre in humid environments. Yet the humidity always drops too low during subsequent flushes. Intrinsically automated, my ass.
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Lol it is intrinsically automated, you are just doing it wrong.
You are basically saying "they told me i could passively collect rain water by setting a bucket under the edge of my roof. Bullshit, ive had the bucket in my closet for 3 weeks and its bone dry. Im gonna automate this process by building a lithium chloride atmospheric water generator to extract water from the air via hygroscopic processes" meanwhile its raining outside
Why go to such extreme lengths to avoid learning how to grow? Especially when you still wont have results anywhere near as good as people who learn how to grow
blaming the lack of gizmos is just a cop out. The issue is your lack of experience/knowledge/technique, not lack of automation
Learn how to dial in a monotub. Its probably easier to dial in than whatever kind of contraption you are talking about, and much more automated.
What would even be the point of all that anyway? when i can pull 3/4 lb (12oz) dry off a single flush in a 54qt tub without doing anything but mixing up a sub and putting it on a shelf then harvesting 15 days later?
Im sorry but if you cant dial in a standard monotub you dont really stand a chance at trying to dial in an "automated mono," and even if you did the results would be no better (probably worse)
Doing more work for less results is not automation, its a rube goldberg machine
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Re: Automated Monotub [Re: c10h12n2o] 2
#27500346 - 10/11/21 03:32 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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This would be a major were it not fofr the egregious disrespect of our TCs who, not only have the knowledge vast experience brings, but spend precious time sharing that konwlege.
"Thanks for your opinion" Give me a fucking break! 
That is so "Have a nice day!" This is why n00bs get given shit sandwiches on which to dine. 
Luckily you are so knowledgable you won't need any of the expertise freely shared.
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Re: Automated Monotub [Re: SpaceBaby]
#27500349 - 10/11/21 03:41 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lol, I forgot bob started being a dick. I'm gonna unfollow this thread and stop taking his side.
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SpaceBaby
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gone-pear-shaped said: Lol, I forgot bob started being a dick. I'm gonna unfollow this thread and stop taking his side.
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Re: Automated Monotub [Re: SpaceBaby]
#27508112 - 10/17/21 03:21 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pardon the interruption, but I'd like to respectfully add an old lurker's opinion here.
OP's grow is interesting - congrats on the harvest and finding methods that work for you. Enjoying the hobby, choosing your techniques, and refining them is what this is all about. The grow you shared with us was a success, in my book.
That said, the other opinions shared here definitely have merit. As stated, the whole point of a monotub is that it requires basically no maintenance. I wouldn't have come up with the term "automated" for them on my own, but it is not inaccurate. OP's method works, obviously, but it does certainly add unnecessary intricacy, and I don't see how you could deny that.
Finally, I'd like to make it clear that I'm not taking sides here. OP is right to be proud, and pics and ideas are always welcome. The reason that others got a little prickly so quickly was that this isn't really the right subforum. And refusing to acknowledge that one of the easiest, lowest-maintenance methods is essentially already automated was not a great way to start here. The experts could certainly cut him a little slack, but posting something simple and unnecessary (I won't go so far as to say Goldberg-esque) under Advanced Mycology is definitely asking for it. Be humble and respectful if you want to be respected. So everybody can chill, as this thread seems to have run its course. Just my opinion, of course.
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Re: Automated Monotub [Re: Mepher]
#27508163 - 10/17/21 04:07 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lol @ this thread 
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Quote:
p9hu7 said:

WHERE IS HIS N95???
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bakedbeings
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here, bob. read this
just so you dont feel singled out it is very long tho
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p9hu7 said:
My starting water is 5000 grams and I want ~70% of that transfered into fruit which is 3500 wet grams, subtract 92% water weight (3500gr) to desication is: 280 dry grams, this is a good flush.
my safe prep at ~1gal oughta yield 8oz when clean, and often does, you dialed it in real nice! Gonna up my water witb these cleaner cultures.
Edited by Failboat (10/23/21 11:41 PM)
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Re: Automated Monotub [Re: Failboat]
#27518180 - 10/25/21 10:53 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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p9hu7 said: Lol @ this thread 

You makin fun of my picture bro? I'll have you know i got a whole 2g off that cake, you are just afraid of innovation 😤😤😤
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Re: Automated Monotub [Re: c10h12n2o]
#27518409 - 10/26/21 06:42 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm surprised this thread hasn't been locked yet.
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SpaceBaby
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weird, i thought bod locked it
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Re: Automated Monotub [Re: SpaceBaby]
#27536733 - 11/09/21 04:16 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Is that your fan on top? Where did you find that and what is the name of the fan. Thanks
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Re: Automated Monotub [Re: JGM]
#27536893 - 11/09/21 06:16 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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anddd its back
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