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Im developing my first leucistic *fixed. Shooting star. 1
#27414871 - 08/04/21 09:49 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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this is all from the same sporeswab, a non albino cube called shooting star. Im adding this note because made I made it confusing 1st time.
Im working on shooting star right now. This plate here was a first transfer from a spore plate. I got 2 swabs of shooting star from a friend and still have one unused.
It was too beautiful to ignore. So I made several transfers of this milky tomentose mycelium which ended up growing lucys

Right away I made a few jars as well as kept transferring.
This is about a month later (mid july) on a blue plate. It looks just like the first plate so im just showing the light angle so u can see the growth lines lol

So I goofed and pic is bad but this was first flush of non albino shooting star.(ignore text it was saved from my dms with someone)

So currently that thick tomentose mycelium is the one i made the most of. And this is the first one to be pinning (august)


Hard to get my camera to do it justice but the caps are doing something similar to ape where the caps seem like theyre bluish and gonna have difficulty opening and do that bottle cap thing. I will just have to wait and see.
Update: as they grow out they open up just fine and lose some of the waviness
The rhizo plates all made non albino. Here is some second flush action on that.

I dont know if this is advanced mycology but I was feeling arrogant enough to post. This is a new level for me anyways. My goal is to grow a few generations out and try to work on stabilizing it so i can sharesies.
Here is regular shooting star next to ass(albino ss)
Edited by Eatshroomsoften (08/10/21 01:46 PM)
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Re: Im developing my first albino. Shooting star. [Re: Eatshroomsoften]
#27414909 - 08/04/21 11:21 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Im developing my first albino. Shooting star. [Re: split_by_nine]
#27414923 - 08/05/21 12:01 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Looking forward to see how they turn out!!
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Re: Im developing my first albino. Shooting star. [Re: Mitch]
#27414935 - 08/05/21 12:37 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Appreciate the interest and by all means if anyone has any experience or links...
I plan to learn how to stabilize it so that the spores make white fruits consistently.
Ill keep the culture alive in the mean time, and also post a side by side of the 2 tubs fruiting next to each other, tomorrow or the next day
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Re: Im developing my first albino. Shooting star. [Re: Eatshroomsoften]
#27414946 - 08/05/21 01:29 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Cool! Is it an albino version of a well known variety?
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Re: Im developing my first albino. Shooting star. [Re: gone-pear-shaped]
#27416177 - 08/05/21 10:57 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Here is a copy paste its all I know about the original spores. And its possible this is something else and was stolen/renamed by the notorious keeper. (Scroll to bottom for copy pasted thing)
The part that says its a hybrid is bs of course.. But it seems to be similar in quality of high as golden teachers and some wavy caps are happening that seem to be stuck closed for now, just like this description says.
Here is a pic of the original grow that my friend gave me a swab of:

My pinset wasnt as thick as my friends lol but my results have still been fun so far


This is all i could find in an old thread as far as some kind of description and my buddy who gave me the swab says his results matched it pretty well. And the pic he sent me above looks pretty accurate too
"Psilocybe Cubensis: Shooting Stars
This strain of Psilocybe Cubensis is being sold by a company in Canada as a hybrid. And although we are unsure as to wether it is an actual hybrid between 2 different mushrooms, we know for sure that they are different than the mushroom spores that we currently carry. This Canada company is selling these spores for $45 plus shipping. We have been able to get these to you at a reasonable price.
What is different in this strain is that although they do not grow very large, they do grow in numbers, often wanting to spurt more mushrooms than its substrate and mycelium network can withtand at one time. The casings get often so packed with pinhead mushrooms that its hard to see the casing layer underneath. Its stems are small to medium sized and the caps are a bit darker brown caramel color than other cubensis strains and often develop wavy caps similar to that of the Psilocybe Cyanescens Species which is what makes them most unique. The veil tends to stay stuck to the cap and eventually rips like string cheese but never gets fully removed from its cap. A unique mushroom I must say."
Im taking it with a grain of salt... But like i said its all the info i really have.
Here is how my pigmented is doing..
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Edited by Eatshroomsoften (08/07/21 09:43 PM)
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Re: Im developing my first albino. Shooting star. [Re: Eatshroomsoften] 1
#27416287 - 08/06/21 01:31 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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So how are you developing your own albino? You're just growing out the spores.
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Re: Im developing my first albino. Shooting star. [Re: DERRAYLD]
#27416695 - 08/06/21 10:35 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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DERRAYLD said: So how are you developing your own albino? You're just growing out the spores.
I thought by developing your first albino you meant crossing something with another albino, or somehow turning them albino yourself.
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Re: Im developing my first albino. Shooting star. [Re: Mike Hawck]
#27416887 - 08/06/21 01:42 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think ive cleared some of the confusion thanks for pointing it out and sorry for being an ass.
I received a normal spore swab, isolated 3 different looking myceliums from it. By luck one seems to be leucistic (no pigment). All tubs from this thread came from same spore swab. I didnt receive albino spores...
And further more im not just guaranteed to get prints from these that produce leucistic fruits.
Its going to require growing multiple tubs from the next print and so on for generations and with months of patience. The end goal is to have leucistic fruits that make spores which carry on this recessive trait.
Albino shooting star isnt a print u can order. I am developing it, sending my buddy a print back, etc. Wish us luck
So this is the beginning of a several month project. Im not celebrating anything yet but excited still
Edit: my apologies I forgot to post a pic

Yes sir developing my first albino. The most meaningful thing happening in my life. Haters gonna hate
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Edited by Eatshroomsoften (08/07/21 09:46 PM)
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Re: Im developing my first albino. Shooting star. [Re: Eatshroomsoften]
#27416966 - 08/06/21 02:22 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think there was some confusion for me that was cleared up by your post. You said you were developing an albino, but really it's a leucistic. As far as I know, leucistic fruits have colored gills and spores and albinos have clear spores, and uncolored gills. Developing a true albino(like I thought you meant at the beginning) is hard, but not impossible, so that's why I asked the question before.
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Re: Im developing my first albino. Shooting star. [Re: Eatshroomsoften]
#27416971 - 08/06/21 02:27 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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And I thought we got confused because you called it "shooting star" rather than "albino shooting star" (ASS? ) or something. So it sounded like you just grew something you bought.
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Re: Im developing my first albino. Shooting star. [Re: gone-pear-shaped]
#27416985 - 08/06/21 02:36 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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A.s.s. I really like that lmao.
Today got about 7 prints from the leucistic tub, took 4 clones.
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Edited by Eatshroomsoften (08/07/21 09:49 PM)
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Re: Im developing my first albino. Shooting star. [Re: Eatshroomsoften]
#27420072 - 08/08/21 05:04 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Looks like you are most of the way to stable now. A good way to test is multispore straight to grain. Bypass the agar as that method narrows down the possibility ratio somewhat. If you can grow out consistently ms to grain through a few generations you're there. Otherwise, make a nice selection, clone, rinse, lather, repeat. She's a beauty BTW.
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Re: Im developing my first albino. Shooting star. [Re: the_chosen_one]
#27422706 - 08/10/21 01:54 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thank you 
I have some very sad news (to me) but its not exactly a bad thing. The clones are all fine and healthy. I was hoping it would continue the trend of that milky thick tomentose mycelium. But to my bittersweet surprise all 4 clones I took are deciding to be no doubt rhizomorphic now 

The tissue bruised veeery blue, and thats what you see in the middle basically. I need to get better at that
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Re: Im developing my first albino. Shooting star. [Re: the_chosen_one] 1
#27424624 - 08/11/21 08:25 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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the_chosen_one said: A good way to test is multispore straight to grain. Bypass the agar as that method narrows down the possibility ratio somewhat. If you can grow out consistently ms to grain through a few generations you're there.
If you're skipping the agar would doing PF tek be more consistent with contam rates?
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Re: Im developing my first albino. Shooting star. [Re: ADARKERSHADOW]
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the_chosen_one said: A good way to test is multi-spore straight to grain. Bypass the agar as that method narrows down the possibility ratio somewhat. If you can grow out consistently ms to grain through a few generations you're there.
If you're skipping the agar would doing PF tek be more consistent with contam rates?
Which ever tek works best for you. PF cakes are a great method for testing faster, being that it skips the spawning step. You can also get a lot of tests into a smaller space. The potential trouble with agar is less spores are typically used. Less spores, less potential genetic combinations. There's also the sectoring process on agar which will eliminate even more. When testing for stability you'll want to run as many tests with multi-spore direct as you can. Leucistic genes become stable somewhat easily. I don't expect a lot of trouble, but always keep back ups of the original just in case.
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Re: Im developing my first albino. Shooting star. [Re: the_chosen_one]
#27432597 - 08/18/21 01:22 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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8-17 update. Got 6 multispore jars made finally from the lead fruit cap. Plan to do 6 shoeboxes or a tub and 2 shoeboxes havent decided.
Did some transfers of the 2 clones and have 4 clone plates going.
The abundance of jars I inoculated originally with the mycelium which made the leucistic tub will all be spawned sometime this week it looks like.
 Thats most of it
With any luck it will all be leucistic haha. It wouldnt advance the project but would be exciting for me ill find out in a month or less hopefully.
I have a 5th transfer of the original mycelium still too. ill hold onto it for now.
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