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Re: The Official Poppy Growers Thread [Re: GenericHero]
    #28491354 - 10/03/23 06:54 PM (7 months, 11 days ago)

Has anybody grown giganthemum? Flower is pink and it has the size of a tennis ball. I've tried twice, but without any luck.

Grown other varieties like hungarian blue, black peony, and black swan without any issues.

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Re: The Official Poppy Growers Thread [Re: fungusul]
    #28491473 - 10/03/23 09:01 PM (7 months, 11 days ago)

Never. People think you get more latex out of em. I don't know if that's true


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Re: The Official Poppy Growers Thread [Re: GenericHero]
    #28493826 - 10/05/23 09:04 PM (7 months, 9 days ago)

Hey thanks GenericHero. I don't have a picture sorry. But! A ton of my new batch of seedlings sprouted, and even though a damn squirrel tore up some of the pots, I overseeded intentionally so some are going to make it.

My plan is to grow some out in containers, and then "guerilla" plant a tiny little patch somewhere. All I want is enough poppy pods to store up safely for actua medical emergencies like a kidney stone, or injury, ya know?

So my question is, will the deer eat them? I'd assume yes. So does anyone have any reccomendations for guirilla gardening a small area of poppies somewhere? I can't do it where I live at so that's not an option.

Thank you all. This thread is cool

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Re: The Official Poppy Growers Thread [Re: Rockman] * 1
    #28493883 - 10/05/23 09:31 PM (7 months, 9 days ago)

Hmmm. The chemicals in the plant might deter deer but I don't know for sure.

Look for areas where the dirt has been disturbed. Somewhere they are building a subdivision or something. There is a golf course in my city with a big dirt pile kind of hidden from view. I've been thinking about seeding it. I've seen somniferum at the local botanical gardens. They let people volunteer to take care of a plot in the park. The volunteer gets to pick what they put in the plot (with some exception. No mj or invasive plants). Maybe your city has something like that.

Careful with transplant. The root is pretty sensitive to damage. Best to sew them in their final location. I know it isn't always an option, but they will do much better if you can manage it.


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poppy sprouts getting beheaded [Re: GenericHero] * 1
    #28497477 - 10/09/23 10:38 AM (7 months, 5 days ago)

hello all.

I'm having a mysterious issue in one of my outdoor seedling beds (p. Somn).  I have overseeded this cleared veggie bed a few times now and something is constantly beheading my sprouts, leaving only tombstone stalks behind, and in some cases a tiny nubbin of unmunched cotyledons and leaves.

other beds nearby are growing like mad, carpetlike coverage and healthy as can be.

potential pests:
Argentine ants (my first line of offense, they love to harvest the seeds and store them away in big piles underground.  Overseeded and and added lure/traps to assist.  But I'm pretty sure they don't farm the leaves.

fungus gnats, can be seen floating around the soil, but I haven't witnessed them actually on the seedlings

Centipedes, abundant in my compost mix, but never witnessed the crime

a smallish housefly looking thing, maybe 1/2 size of black soldierfly, but doesn't seem to interact with seedlings

sparrows etc, but again, they don't seem to mess with the bed or I've never caught them

bunnies, they are out and about and we have a resident one, but there's no track signs in the bed and I've not witnessed it (I'm not a trapper though!)

squirrels, but no sign and they are too busy getting their nut

damping off? But honestly it looks like a pest. The stems are healthy and no sign of wilt

I assume the pest is very small since the adjacent seedlings and beheaded stalks are not trampled in any way

I would also think maybe slugs as we do have them, but i zero trails and no sign of them otherwise

I had a watermelon growing there before that was severely impacted by either fungus gnats or spider mites/aphids... Which could be a real threat I would imagine, but I don't see them anywhere with the naked eye.

I've applied de few times to no real avail.
I've read about using BTI for the gnats, and may give it a shot... But I'm out of ideas.

pics to show bad vs good bed

Thanks in advance



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Re: poppy sprouts getting beheaded [Re: jahfeelirie] * 5
    #28498422 - 10/10/23 03:10 AM (7 months, 5 days ago)


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Re: The Official Poppy Growers Thread [Re: fungusul]
    #28498424 - 10/10/23 03:11 AM (7 months, 5 days ago)

Quote:

fungusul said:
Has anybody grown giganthemum? Flower is pink and it has the size of a tennis ball. I've tried twice, but without any luck.

Grown other varieties like hungarian blue, black peony, and black swan without any issues.




Yes I've grown them many times in the past.
Not on the same level as Persian white, pretty low alkaloid level from my experience especially for the size of the pod.

Persian white has the same size pod but it just pours super active latex.

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Re: poppy sprouts getting beheaded [Re: jahfeelirie] * 2
    #28498572 - 10/10/23 08:26 AM (7 months, 4 days ago)

Quote:

jahfeelirie said:
hello all.

I'm having a mysterious issue in one of my outdoor seedling beds (p. Somn).  I have overseeded this cleared veggie bed a few times now and something is constantly beheading my sprouts, leaving only tombstone stalks behind, and in some cases a tiny nubbin of unmunched cotyledons and leaves.

other beds nearby are growing like mad, carpetlike coverage and healthy as can be.

potential pests:
Argentine ants (my first line of offense, they love to harvest the seeds and store them away in big piles underground.  Overseeded and and added lure/traps to assist.  But I'm pretty sure they don't farm the leaves.

fungus gnats, can be seen floating around the soil, but I haven't witnessed them actually on the seedlings

Centipedes, abundant in my compost mix, but never witnessed the crime

a smallish housefly looking thing, maybe 1/2 size of black soldierfly, but doesn't seem to interact with seedlings

sparrows etc, but again, they don't seem to mess with the bed or I've never caught them

bunnies, they are out and about and we have a resident one, but there's no track signs in the bed and I've not witnessed it (I'm not a trapper though!)

squirrels, but no sign and they are too busy getting their nut

damping off? But honestly it looks like a pest. The stems are healthy and no sign of wilt

I assume the pest is very small since the adjacent seedlings and beheaded stalks are not trampled in any way

I would also think maybe slugs as we do have them, but i zero trails and no sign of them otherwise

I had a watermelon growing there before that was severely impacted by either fungus gnats or spider mites/aphids... Which could be a real threat I would imagine, but I don't see them anywhere with the naked eye.

I've applied de few times to no real avail.
I've read about using BTI for the gnats, and may give it a shot... But I'm out of ideas.

pics to show bad vs good bed

Thanks in advance







Slugs like to munch.


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Re: poppy sprouts getting beheaded [Re: GenericHero]
    #28505318 - 10/15/23 10:02 AM (6 months, 30 days ago)

Cheers.  I'm pretty sure not slugs now
I've been watching those birds and the little peckers seem to be chomping.  Easy fix though, wire mesh should take care of it


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Re: poppy sprouts getting beheaded [Re: jahfeelirie] * 1
    #28505522 - 10/15/23 01:03 PM (6 months, 30 days ago)

Make sure you have some distance between the mesh and the seedlings. Birds were sitting on my mesh and trying to nosh. It did stop the chipmunks.

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Re: The Official Poppy Growers Thread [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #28511011 - 10/19/23 07:52 PM (6 months, 26 days ago)

Quote:

DERRAYLD said:
Quote:

fungusul said:
Has anybody grown giganthemum? Flower is pink and it has the size of a tennis ball. I've tried twice, but without any luck.

Grown other varieties like hungarian blue, black peony, and black swan without any issues.




Yes I've grown them many times in the past.
Not on the same level as Persian white, pretty low alkaloid level from my experience especially for the size of the pod.

Persian white has the same size pod but it just pours super active latex.




Thank you Derrayld! I've been trying to grow them just for their beauty and maybe use the seeds for some baking.

Do they have any special requirements? I usually sow seeds straight on land, cover with a fine layer of peatmoss, and keep them moist for the next two weeks. Usually I do this in March, but this year, I'll try in November to winter them.

I would like to grow some persian white but none of the local stores sell them.

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Re: The Official Poppy Growers Thread [Re: fungusul] * 1
    #28511035 - 10/19/23 08:03 PM (6 months, 26 days ago)

Goto world seed supply website


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Re: The Official Poppy Growers Thread [Re: rumfor69]
    #28512276 - 10/20/23 07:23 PM (6 months, 25 days ago)

Thanks. I'll check that website.

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Re: The Official Poppy Growers Thread [Re: Nickoloxious] * 2
    #28514211 - 10/22/23 01:46 PM (6 months, 23 days ago)



This year I grew several beautiful poppies.

One of them, Frank Morton's After Midnight, had a specimen with only a single wraparound petal. Many of this variety had 2-3 petals, rather than the usual 4! After Midnight is quite interesting in that regard.

In the image you can see the specimen with a single large petal.

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Re: The Official Poppy Growers Thread [Re: Nillion]
    #28514297 - 10/22/23 02:36 PM (6 months, 23 days ago)

Neat


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Re: The Official Poppy Growers Thread [Re: fungusul]
    #28514502 - 10/22/23 05:44 PM (6 months, 23 days ago)

Quote:

fungusul said:
Has anybody grown giganthemum? Flower is pink and it has the size of a tennis ball. I've tried twice, but without any luck.

Grown other varieties like hungarian blue, black peony, and black swan without any issues.



I have grown giant poppies. I only grew two of them but they were beautiful. I harvested the pods before they got tennis ball sized.

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Re: The Official Poppy Growers Thread [Re: Nickoloxious] * 3
    #28520101 - 10/27/23 12:37 PM (6 months, 18 days ago)

A few more interesting flowers from the garden this summer.

This 3 petal form showed up a bit in the population of Amphora:



This 6 petal form may be half P. bracteatum, which I used to pollinate several normal breadseed type somnis the year before:


I've been making and growing a number of P rhoeas X P. somni hybrids as well over the last few years, though they are not particularly interesting.

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Re: The Official Poppy Growers Thread [Re: Nillion] * 1
    #28529966 - 11/05/23 06:54 AM (6 months, 9 days ago)

First time I try sowing them in autumn. Let's hope they will make it through winter. My plan is to keep the most beautiful seedling in each container and plant the whole thing in spring with optimum spacing.

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Re: The Official Poppy Growers Thread [Re: Argyreia]
    #28530328 - 11/05/23 09:53 AM (6 months, 9 days ago)

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Argyreia said:
First time I try sowing them in autumn. Let's hope they will make it through winter. My plan is to keep the most beautiful seedling in each container and plant the whole thing in spring with optimum spacing.





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Re: The Official Poppy Growers Thread [Re: MadMuncher] * 2
    #28531099 - 11/05/23 07:49 PM (6 months, 9 days ago)


Thank you so much for that knowledge that multiple pods are a good thing as i venture into poppy domain. My first blossom has been achieved and just like cannabis i stumbled and got better.
Hello everyone im mudballs, advocate of natural medicines and cannabis grower just getting into poppies. Looks like i have hungarian breadseed variant as my first go. Funny story how i got started...literally poured lemon poppy seed muffin mix into some soil and germinated some to see what I'd get.

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