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Stromrider
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On the origins of penis envy 6
#27399588 - 07/23/21 07:06 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's a deep dive history of penis envy and more broadly a history of Psilocybe mushroom cultivation. I think it's a patreon only but this link will get you around it
https://gofile.io/d/HEuB5J
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CocaineBuffet
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Re: On the origins of penis envy [Re: Stromrider]
#27399603 - 07/23/21 07:22 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Gonna check this out! Thank you.
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Nimpo
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Does this mention the dude who was found murdered/assassinated and allegedly had a PE mush in his pocket?
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Ashtray161
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Re: On the origins of penis envy [Re: Nimpo]
#27399618 - 07/23/21 07:36 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nimpo said: Does this mention the dude who was found murdered/assassinated and allegedly had a PE mush in his pocket?
Is this a joke? XD
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Stromrider
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Re: On the origins of penis envy [Re: Ashtray161]
#27399671 - 07/23/21 08:39 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think he got his urban legends mixed up. Probably talking about Steven Pollock
The guy interviewed in this is pretty nutty but it's certainly interesting
Edited by Stromrider (07/23/21 08:41 PM)
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Re: On the origins of penis envy [Re: Stromrider]
#27399678 - 07/23/21 08:47 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Stromrider said: It's a deep dive history of penis envy and more broadly a history of Psilocybe mushroom cultivation. I think it's a patreon only but this link will get you around it
https://gofile.io/d/HEuB5J
woah its Hamilton lol
Its funny to hear him talking about us and our sayings like "a cube is a cube, except PE"
So this guy is a big deal apparently? John Allen aka Mushroom John/Mjshroomer? https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showprofile.php?User=1703 I wonder why hes banned. Sounds like he lied to Hamilton lol
I eat shit like this up. I love this type of information. It just shows how far this site and a couple others contributed to the mushroom culture we have today. In just 50, 60 years the people who pioneered this shit got it spread ALL OVER THE WORLD. What a fucking trip man. Theres still people on this forum that were alive before shrooms were even known about in the US.
And Hamilton shows hes Hamilton. 12:45 or so "Like look at the Uncle Bens tek that shows that growing mushrooms can be even easier!" Nooooooooooooo! Why do you betray us like this Hamilton!
Edited by Ashtray161 (07/23/21 09:02 PM)
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Re: On the origins of penis envy [Re: Stromrider]
#27399697 - 07/23/21 09:03 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Stromrider said: I think he got his urban legends mixed up. Probably talking about Steven Pollock
The guy interviewed in this is pretty nutty but it's certainly interesting
Im so curious about all these cats. All the unnamed heros that made this shit possible for us
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Re: On the origins of penis envy [Re: Stromrider]
#27399700 - 07/23/21 09:06 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Stromrider said:
The guy interviewed in this is pretty nutty but it's certainly interesting
EDIT: Im starting to see I prolly shouldnt bring attention to that...
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Re: On the origins of penis envy [Re: Ashtray161]
#27399783 - 07/23/21 10:41 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you read mjshroomer ratings, it explains a lot. I semi remember the drama but I’m not gonna get into it.
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arpeggiator
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Re: On the origins of penis envy [Re: B H O]
#27399787 - 07/23/21 10:55 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks, gonna give is a listen! I love Hamilton Morris.
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Re: On the origins of penis envy [Re: arpeggiator]
#27400012 - 07/24/21 07:31 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Listening now. I believe this is the actual guy.
Couple early takeaways
- PE 12-15” tall with manure substrate. (Anybody here ???) - regularly harvesting literally hundreds of pounds of wild P. Cyanescens in a well known Seattle park in the late 70’s early 80’s. All gone now.
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Re: On the origins of penis envy [Re: Stromrider] 1
#27400085 - 07/24/21 09:02 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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For clarity the interview subject is Richard Gutierrez.
Not Crazy. Difficult life, different perspectives, quite sane.
He comments on his relationships with Mushroom John (annoying loud egocentric narcissist, they were partnered and travelled extensively in the early days before MJ betrayed him), Steven Pollack, Terrence McKenna (never met), and Paul Stamets (Stamets was 19, he mentions Gutierrez from time to time).
It seems quite obvious Rich Gee is the og shroomer and the true father of PE.
Edited by DharmaForKarma (07/24/21 09:29 AM)
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Super fucking cool. thank you.
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Re: On the origins of penis envy [Re: anatomality]
#27400326 - 07/24/21 12:44 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mushroom John eh... shroomery drama you can even look up now.
Man, such a cool ass podcast.
I want to be a part of something like this one day. Inadvertently shaping history by following his interests.
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Re: On the origins of penis envy [Re: anatomality] 1
#27400389 - 07/24/21 01:48 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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anatomality said: Mushroom John eh... shroomery drama you can even look up now.
Man, such a cool ass podcast.
I want to be a part of something like this one day. Inadvertently shaping history by following his interests.
Relatable. I hope ppl care about my hobbies one day lol
I wonder if these folx even realize what a difference they really made in the world. Imagine if we lived in a world where u couldnt just search up answers to all our questions and just having to figure it out with nothing but a dirty spore prints and some basic schooling
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Re: On the origins of penis envy [Re: Ashtray161] 1
#27400468 - 07/24/21 02:46 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks, I hope that's a great one. I have been a fan of Hamilton's since he was looking for zombie powder. I will give it a listen and consider subscribing to his podcast.
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Re: On the origins of penis envy [Re: LittleBoard]
#27400517 - 07/24/21 03:22 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Ron Burgundy Podcast is where it's at.
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Re: On the origins of penis envy [Re: Failboat]
#27400550 - 07/24/21 03:50 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thank you for sharing this interview!
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Re: On the origins of penis envy [Re: smoorhSvuLI]
#27400555 - 07/24/21 03:56 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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*Pulls mushrooms out of bag* does anyone have penis envy? And the name was created.
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Re: On the origins of penis envy [Re: Ashtray161] 1
#27400700 - 07/24/21 06:13 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ashtray161 said: I wonder if these folx even realize what a difference they really made in the world.
A good quarter of the interview is exactly this. Worth a listen.
It’s clear to both where and how and when it all began but RG and Hamilton are not aligned. There was literally no one else in the world working with mycology like RG. The interviewer believes RG’s work and accomplishments must be documented and memorialized for posterity as fundamental history of an important worldwide revolution. RG says, and may even believe, that he couldn’t care less if he is remembered.
And the story of RG and MJ wander-hunting for wild mushrooms with a third guy, a crazy high guy, the taster. Taste it, don’t die, all good.
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