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Offlinebay_a_boy
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Shroom tincture isn’t kicking! What did I do wrong?!
    #27386623 - 07/13/21 09:52 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Shroom tincture isn’t kicking!  What did I do wrong?!

I soaked 25 grams in on about 150ml of alcohol 75.5% for about 6 weeks. Then I double extracted with water about 100 ml of boiled water for the 25 grams.  Did that water extract 2x.  (The did a third time but drank it but not trip)

The final solution is about 240ml of amber liquid with a dark slime sediment that sits on bottom.  10ml should equal ~1 gram.




(In the right light it’s even blue!!-ish)

I had 10 ml of top amber liquid mixed with OJ. No noticeable effects
26 hours later I had 20ml  (I think I mixed the sediment in the bottom) with OJ. NO EFFECTS!

Tomorrow, 4 days later, I am going to try 30ml sludge and amber liquid.  And hopefully I get something

Anything else I can do?!
Did I waste my 25 gram harvest?

Edited by bay_a_boy (07/13/21 10:02 PM)

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Re: Shroom tincture isn’t kicking! What did I do wrong?! [Re: bay_a_boy] * 1
    #27386642 - 07/13/21 10:11 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I am not a scientist or anything but I am pretty sure actives degrade pretty quickly when in contact with water. This is why a lot of tinctures call for ethanol spirits such as Everclear or something near 95%+. There is also debate over the temp limits for actives but could have degraded or lost potency during boiling? I am almost sure that most of the degradation comes from oxygenated water content either in the soaking phase in ethanol or in the double extraction phase when you move it to water. I have been researching all over the internet for more info as I am looking to do a tincture myself but it is hard to tell. I would work it next time from the lowest water content ethanol you can buy at your local shop to see what happens. Deoxygenate your water as well by boiling it for a while & then bring the temps down to see if the heat/oxygenated water might have caused any issues. Let me know, I am open to hearing anything that works so I can put it into practice!

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Re: Shroom tincture isn’t kicking! What did I do wrong?! [Re: tomtheshroomman]
    #27386862 - 07/14/21 06:35 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

From the research I did ,  they said 75% alcohol is preferred because it is better extracted in presence of water.  (I did shake vigorously for a couple days till I read not to do that, maybe introduced to much oxygen). And the water I used was boiled, but not cooled down. 

Idk but oxygen would make it less potent but I don’t think 0%. I think heat was the issue

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Re: Shroom tincture isn’t kicking! What did I do wrong?! [Re: bay_a_boy]
    #27386913 - 07/14/21 07:30 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Update:  Consumed 30ml in a straight shot. Should be equivalent to 3 grams.  😞. 

Effects:  Nada. Zip. Me no go high. 

Going to drink the other 180ml next.

So sad!  wish I kept some dry.

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Re: Shroom tincture isn’t kicking! What did I do wrong?! [Re: bay_a_boy] * 1
    #27386933 - 07/14/21 07:54 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah I been trying to warn people as well "blue juice " is not active !!
Here's my question.. why do this?
They are mushrooms, dried to the size of tiny broken twigs they're strong enough to get you, and orally active. Portable, good shelf life..
Not saying science is bad but good luck fighting god on this one.


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Re: Shroom tincture isn’t kicking! What did I do wrong?! [Re: tututotutut]
    #27395325 - 07/20/21 03:31 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

The alkaloids are water soluble, you need to make tea, not tincture.

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Re: Shroom tincture isn’t kicking! What did I do wrong?! [Re: Failboat]
    #27397398 - 07/22/21 01:18 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks!  I wanted to fly with it so I thought tincture would be best. And I was also worried that the shrooms would mold or ruin (even though they were cracker dry).  Next time I will just keep my harvest in it’s true and all powerful form 🍄

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Re: Shroom tincture isn’t kicking! What did I do wrong?! [Re: bay_a_boy]
    #27414426 - 08/04/21 03:35 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I had same situation.
Few days ago I tried just boiling 40g of decent shrooms in 1L of water + added some ascorbic acid (vitamin C) just making a tea. I filtered that and put back shrooms to another 200ml of water and boil again + filter again. I had in total 1.2L of Shrooms tea.
I evaporated water from 1,2L to 250 ml, and I made Jelly bears with that :smile: Final effect is pretty cool - you eat a jelly, you dont have any stomach discomfort and you can fly with them :smile: im pretty sure that just the tea would work also alone :crazy2:


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Re: Shroom tincture isn’t kicking! What did I do wrong?! [Re: patapon333]
    #27433472 - 08/18/21 06:29 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Psilocybin when extracted is prone to oxidation with light. You might have destroyed it as you made it.

You can definitely boil in ethanol and reduce to a tincture.
Keep it cold and very dark after.

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Re: Shroom tincture isn’t kicking! What did I do wrong?! [Re: bay_a_boy]
    #27434877 - 08/19/21 05:04 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Did you hard boil the water?  Did you start with dried or wet?


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Re: Shroom tincture isn’t kicking! What did I do wrong?! [Re: simonjester44]
    #27440971 - 08/24/21 12:21 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

They were dried and it was never brought to hard boil.

I still have it. I’m going to take some again and see if anything happens.

I did shake it vigourly when it was in alcohol for 4 weeks. That might have brought in air

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Re: Shroom tincture isn’t kicking! What did I do wrong?! [Re: bay_a_boy]
    #27441213 - 08/24/21 03:23 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

If one wants to have an alcohol solution for the pharmacological effect then I would boil, strain, and add alcohol to bring it to like 40% then keep it in a dark freezer.

You could just take a shot of vodka with your tea :shrug:

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