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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: koods] * 2
    #27380612 - 07/09/21 01:52 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Sure some will die in spite of treatment, but treating them and having them die anyway isn't "letting them die". Neither is "allowing" people to make other unhealthy choices but doing your best to treat resulting cancer or heart disease or whatever. Letting them suffer and die would be doing nothing to help. Doing what you can to help them without constraining their freedom to make their own choices is not "letting them die", though some will of course still die in spite of treatment.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: psi] * 1
    #27380637 - 07/09/21 02:13 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

You have the freedom to make the choice of running people over with your car. There's just consequences for doing it.
How is a vaccine any different.

Everyone that is pro-life that's against the vaccine is a hypocrite and well stupid too.

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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: koods] * 8
    #27380670 - 07/09/21 02:34 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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By allowing people to choose to not get vaccinated you are letting people die who would not die otherwise.



No. That is letting people decide for themselves what reasonable risk is. It is out of your hands. Your assumption is that you can control people, and should. His is that you shouldn't. Because free will. Your ideal of what is right is as fluid as anyone else's idea of it. You are not superior, you think you are superior. That is why you assume you have some advantage, by way of your opinion, that gives you the right to impose. People are supposed to be equals, the government is supposed to work for the people. Your idea of a government is power. Our idea of governmwnt is public service. You have always been this way, and people have always called you out on it. You're an SJW who watches too much TV, and has spent too much time with people that also think they're better than others.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: larry.fisherman] * 1
    #27380681 - 07/09/21 02:43 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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No. That is letting people decide for themselves what reasonable risk is. It is out of your hands.




It’s not. The vaccines could be mandated. We are choosing not to. Therefore, we are allowing deaths to occur that could be prevented.

I’m done trying to explain this very simple statement.

It makes no sense why were aren’t mandating it. We mandate so many vaccines. Leaders need to step up.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: koods] * 2
    #27380701 - 07/09/21 02:53 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I imagine that, after the FDA has approved it, it will be given the same status as an MMR vaccine. Meaning it will be required before attending public school., assuming it is FDA approved for school age children. As far as I know, there are no vaccines mandatory for U.S. citizens who are not attending a public school, in the military, or employed in healthcare.

When this happens, I'm sure it will be a huge boon for the private school and homeschool industry when millions of kids are removed from public school by their parents..


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: koods]
    #27380705 - 07/09/21 02:55 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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It makes no sense why were aren’t mandating it. We mandate so many vaccines. Leaders need to step up.



It makes sense to require it to attend schools and so on. Requiring it just to exist in the country can't be enforced without totalitarian tactics and would almost certainly result in bloodshed.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: koods] * 1
    #27380714 - 07/09/21 02:58 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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No. That is letting people decide for themselves what reasonable risk is. It is out of your hands. Your assumption is that you can control people, and should. His is that you shouldn't. Because free will. Y




When it comes to vaccines, this country has mandated their use for 250 years when necessary. All 50 states mandate vaccines as regular public policy. The Supreme Court ruled over a hundred years ago that the government can mandate vaccines and fine or punish those who refuse. It’s settled law and good policy. It’s negligent to allow 200+ deaths a day when we could implement a public health mandate that would prevent nearly every one of them.

You are free to argue that we shouldn’t mandate the vaccine, but you should acknowledge that by not mandating the vaccine you have chosen to not to prevent preventable deaths.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Asante]
    #27380716 - 07/09/21 03:00 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

"SC Governor tells Biden no "door to door" harassment in SC"



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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: psi] * 1
    #27380719 - 07/09/21 03:02 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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It makes no sense why were aren’t mandating it. We mandate so many vaccines. Leaders need to step up.



It makes sense to require it to attend schools and so on. Requiring it just to exist in the country can't be enforced without totalitarian tactics and would almost certainly result in bloodshed.




Not exist. But you should need to be in public. People need to grow the fuck up.

The school mandate is far more compulsory. You need vaccines to go to school and all children must attend school by law.

Smallpox vaccines have been mandated for the entire population numerous times in American history.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: koods] * 1
    #27380721 - 07/09/21 03:05 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Ok, yeah that's more reasonable than what I thought you were arguing. Trying to mandate it for the entire population today would go over about as well as trying to go around seizing everyone's guns.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: koods]
    #27380736 - 07/09/21 03:13 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Don't open that door!



Oh Lawd, they comin'!




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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #27380766 - 07/09/21 03:36 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

The pandemic probably saved the lives of many census takers last year cause they mostly canvased by phone and not door by door


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: koods]
    #27380772 - 07/09/21 03:45 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Lotta Fuzzy Lumpkins out there.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #27380888 - 07/09/21 05:18 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

people die from the vaccine too. mandating shit that kills people should for sure not be on the table. How many people now, thousands? Tens of thousands have died from the vaccine? And how many people beyond those that reported symptoms dont report the symptoms that occur as a result of their taking it. How many people have inflamed hearts and dont know it? When will their body respond with a similar reaction in the future to what it perceives as a viable threat?

https://www.freep.com/story/news/2021/07/02/jacob-clynick-pfizer-covid-vaccine/5323095001/


If people want to push a potentially lethal drug on people thats their thing I guess. I stand by the argument that human beings have the right to decide what they put in their bodies without the coercive pressures of the media, government, and pharma companies. If you are vaccinated great - let all the people who arent vaccinated have decided to go with natural immunity deal with it their way.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: koods]
    #27380889 - 07/09/21 05:18 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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How about being intellectually honest here



If you want to talk about intellectual honesty then tell me why you are so focused on this cause and no other?

I have not once seen you arguing or fighting for anything regarding the safety of others before this (aside of the stupid gun debate, which is a total lost cause), yet over the past weeks I have seen you multiple times make statements alluding to the fact that you think anyone who doesn't follow what you have decided is right should be punished by suffering and death.

So let's be intellectually honest. I've already told you my truth; suffering and death is happening constantly, and I would like to stop it but I can't. I also would never wish harm on anyone.

What is your truth? What makes you think you are right in proposing that people deserve harm because they decide against following your decision?


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: ManianFH]
    #27380891 - 07/09/21 05:19 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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I stand by the argument that human beings have the right to decide what they put in their bodies



Here here. This is a cause I would fight and die for without a second thought.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Delta Wave 2021) [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #27380929 - 07/09/21 05:49 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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I stand by the argument that human beings have the right to decide what they put in their bodies



Here here. This is a cause I would fight and die for without a second thought.




Same. Its one of the reasons I joined this site a hundred years ago. With all that being said, I am not anti vaccine... just pro choice.


Will give a shout out to Biden (something I never thought I would say...) after pushing for a release of patent rights on the vaccines. If the pharma giants would have gone for that as well, I might have had a little more respect for this whole push the envelope thing.. But as it stands now it is coveted by countries who cant get it because pharma fought tooth and nail to preserve their bottom line. Ultra humanity fail, but my expectations are tempered these days anyways...


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    #27380951 - 07/09/21 06:10 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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that being said, I am not anti vaccine... just pro choice.








Same. I got vaccinated. But I'm not going to get mad at someone who isn't or hasn't. I'm not going to judge them and condemn them. Their life, their body, their choice. I don't worry about other people like that. I don't worry about stuff I can't control. If you're going to be angry about people not doing what you think they should be doing then you're going to be angry the rest of your life. There's 7 and a half billion human beings on this earth and hate to break it to ya but lots and lots and lots of those 7.5 billion are not going to be like you or agree and believe the shit you believe. So you can accept that, understand that and move on or you can be mad & resentful at half the human population out there. I choose to move on. I'm not just talking the vaccine, either. I mean when it comes to anything & everything.


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    #27380956 - 07/09/21 06:13 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I'm judging all of you but not for any particular reason.

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    #27380963 - 07/09/21 06:20 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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