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Psychedelics and being LESS in tune with others
    #27345104 - 06/12/21 03:24 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I've heard many people express that they may often feel more in tune with others and how they're feeling while on psychedelics, but in my experience with the friends I've tripped with so far, I feel like they're actually WORSE at empathizing while on psychedelics?

For instance, It becomes much harder to get a word in edgewise with them and they become kinda inconsiderate. Like sometimes when I say somethin that's like, bizzare in a trippy but pretty benign way, they'll look at me as if I just said that strange thing while stone cold sober, but then they turn around and say something equally strange themselves and seemingly don't even realize or care that it is. Doesn't feel great.

I guess what I'm saying is I feel less understood by and connected to the friends I've tripped with before and that's a bit sad :/ though I only tripped with a few friends before (I usually do it alone), so there's that.

Anyone else experience being less understood and empathized with by friends you've tripped with?

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Re: Psychedelics and being LESS in tune with others [Re: Chorb]
    #27345124 - 06/12/21 04:14 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

find better friends :laugh: i've experienced similar situations before but the shared in-tune moments always outweighed the strange ones. this shouldn't be an issue with friends you can trust to your core.


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Re: Psychedelics and being LESS in tune with others [Re: epilectric] * 3
    #27345128 - 06/12/21 04:22 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I think it's situational.

eg.
people carrying baggage (obsessing about some problems) are still doing so during your (and their) trips.
as adults this is normal,
you have to be able to let go and fall into wonder,
there is plenty to be amazed at, including how obsessed people become.

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Re: Psychedelics and being LESS in tune with others [Re: redgreenvines] * 2
    #27345131 - 06/12/21 04:34 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

yes, don't take the strange moments too seriously and focus on the good stuff

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redgreenvines said:
I think it's situational.

eg.
people carrying baggage (obsessing about some problems) are still doing so during your (and their) trips.
as adults this is normal,
you have to be able to let go and fall into wonder,
there is plenty to be amazed at, including how obsessed people become.

see the world through the eyes of a child




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Re: Psychedelics and being LESS in tune with others [Re: epilectric]
    #27346923 - 06/13/21 03:13 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I suppose it just takes a bit of work to allow oneself to be all wet n wild around others. I'll keep working on embracin the weird and not bein all self-conscious while tripping w peeps. :smirk: If it keeps being a prob I can always try talkin to them about it before the next trip so we can make sure we're all comfortable and understandin before we start

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Re: Psychedelics and being LESS in tune with others [Re: Chorb]
    #27347169 - 06/13/21 07:26 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

promises ensure very little with psychedelic drugs - at that point conditioned responses kick in; habits are dependable, not promises.


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Re: Psychedelics and being LESS in tune with others [Re: Chorb]
    #27465664 - 09/12/21 02:10 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Honestly, after some more recent events and reflection, those friends were just shitty and self-absorbed, and have a lot of work to do before they can really be considerate friends. And I think psychedelics just really helped me see, and brought out, their true colors.
I was just in denial about it.
Oh well, I've cut them off after some particularly flagrant disregard for my wellbeing on their part.

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Re: Psychedelics and being LESS in tune with others [Re: Chorb] * 2
    #27466075 - 09/12/21 08:15 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Nothing wrong with casting out false prophets, just try to be classy about it.


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