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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #27343443 - 06/10/21 05:50 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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Ape swabs have been known to throw reverts regardless of who it's from. I'd go get a syringe.




hey mush but what'd be the difference about reverts with using a syringe rather than just doing the typical a2g and then g2g and use it?




Nah, use a syringe for the genetics not swabs if you want a 100% guarantee ape. Most swabbed ape I've grown has reverted it's got nothing to do with method of inoculation.




Oh shit, hold on a sec. I'm like 8 transfers in with this APE. My understanding is failing a little bit today, so excuse my stupid question haha but just to be clear, you suggest to start over from the swab making a syringe out of it, like following fahtster method rinsing down the spores and then pulling it with to a syringe? Or could I just throw this agar to a LC and then syringe?
Please tell me all this effort on agar wasn't in vain :lol::lol:

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gabbk]
    #27343449 - 06/10/21 05:56 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Nah I think he means starting with a spore syringe from the beginning, not making a syringe out of the swab. Might be because APE was created by someone at Sporeworks and they only sell APE in syringe form? I am curious why the swabs are so prone to reverts though.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gabbk]
    #27343450 - 06/10/21 05:58 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Why are you transferring so far gabbk? I usually only go to about T3 after spores just to get a clean culture then fruit it and take a clone to get the genetics I want.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27343455 - 06/10/21 06:00 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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Does anybody know why swabs would revert?

I remember a whole thread about ape swab reverts but never actually thought why it would be different than a syringe.




I think it's not stabile genetics so workmans secret sauce of breeding is the only sure way.



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PitcherCrab]
    #27343478 - 06/10/21 06:30 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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Why are you transferring so far gabbk? I usually only go to about T3 after spores just to get a clean culture then fruit it and take a clone to get the genetics I want.




Yeah Crab I have no good reason really hahaha, it's just that personally to me I have real troubles distinguishing good tomatose from mold, so I try to stay on the rhyzo side.
I went to see the plate, my bad, wasn't T8 but 6.

Crab do you personally do syringe for APEs or regular g2a, G2G and fruit?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gabbk]
    #27343487 - 06/10/21 06:38 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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Ape swabs have been known to throw reverts regardless of who it's from. I'd go get a syringe.




hey mush but what'd be the difference about reverts with using a syringe rather than just doing the typical a2g and then g2g and use it?




Nah, use a syringe for the genetics not swabs if you want a 100% guarantee ape. Most swabbed ape I've grown has reverted it's got nothing to do with method of inoculation.




Oh shit, hold on a sec. I'm like 8 transfers in with this APE. My understanding is failing a little bit today, so excuse my stupid question haha but just to be clear, you suggest to start over from the swab making a syringe out of it, like following fahtster method rinsing down the spores and then pulling it with to a syringe? Or could I just throw this agar to a LC and then syringe?
Please tell me all this effort on agar wasn't in vain :lol::lol:




No. I mean go buy a syringe. Like a vender issued 100% v1.0 syringe. No swabs.

Swabs run the risks of reverts even ones I've taken myself from legit ape and ones given to me by another TC. Swabs can revert. If you want to always know you'll grow out ape use the original syringe

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gabbk]
    #27343488 - 06/10/21 06:38 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I've never grown APE, so I can't properly answer that. However if I were going to I'd grow from swabs as that's what I've got. :grin: If I was having a hard time getting the pheno I wanted I might consider going in for a syringe, but only after giving it a real try with the swabs.

You've got some good looking sectors on those plates...


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #27343495 - 06/10/21 06:45 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

:blah:or a trusted clone

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PitcherCrab]
    #27343497 - 06/10/21 06:45 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, I swabbed and passed out several sets of APE. The people I heard back from were about 50/50 on if they got APE or reverts.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #27343508 - 06/10/21 06:51 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I've never grown APE, so I can't properly answer that. However if I were going to I'd grow from a swab as that's what I've got. :grin: I don't typically buy from vendors as I can find anything I want through trading. If that means a higher chance of reverts I'm okay rolling those dice.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PitcherCrab]
    #27343525 - 06/10/21 07:08 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I haven't gotten even germination from APE swabs so far, let alone reverts.  May have to bite that bullet. :themoreyouknow:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #27343539 - 06/10/21 07:16 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Would it be a dumb to use my flowhood to bring in outside fresh air to my grow space? It don’t get too much air flow to the lab and  I keep my flowhood on 24/7 anyways to help a lil with the air flow so why not bring in outside air?

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #27343549 - 06/10/21 07:23 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Oh thanks you all guys for your time.. much more clear now.
i'll fight it till the end haha ill try using each one of the good sectors individually and see if it fruits something. if not, start again once more from spores. and if it doesn't turn anything then i'll buy a syringe :lol: (and pray it gets trough.. why do I live in the ass of the world? freaking customs!!!)


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Culliganman360]
    #27343553 - 06/10/21 07:26 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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Would it be a dumb to use my flowhood to bring in outside fresh air to my grow space? It don’t get too much air flow to the lab and  I keep my flowhood on 24/7 anyways to help a lil with the air flow so why not bring in outside air?




Yes. You're going to clog up your filter/prefilter way faster that way. Get a fan to bring in outside air.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Culliganman360]
    #27343555 - 06/10/21 07:27 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #27343588 - 06/10/21 07:58 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I have given away many APE swabs but I cant recall any user following back up with me having an issue or vise versa :shrug:

So there is an anecdotal unhelpful first hand experience for everyone :lol:

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #27343685 - 06/10/21 09:48 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Cocaine, the APE swab you sent me grew these.



I just call them APER.

They're cool but i'm still hoping for actual APE at some point.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #27343703 - 06/10/21 10:06 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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Whack it good now. :cookiemonster:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #27343724 - 06/10/21 10:50 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Well yesterday i shook it up a bunch and put a drop on each of three plates but i dnt thnk there is actually any spores on the plates.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #27343731 - 06/10/21 11:00 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Just be patient. Give it at least 7 days before you give up on those germ plates. Sometimes it can take up to 10 days. Remember, spores are microscopic. So you won't necessarily see them.

Edited by BrownBear (06/10/21 11:01 PM)

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