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[CA] SFPD's fentanyl bust: 'Enough lethal overdoses to wipe out San Francisco's population four times over"
    #27342261 - 06/10/21 12:12 AM (3 days, 7 hours ago)

SFPD's fentanyl bust: 'Enough lethal overdoses to wipe out San Francisco's population four times over"
June 9, 2021 - San Francisco Chronicle

San Francisco police arrested five men and seized 16 pounds of fentanyl — enough to kill the city’s population four times over — in a narcotics operation in Oakland meant to block deadly drugs from entering the city’s Tenderloin neighborhood, authorities said Tuesday.

The arrests and seizures last Thursday involved two semi-automatic guns that were not registered, more than $45,000 in cash and nearly 30 pounds of drugs, including the fentanyl.

San Francisco police Chief Bill Scott said the amount of fentanyl that was seized is “enough lethal overdoses to wipe out San Francisco's population four times over.” About 875,000 people reside in the city. Fentanyl, an extremely lethal synthetic opioid, is between 25 to 50 times more powerful than heroin.

“Fentanyl remains the primary chemical culprit in the record-shattering number of fatal overdoses plaguing our City, and the recovery of semi-automatic ghost guns along with this haul of deadly drugs most likely intended for the Tenderloin is ominous,” Scott said.

So far this year, San Francisco police said they have arrested 248 people on suspicion of sales or possession for sale of dangerous drugs, seized more than $100,000 in cash, and seized more than 17 pounds fentanyl, and several other pounds of cocaine, heroin and methamphetamine.

The five men, whose names were not released, are between 23 and 45 years old, police said. They were arrested on suspicion of various narcotics-related charges and booked at Santa Rita Jail in Dublin.

Police executed warrants on the 1700 block of 28th Avenue, the 2900 block of 35th Avenue, and the 9800 block of MacArthur Boulevard.

Officers found a “large quantity” of un-packaged fentanyl at the MacArthur Boulevard site, prompting police to call Oakland firefighters. Fire personnel declared the site a HazMat site, or hazardous materials site, and cleared the scene as safe, police said.

A photograph shared by police shows a rectangular table filled with clear plastic baggies of narcotics, stacks of cash and two guns.


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Re: [CA] SFPD's fentanyl bust: 'Enough lethal overdoses to wipe out San Francisco's population four times over" [Re: veggie] * 1
    #27342573 - 06/10/21 08:56 AM (2 days, 22 hours ago)

Of course they always pass it off as 100% pure fentanyl, that makes for much better headlines.

16 lbs of fentanyl could create hundreds of millions of dollars worth of "heroin". Is that in line with anything else seen here?

And the cops so obviously know this....they just LOVE giving you their busts "value"....but they always oh so conveniently leave out the "value" of the "100% fentanyl" they just confiscated, why do you think that is??? Think about it, when do do ever see them give values of lbs of fentanyl? They can't, because if they did, the whole facade falls apart.

It's past time we passed laws that prevent LEO and other government agencies from being anything other than 100% honest with the public, in a time where our democracy is under assault because so many of us have a tenuous relationship with reality, we don't need it distorted even more with each new press release from every bureaucrat pushing an agenda.


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Re: [CA] SFPD's fentanyl bust: 'Enough lethal overdoses to wipe out San Francisco's population four times over" [Re: Holybullshit]
    #27342637 - 06/10/21 09:58 AM (2 days, 21 hours ago)

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Holybullshit said:
...It's past time we passed laws that prevent LEO and other government agencies from being anything other than 100% honest with the public, in a time where our democracy is under assault because so many of us have a tenuous relationship with reality, we don't need it distorted even more with each new press release from every bureaucrat pushing an agenda.




What you're seeing in LEO looks to me like one more nasty example of self-justification through inflated "accomplishment." In the absence of real public good from The War on Drugs, "monetization" and inflation are the easiest way for drug-busters to play that game.

Anybody who gets public money is desperate to justify whatever they get by "proving" that they are doing something productive and important with it, and there aren't a lot of consequences for making announcements full of "alternative facts." It's what we get for living in a hyper-capitalized society where the money you get is your social status.

Millennia ago, the evangelist Timothy warned: "For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, and in their eagerness to be rich some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pains." Substitute "decency," "reality" or whatever your Tradition likes for "the faith" and it explains a lot...


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Re: [CA] SFPD's fentanyl bust: 'Enough lethal overdoses to wipe out San Francisco's population four times over" [Re: sonoramo]
    #27342936 - 06/10/21 01:06 PM (2 days, 18 hours ago)

The fact they have TONS of mannitol (a common fentanyl cutting agent) leads me to believe it's very possible that there is a good portion of that seized fentanyl that could've been pure as they likely processed cutting it themselves, which isn't a simple task to properly do without creating hot spots (portions with higher concentration then other portions of the same batch). Also curious what the pink, prime, and green stuff is as people like they don't usually have things like MDMA. This is actually a pretty make bust, which honestly good riddance to it. The fentanyl market has been the worst thing to happen to the city.

Edit: They also had lidocaine too so it's possible the mannitol was also for the coke, but I'm not sure if that's commonly used to cut cocaine as I am not sure if it has the same consistency.


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Re: [CA] SFPD's fentanyl bust: 'Enough lethal overdoses to wipe out San Francisco's population four times over" [Re: tacodude]
    #27344125 - 06/11/21 10:23 AM (1 day, 21 hours ago)

Maybe some portion of that fentanyl is pure, we don't know, maybe the fent they got was already cut enough to make it safer to handle if not safe to dose, again don't know, because LEO ALWAYS says its 100%. But you can be damned sure that ALL of the fentanyl that has ALREADY been cut is being declared as 100% fentanyl by LEO.

It just makes no sense for them to have 16 lbs of pure fent, they have no way of even coming ANYWHERE CLOSE to distributing that, it would just be 15 lbs of USELESS powder to them, 15 lbs of powder that they have to transport discretely, have to keep protected, that they are putting at risk of being confiscated and would be putting a ridiculously huge target on their back for robbery, that just leads to larger jail sentences. It'd be 15 lbs of fent, that someone paid for and imported, that would likely never, ever be sold.

They have thousands of doses of cocaine, meth, etc. about a hundred thousand dollars in cash.....but they have hundreds of millions of doses of fentanyl with a potential retail value over half a billion dollars alongside it??? Sure...


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Re: [CA] SFPD's fentanyl bust: 'Enough lethal overdoses to wipe out San Francisco's population four times over" [Re: Holybullshit]
    #27344176 - 06/11/21 11:02 AM (1 day, 20 hours ago)

Quote:

Holybullshit said:
Maybe some portion of that fentanyl is pure, we don't know, maybe the fent they got was already cut enough to make it safer to handle if not safe to dose, again don't know, because LEO ALWAYS says its 100%. But you can be damned sure that ALL of the fentanyl that has ALREADY been cut is being declared as 100% fentanyl by LEO....





I just occurred to me to ask: Does LEO even know how pure the drugs are that they nab? If they only do reagent testing, how could they know the difference between 20% and 80%? Does LEO normally have the time and resources to do accurate quantitative testing of the samples? It isn't cheap.

Inquirin' minds want to know,...  :brainfart:


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Re: [CA] SFPD's fentanyl bust: 'Enough lethal overdoses to wipe out San Francisco's population four times over" [Re: sonoramo]
    #27345222 - 06/12/21 09:29 AM (22 hours, 7 minutes ago)

At the time of the press releases they make? No. But, normally, yes. Large fentanyl busts will likely be tested at some point as a matter of course. Most major agencies don't even need to outsource it, or maybe as far as the state lab...and even if they did, cheap is a relative term, and how often do you think a LEO agency that would quibble over the cost of a quantitative drug test is really running across lbs of(supposedly pure) fentanyl?

But you really don't need one to recognize how stupidly out of place lbs of pure fent would be at drug busts like these.

It'd be like burying the exon valdez underneath a mom and pop gas station.


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