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Gourmet in Oklahoma
    #27339823 - 06/08/21 07:23 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Looking to grow some gourmets for first time outdoors. I was wondering if you could suggest a good starter I am guessing oysters but not sure which kind. Looking to grow when temps are between 70-90 degrees I know it gets to hot in he summer. If you could suggest I good starter for the temperature range thank you.

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Re: Gourmet in Oklahoma [Re: kanemush]
    #27339844 - 06/08/21 07:54 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Yellow oysters are far the most prolific... Damn near probably an invasive species... I've found escapees 1/4 mile from where they were cultivated that I assume got there by spores hitch hiking on shoes. The Pink oysters are the pickiest. The white wild types are also easy. Another great gormet is Wine Cap on straw or mulch in the vege garden.

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Re: Gourmet in Oklahoma [Re: kanemush]
    #27339849 - 06/08/21 07:57 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Pinks and golds. Dontrefridgerate pink culture!
Elm a oyster
Phoenix oyster
Princess oyster *I think
Sporeless oysters are pretty tolerant
3015 oysters suppose to be all year.
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There is a heat tolerant lions mane, but my regular LM seems okay at 70, but the heat tolerant strain from Appalachian gold was cloned on a 85 degree day

That's all I'm aware of/ doing. I would be down for another warm one. I'm actually not doing Phoenix or pearl,yet. I could also get you all the cultures I have if you want


I would say the pinks are more vigorous than the golds personally. I think they are faster technically even according to stamets. But they spoil really fast and grow so fast I've found them hard to time with my others

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Re: Gourmet in Oklahoma [Re: Farm3r]
    #27339863 - 06/08/21 08:06 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

awesome information thank you all for the help.

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Re: Gourmet in Oklahoma [Re: kanemush]
    #27340088 - 06/08/21 11:01 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Aloha Elma or Amycel 3015. I have grown both up to 90F...

https://alohamedicinals.com/organic-grain-spawn/

Here is the Elma...



Not all fruits are this size but you see the potential.

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Re: Gourmet in Oklahoma [Re: d00m-n-shr00ms]
    #27340342 - 06/08/21 02:28 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Bleh on the winecaps.. I grew them years ago. Fun to grow, they look beautiful, but their taste and texture leave much to be desired for me. They make "ok" mush burgers like a portobello, but their stipes/ stems are nearly inedible. Great first mush to grow though I agree with ya there. They are honestly hard to get rid of outdoors.


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Re: Gourmet in Oklahoma [Re: Farm3r]
    #27343830 - 06/11/21 01:11 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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Pinks and golds. Dontrefridgerate pink culture!
Elm a oyster
Phoenix oyster
Princess oyster *I think
Sporeless oysters are pretty tolerant
3015 oysters suppose to be all year.
Warm shiitaki /3790
There is a heat tolerant lions mane, but my regular LM seems okay at 70, but the heat tolerant strain from Appalachian gold was cloned on a 85 degree day

That's all I'm aware of/ doing. I would be down for another warm one. I'm actually not doing Phoenix or pearl,yet. I could also get you all the cultures I have if you want


I would say the pinks are more vigorous than the golds personally. I think they are faster technically even according to stamets. But they spoil really fast and grow so fast I've found them hard to time with my others




I wouldnt mind starting with some oysters if you can spare them :smile:

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Re: Gourmet in Oklahoma [Re: kanemush]
    #27344144 - 06/11/21 08:39 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Send me a message with what you want and the address asap, I'll be in the lab soon I can make you some fresh plates and send them asap


I'll just make you some ha, send the addy

Edited by Farm3r (06/11/21 08:51 AM)

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Re: Gourmet in Oklahoma [Re: Farm3r]
    #27344175 - 06/11/21 09:01 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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Send me a message with what you want and the address asap, I'll be in the lab soon I can make you some fresh plates and send them asap


I'll just make you some ha, send the addy




:pm:

Edited by kanemush (06/11/21 09:02 AM)

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Re: Gourmet in Oklahoma [Re: sendmehummus]
    #27344200 - 06/11/21 09:25 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

king stropharia only taste good if I harvest before the cap breaks away from the stipe when they're small. Otherwise I agree the taste of a regular wine cap mushroom is bleh to bad. Especially when portobello style.


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Re: Gourmet in Oklahoma [Re: junior c]
    #27344379 - 06/11/21 12:09 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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king stropharia only taste good if I harvest before the cap breaks away from the stipe when they're small. Otherwise I agree the taste of a regular wine cap mushroom is bleh to bad. Especially when portobello style.




seems people like to grow winecaps but hate them to eat lol. Thank you for the wonderful help.

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Re: Gourmet in Oklahoma [Re: kanemush]
    #27345826 - 06/12/21 05:21 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I agree winecaps are more fun to grow than versatile in the kitchen- might I humbly recommend to anyone with a glut of winecaps to use them in one of the colonial 'mushroom ketchup' recipes- despite the name the sauce you end up with is basically a really complex worchesire sauce style concoction.

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Re: Gourmet in Oklahoma [Re: d00m-n-shr00ms]
    #27354687 - 06/19/21 01:54 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

how to you keep slugs and other insects from devouring your wine caps?

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Re: Gourmet in Oklahoma [Re: Allan Cash]
    #27388206 - 07/15/21 02:52 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Regarding snails and slugs-
I control them by administering a 6pk of beer every few days.
Process is simple- buy a six pack of beer bottles, consume the beer in the garden, randomly scatter the bottles around on thier sides when there's just a sip left, in the middle of the next afternoon gather the bottles of drunk slugs, get another sixer and repeat as needed.
Also, old towels put down at night next to the garden will capture slugs and nocturnal cut worms that i gather and relocate or destroy in the morning.

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Re: Gourmet in Oklahoma [Re: d00m-n-shr00ms]
    #27388878 - 07/15/21 02:30 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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Regarding snails and slugs-
I control them by administering a 6pk of beer every few days.
Process is simple- buy a six pack of beer bottles, consume the beer in the garden, randomly scatter the bottles around on thier sides when there's just a sip left, in the middle of the next afternoon gather the bottles of drunk slugs, get another sixer and repeat as needed.
Also, old towels put down at night next to the garden will capture slugs and nocturnal cut worms that i gather and relocate or destroy in the morning.




Trade having slug for being an alcoholic? Because I am sure many people here would rather be an alcoholic than have slugs!! The only problem I have with this is the part about buying a 6pk or is this the lightweight version? Step it up and buy a 12pk!!

Edited by SHROOMSISAY01 (07/15/21 03:10 PM)

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Re: Gourmet in Oklahoma [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #27389376 - 07/15/21 07:41 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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d00m-n-shr00ms said:
Regarding snails and slugs-
I control them by administering a 6pk of beer every few days.
Process is simple- buy a six pack of beer bottles, consume the beer in the garden, randomly scatter the bottles around on thier sides when there's just a sip left, in the middle of the next afternoon gather the bottles of drunk slugs, get another sixer and repeat as needed.
Also, old towels put down at night next to the garden will capture slugs and nocturnal cut worms that i gather and relocate or destroy in the morning.




Trade having slug for being an alcoholic? Because I am sure many people here would rather be an alcoholic than have slugs!! The only problem I have with this is the part about buying a 6pk or is this the lightweight version? Step it up and buy a 12pk!!




lol have to say sounds like a pretty good plan :smile: I wonder if slugs hate marijuana might blow some smoke at them :smile:

Edited by kanemush (07/15/21 07:42 PM)

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Re: Gourmet in Oklahoma [Re: kanemush]
    #27781223 - 05/17/22 07:04 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

My "I'm not an alcoholic, I'm an amateur mycologist Life Hacks" gets worse...
I've decided that a really good way to get a nice heavy glass bottle for making LC's that you don't have to spend time sterilizing is to start with a bottle of vodka and empty it quickly.
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Re: Gourmet in Oklahoma [Re: d00m-n-shr00ms]
    #27781339 - 05/17/22 08:58 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Ok, you start off by saying I'm not an alcoholic. But by your own admission, you went from a 6 pack to a bottle of vodka. Admitting your an alcoholic is the 1st step to recovery!! Were here for you man!! You can do it!!

I admit that mycology sometimes drives me to want to drink. But come on man you're on a downward spiral. Have you tried the 12-step program?

Edited by SHROOMSISAY01 (05/17/22 09:11 AM)

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Re: Gourmet in Oklahoma [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #27781396 - 05/17/22 09:58 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I've had very good luck with lions mane here. I saw someone mention elm oyster. I've never grown those but I see em on inaturalist a lot. I'm sure you could grow a decent strain of ostreatus easily enough as well. I been seeing woodear mushrooms on inaturalist lately if you wanna get weird with it! I didn't like the texture of those things when I tried em but I bet they're fun to grow. :smile:

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