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scathingly on point gore speech
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http://www.moveonpac.org/goreremarks052604.html/


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Re: scathingly on point gore speech [Re: afoaf]
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Scathingly on point, indeed! :thumbup:

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Re: scathingly on point gore speech [Re: afoaf]
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It is therefore essential that even as we focus on the fateful choice, the voters must make this November that we simultaneously search for ways to sharply reduce the extraordinary danger that we face with the current leadership team in place. It is for that reason that I am calling today for Republicans as well as Democrats to join me in asking for the immediate resignations of those immediately below George Bush and Dick Cheney who are most responsible for creating the catastrophe that we are facing in Iraq.

We desperately need a national security team with at least minimal competence because the current team is making things worse with each passing day. They are endangering the lives of our soldiers, and sharply increasing the danger faced by American citizens everywhere in the world, including here at home. They are enraging hundreds of millions of people and embittering an entire generation of anti-Americans whose rage is already near the boiling point.

We simply cannot afford to further increase the risk to our country with more blunders by this team. Donald Rumsfeld, as the chief architect of the war plan, should resign today. His deputies Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith and his intelligence chief Stephen Cambone should also resign. The nation is especially at risk every single day that Rumsfeld remains as Secretary of Defense.

Condoleeza Rice, who has badly mishandled the coordination of national security policy, should also resign immediately.

George Tenet should also resign. I want to offer a special word about George Tenet, because he is a personal friend and I know him to be a good and decent man. It is especially painful to call for his resignation, but I have regretfully concluded that it is extremely important that our country have new leadership at the CIA immediately.


WOW!

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Re: scathingly on point gore speech [Re: adrug]
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thank you, mr. president!


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Re: scathingly on point gore speech [Re: afoaf]
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Link doesn't work.

Someone probably remembered what an ass Gore is and took it down.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: scathingly on point gore speech [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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yeah, it stopped working for a second. It's working again now though.

A good read too. He makes some very good points.

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Re: scathingly on point gore speech [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
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Gore could've made a great President, it just sucks he was such a lousy campaigner. Also it sucks too many Americans only look at superficial charisma and don't pay attention to the content of differing views. I'll tell you something though.....there's gonna be a lot more blacks and hispanics voting in Florida this November than four years ago, a lot more everyone voting for that matter.

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Re: scathingly on point gore speech [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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works for me...


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Re: scathingly on point gore speech [Re: afoaf]
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During Ronald Reagan's Presidency, Secretary of Labor Ray Donovan was accused of corruption, but eventually, after a lot of publicity, the indictment was thrown out by the Judge. Donovan asked the question, "Where do I go to get my reputation back?" President Bush has now placed the United States of America in the same situation. Where do we go to get our good name back?

The answer is, we go where we always go when a dramatic change is needed. We go to the ballot box, and we make it clear to the rest of the world that what's been happening in America for the last four years, and what America has been doing in Iraq for the last two years, really is not who we are. We, as a people, at least the overwhelming majority of us, do not endorse the decision to dishonor the Geneva Convention and the Bill of Rights....




I hope Kerry gets a blowout win this November. It'd be a good way for the American people to apologize for the bullshit and indicate collective wish to make things better. I think this little "Christianity" hate organization is going to polarize the country for a while to come though.

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Re: scathingly on point gore speech [Re: question_for_joo]
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absolutely.

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Re: scathingly on point gore speech [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
Someone probably remembered what an ass Gore is...


It's true that Gore is an ass, but I know of no one who is wrong 100% of the time. In this case he made some very good points.


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Re: scathingly on point gore speech [Re: Evolving]
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Evolving said:
luvdemshrooms said:
Someone probably remembered what an ass Gore is...


It's true that Gore is an ass, but I know of no one who is wrong 100% of the time. In this case he made some very good points.


As I have been unable to access the speech, I don't know. I'll try again later.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: scathingly on point gore speech [Re: afoaf]
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The rebuttal is better.




Washington, DC?RNC Communications Director Jim Dyke issued the following statement today in response to a speech by former Vice President Al Gore attacking President Bush.

?Al Gore served as Vice President of this country for eight years. During that time, Osama Bin Laden declared war on the United States five times and terrorists killed US citizens on at least four different occasions including the first bombing of the World Trade Center, the attacks on Khobar Towers, our embassies in East Africa, and the USS Cole.?

?Al Gore?s attacks on the President today demonstrate that he either does not understand the threat of global terror, or he has amnesia.?


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Edited by luvdemshrooms (05/26/04 05:35 PM)

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Re: scathingly on point gore speech [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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:thumbup:



I had trouble accessing it earlier, but had no problem just now.

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Re: scathingly on point gore speech [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Can't fault the facts so fault the source? -Luvdemshrooms



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Re: scathingly on point gore speech [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Gore's speech eloquently made points I agree with strongly.

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Re: scathingly on point gore speech [Re: sir tripsalot]
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sir tripsalot said:
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Can't fault the facts so fault the source? -Luvdemshrooms




I didn't fault the source. I merely said I like the rebuttal better.

How is that faulting the source?

Some of you try too hard.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: scathingly on point gore speech [Re: afoaf]
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god that speech gives me a rod..it is so on point and flawless..i can't wait to vote that jesus loving psychopath G.W.B. right out of office :smile:

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Re: scathingly on point gore speech [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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"Someone probably remembered what an ass Gore is and took it down."


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Re: scathingly on point gore speech [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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no, the rebuttal faults the source

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Re: scathingly on point gore speech [Re: afoaf]
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afoaf said:
thank you, mr. president!


:lol:





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Re: scathingly on point gore speech [Re: sir tripsalot]
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sir tripsalot said:
"Someone probably remembered what an ass Gore is and took it down."


That's my opinion of Gore, not of the speech since I hadn't yet read it.

So, I still wasn't faulting the facts.

Really weak man.

Keep trying though, maybe you'll score a hit someday.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: scathingly on point gore speech [Re: vampirism]
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Go back and re-read the thread. You'll notice his comment about the facts was directed to a comment I made after acknowledging I had not yet read the speech.

Equally weak.

Why is it so few can read and follow along? It's quite sad really, the low level of comprehension exhibited by so many.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: scathingly on point gore speech [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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i read that, my comment redirected attention to the rebuttal. The rebuttal did nothing but attack Gore, what do you say for this? Quit looking for comprehension where its irrelevant

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Re: scathingly on point gore speech [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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?Al Gore served as Vice President of this country for eight years. During that time, Osama Bin Laden declared war on the United States five times and terrorists killed US citizens on at least four different occasions including the first bombing of the World Trade Center, the attacks on Khobar Towers, our embassies in East Africa, and the USS Cole.?




Usually, you only declare war once... five times seems a bit excessive, even for a terrorist. Osama was upset and 'declared war on the US' during the first Bush's presidency when Saudi Arabia sided with the US rather than Osama to help Kuwait. Granted, when the the Clinton administration inherited the problem, they did very little to help the situation, and often made it worse by ignoring it. I have no love for Clinton. I used to think he was the worst president the US has ever had... until we got our current one... but to blame him for our current presidents mistakes is low. Of course, we can't say anything bad about our current president, or we are anti-patriotic terrorist-sympathizing gay-loving anti-american pro-satan slime.


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Re: scathingly on point gore speech [Re: Seuss]
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Seuss said:
I have no love for Clinton.  I used to think he was the worst president the US has ever had... until we got our current one... but to blame him for our current presidents mistakes is low.


:thumbup:

I for one, am getting sick of Republicans whining about Clinton and blaming everything on him.  But I guess it's easier than taking responsibility for your own fuck ups.


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Re: scathingly on point gore speech [Re: Seuss]
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Usually, you only declare war once... five times seems a bit excessive, even for a terrorist.

:laugh:

:thumbup:


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Re: scathingly on point gore speech [Re: sir tripsalot]
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you're batting a thousand in my book...


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Re: scathingly on point gore speech [Re: afoaf]
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here's the video:

http://www.c-span.org

it's currently the second 'most watched'.


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