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bodhisatta 
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Re: How Much LEO Surveillance do You Think the Forums Are Under? [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
#27428953 - 08/15/21 09:30 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sugabearcrisp said: That is if you turn it off, you going to risk getting shot by a cop to try and turn your phone off?
Most people do it as soon as they see the lights go on if you're waiting til the cop is walking up or at your window you're an idiot
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Sugabearcrisp
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Re: How Much LEO Surveillance do You Think the Forums Are Under? [Re: bodhisatta]
#27429039 - 08/15/21 10:48 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said:
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Sugabearcrisp said: That is if you turn it off, you going to risk getting shot by a cop to try and turn your phone off?
Most people do it as soon as they see the lights go on if you're waiting til the cop is walking up or at your window you're an idiot
Why are you turning off your cell phone, I thought LEO doesn't give a shit about it?
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bodhisatta said: People grow and sell weed, shrooms and much more on Facebook, Instagram and Whatsapp and probably a lot of other places too. Because LEO doesn't give a shit about it. Those people get caught from dumb shit they do off-line anyway.
My experience has been that making movements in response to lights going on behind you will be seen as an attempt to hide something and will result in questioning and or a search. Worse case they will be coming to the window guns drawn, i mean how do they know you aren't rustling around with a firearm to shoot them in the face
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Shroomintune
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Re: How Much LEO Surveillance do You Think the Forums Are Under? [Re: Sugabearcrisp] 1
#27435098 - 08/19/21 07:28 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Agents are everywhere attempting to save us from ourselves. At least they have good taste in Anime characters.
https://little-witch-academia.fandom.com/wiki/Sucy_Manbavaran
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The Thing
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Re: How Much LEO Surveillance do You Think the Forums Are Under? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#27435243 - 08/19/21 09:21 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Considering that the infamous silk road darkweb drug website and its creator were traced back to the shroomery, i would say leo are definately keeping a finger on the pulse of this place. As long as you got nothing to hide though, no big deal i guess.
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Re: How Much LEO Surveillance do You Think the Forums Are Under? [Re: The Thing]
#27435291 - 08/19/21 10:00 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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The Thing said: As long as you got nothing to hide though, no big deal i guess.
Well firstly thats just not true, 2ndly thats something a cop would say, 3rdly thats just not true.
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Sugabearcrisp
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Re: How Much LEO Surveillance do You Think the Forums Are Under? [Re: Shroomintune]
#27435608 - 08/20/21 06:49 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shroomintune said: Agents are everywhere attempting to save us from ourselves. At least they have good taste in Anime characters.
https://little-witch-academia.fandom.com/wiki/Sucy_Manbavaran

I want that patch
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oursoulsinmotion
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Re: How Much LEO Surveillance do You Think the Forums Are Under? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#27497651 - 10/08/21 05:33 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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If its on the internet assume the 3 lettered agencies have had their paws on it at some point and time. Ppl get busted and their internet activities used against them in court as evidence all the time.
If youre that paranoid about it happening, use cloaking devices regularly or dont post.
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oursoulsinmotion
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Re: How Much LEO Surveillance do You Think the Forums Are Under? [Re: oursoulsinmotion]
#27497655 - 10/08/21 05:36 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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The FBI paid hackers to show them how to get into iphones that are locked. I dont agree with it 100% but if youre a terrorist god fuckin luck.
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oursoulsinmotion
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Re: How Much LEO Surveillance do You Think the Forums Are Under? [Re: oursoulsinmotion]
#27497801 - 10/08/21 07:34 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Remember the old saying "If you got 5 its 5-0." lol
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theRealrollforever
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Re: How Much LEO Surveillance do You Think the Forums Are Under? [Re: oursoulsinmotion] 1
#27511170 - 10/20/21 09:43 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Anyone who thinks that LE is montoring these forums actively is pretty silly. Or super algorithms for combing the entirety of a forums posts and determine which ones have data that MIGHT be credible? Not yet
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Re: How Much LEO Surveillance do You Think the Forums Are Under? [Re: theRealrollforever] 1
#27512050 - 10/21/21 04:47 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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I guess im silly then.
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Sugabearcrisp
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Re: How Much LEO Surveillance do You Think the Forums Are Under? [Re: theRealrollforever]
#27512146 - 10/21/21 07:21 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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theRealrollforever said: Anyone who thinks that LE is montoring these forums actively is pretty silly. Or super algorithms for combing the entirety of a forums posts and determine which ones have data that MIGHT be credible? Not yet
Rrf i work in data analytics, ai and machine learning. We were mashing up data sources to find tax cheats 15 years ago. State tax returns, federal tax returns, w2s, w4s, customs roles, auction records, llcs, vehicle and boat registrations, credit card records, bank transfers, etc. Caught a bunch of non filers but also caught rich people bringing in art and even John Kerry parking his yaught in rode island.
Like moore's law the technology has exponentially gotten better. If you go to apply for something like the tsa clear program they have a file that includes things like love letters from when your rc shipment got seized along with suspected aliases and group memberships.
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InsultingLizard
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Re: How Much LEO Surveillance do You Think the Forums Are Under? [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
#27512299 - 10/21/21 10:25 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's hardly impressive. It's all information that was already entered somewhere with the right associations. Correlating information and giving meaning to meaningless data are not anywhere near the same level of complexity.
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Sugabearcrisp
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Re: How Much LEO Surveillance do You Think the Forums Are Under? [Re: InsultingLizard]
#27512365 - 10/21/21 11:44 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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InsultingLizard said: That's hardly impressive. It's all information that was already entered somewhere with the right associations. Correlating information and giving meaning to meaningless data are not anywhere near the same level of complexity.
15 years ago it was impressive as these systems didn't talk to each other, mostly old school hierarchical mainframe databases, they didn't even have same data types and formats and some of them did not require ssn. Building a profile and determining the missing pieces was hardly trivial. In that case it was necessary to have high enough accuracy to support audit and prosecution for tax evasion, although most including Kerry just pay up.
Now a days it is easier to tie data together using ip addresses, mac addresses, cell ein, debit/cc, toll passes, facial recognition, proliferation of govt, commercial and personal security cameras, license plate scanners and your phone always scanning for wifi networks. Add in highly parallel processing and data storage systems, ai and ml and the ability to profile the 300+ million usa residents is clearly possible. The chinese do it for 10 times that.
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Brian Jones
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Re: How Much LEO Surveillance do You Think the Forums Are Under? [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
#27513221 - 10/22/21 05:43 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sugabearcrisp said:
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theRealrollforever said: Anyone who thinks that LE is montoring these forums actively is pretty silly. Or super algorithms for combing the entirety of a forums posts and determine which ones have data that MIGHT be credible? Not yet
Rrf i work in data analytics, ai and machine learning. We were mashing up data sources to find tax cheats 15 years ago. State tax returns, federal tax returns, w2s, w4s, customs roles, auction records, llcs, vehicle and boat registrations, credit card records, bank transfers, etc. Caught a bunch of non filers but also caught rich people bringing in art and even John Kerry parking his yaught in rode island.
Like moore's law the technology has exponentially gotten better. If you go to apply for something like the tsa clear program they have a file that includes things like love letters from when your rc shipment got seized along with suspected aliases and group memberships.
I'm thinking not much of this ever gets acted upon. They always say too much data and not enough analysis. Probably with algorithmic programs there is a level of analysis, but there are too many results, and only causes action when the targets are more specific. At any rate, nothing seems to happen here.
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Sugabearcrisp
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Re: How Much LEO Surveillance do You Think the Forums Are Under? [Re: Brian Jones]
#27513292 - 10/22/21 07:33 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Brian Jones said:
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Sugabearcrisp said:
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theRealrollforever said: Anyone who thinks that LE is montoring these forums actively is pretty silly. Or super algorithms for combing the entirety of a forums posts and determine which ones have data that MIGHT be credible? Not yet
Rrf i work in data analytics, ai and machine learning. We were mashing up data sources to find tax cheats 15 years ago. State tax returns, federal tax returns, w2s, w4s, customs roles, auction records, llcs, vehicle and boat registrations, credit card records, bank transfers, etc. Caught a bunch of non filers but also caught rich people bringing in art and even John Kerry parking his yaught in rode island.
Like moore's law the technology has exponentially gotten better. If you go to apply for something like the tsa clear program they have a file that includes things like love letters from when your rc shipment got seized along with suspected aliases and group memberships.
I'm thinking not much of this ever gets acted upon. They always say too much data and not enough analysis. Probably with algorithmic programs there is a level of analysis, but there are too many results, and only causes action when the targets are more specific. At any rate, nothing seems to happen here.
I would agree that it doesn't get acted on overtly but I doubt any active member would get past a government clearance background check to work with or for one of the three letter agencies.
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Re: How Much LEO Surveillance do You Think the Forums Are Under? [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
#27513348 - 10/22/21 08:39 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Now a days it is easier to tie data together using ip addresses, mac addresses, cell ein, debit/cc, toll passes, facial recognition, proliferation of govt, commercial and personal security cameras, license plate scanners and your phone always scanning for wifi networks.
So are we now assuming that governments have direct access to all computers everywhere? Like, MAC addresses? The only one who can see your network interface's MAC address is the computer on the other end of the wire (or every other computer on the segment, if you're connected to a layer 2 switch). The only ones who can see that your phone is looking for Wi-Fi is whatever AP is within about 20 meters.
And, again, all this is meaningless data. Even if you could track the street movements of absolutely everyone, what could be deduced from that?
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Re: How Much LEO Surveillance do You Think the Forums Are Under? [Re: Sugabearcrisp] 2
#27514517 - 10/22/21 11:34 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sugabearcrisp said: I would agree that it doesn't get acted on overtly but I doubt any active member would get past a government clearance background check to work with or for one of the three letter agencies.
When I applied for a security clearance they did a 7 year investigation and gave me a stack of documents about myself an inch thick - even though I was a moderator here the whole time, it didn't mention mushrooms. It did say that I hacked into the DMV, which wasn't true.
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The Thing
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Re: How Much LEO Surveillance do You Think the Forums Are Under? [Re: Brian Jones]
#27514629 - 10/23/21 03:59 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Brian Jones said: At any rate, nothing seems to happen here.
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BuiltToLast
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Re: How Much LEO Surveillance do You Think the Forums Are Under? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#27523647 - 10/30/21 05:34 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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If it’s being monitored it’s done so using computer algorithms, as is the entire web.
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