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Re: First ever spawning to sub, any advice would be helpful [Re: Bakedbeings]
    #27318601 - 05/22/21 11:47 AM (23 days, 18 hours ago)

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if im not wrong someone on this site ended up in a coma that way




Who knows?
Has it been proven?
I wouldn`t take a sniff from a fusarium jar though :thumbup:

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Re: First ever spawning to sub, any advice would be helpful [Re: Goatrider]
    #27319540 - 05/23/21 05:02 AM (23 days, 1 hour ago)

I opened the jars a few hours ago, 3 of them smelled like death as soon as I cracked them, so I'm just tossing them.
Out of the 3 that remained, 2 had almost no scent, just a very mild, earthy smell, and the last one (which is one of the jars with a lot of myc fluid) had a very antibiotic-y scent, but once I drained the fluid, it also had almost no scent, so I spawned it to sub as well.
The mycelium was very dense, there was no way I could break it up by just shaking the jar, I had to "cut" it in pieces with a spoon. I didn't notice any molds on the inside of the mycelium, but I'm aware that doesn't mean anything.

Anyway I have three shoeboxes now, I've put them in separate garbage bags and I plan on checking them in 10 days to see if anything is happening.


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Re: First ever spawning to sub, any advice would be helpful [Re: Te0nanacatl]
    #27319550 - 05/23/21 05:23 AM (23 days, 48 minutes ago)

You did well tossing them death jars :thumbup:

Keep on posting mate!

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Re: First ever spawning to sub, any advice would be helpful [Re: Bakedbeings]
    #27319557 - 05/23/21 05:38 AM (23 days, 33 minutes ago)

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be VERY careful about the 'smell test'. i only smell mycelium that looks healthy just to double check. if something is VISIBLY contaminated theres no need to risk brain damage by inhaling a bunch of mystery microbes. if im not wrong someone on this site ended up in a coma that way




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Re: First ever spawning to sub, any advice would be helpful [Re: Goatrider]
    #27319654 - 05/23/21 09:23 AM (22 days, 20 hours ago)

no clue, i remember reading about it lurking on here a few years ago. i doubt its provable with this whole community being anonymous. but i hate to let the truth get in the way of a good story :smile:


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Re: First ever spawning to sub, any advice would be helpful [Re: Bakedbeings]
    #27332401 - 06/02/21 11:45 AM (12 days, 18 hours ago)

Ten days have passed, and today I've checked my shoeboxes for the first time.

Looks like only one has a chance of surviving, but I guess you'll tell me what's growing in it.



Box number 1 has nothing growing in it except a tiny spot of mold. The second one looks promising to me, but I have no idea what the tiny white dots are. The third one smells bad besides looking bad :smile:

The plan is to throw out the boxes 1 and 3, a dub-tub the second one and wait to see what grows. I would also like to case the box, since I have some leftover verm. I don't plan on pasteurizing the verm, just mix it with a bit of bottled water and spread it over top. If any of this is a mistake, let me know, I will probably do this tomorrow morning.


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Re: First ever spawning to sub, any advice would be helpful [Re: Te0nanacatl]
    #27332493 - 06/02/21 12:43 PM (12 days, 17 hours ago)

Toss the two with cobweb mold, the white dots look like primordia however I think I see some cobweb there too? Hard to tell because of the photo quality. The fully colonized one looks great. Instead of casing with straight verm I’d use 50/50 peat & verm pasteurized. There are a number of teks on how to do that. If you decide to use straight verm just layer it on top about ~1/4” and heavily mist it. It will be easier to handle this way. You could also just let it fruit uncased. I’m seeing a lot of primordia forming so its already starting to fruit.


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Re: First ever spawning to sub, any advice would be helpful [Re: PitcherCrab]
    #27333218 - 06/03/21 12:52 AM (12 days, 5 hours ago)

When you look at the sub in normal light, without flash, I think the white dots are grains of verm, either way, there is no sign of mycelium in boxes 1 and 3.

I tossed those two, and I'm fruiting the second one. I read up on straight verm casings, and RR says it's only a step above no casing at all, and since I can't get peat moss and lime until monday, I'll just go with no casing.
My thinking is, since I don't have the benefit of casing layer to keep the moisture in, I won't dubtub it for now, I'll just move the shoebox out of the taped up trash bag to improve FAE, mist it once to trigger pinning and leave it closed. It doesn't make sense to me to flip the lid, since the shoebox is much smaller than a monotub, I think it would dry out too quickly, and besides I'll get enough FAE through the imperfect lid seal. Again, if I'm wrong on anything please correct me.

I honestly can't believe even one box mad it to colonization, considering the state of those jars, if I get a single mushroom I'm happy :laugh:


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Re: First ever spawning to sub, any advice would be helpful [Re: Te0nanacatl]
    #27333231 - 06/03/21 01:09 AM (12 days, 5 hours ago)

Based on how those primordia are looking you’ll for sure be getting mushrooms! I don’t think you need to mist it at all... looks to me like its happy exactly where its at. If you do mist just mist the air above the mycelium and let it float down on to the surface, misting directly and too much can cause pins to abort. Dub tubbing wouldn’t hurt either, you could offset the top tub a little to leave a crack to help give it more FAE to trigger pinning. Or alternatively put the whole thing into a larger mono. That’s my preferred way to fruit shoeboxes.

As for a casing layer, get all the supplies and do it next time with the clone you take from that fully colonized box. Make sure to post updates with how the fruiting goes!


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Re: First ever spawning to sub, any advice would be helpful [Re: PitcherCrab]
    #27333237 - 06/03/21 01:21 AM (12 days, 4 hours ago)

Yup, I just misted a bit above the sub, got tiny beads of water on mycelium, that should be fine.

The plan was originally to put them in a larger mono, I even bought one that could fit all three of them (I was optimistic :smile:), but I think it's too big to put just one inside. Considering Bod's shoebox tek, if you can just put a bag with holes on top during fruiting, I guess you can do pretty much anything and it will grow. The way I understand it, you just need enclosed space to keep in the moisture, but still allow FAE.


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Re: First ever spawning to sub, any advice would be helpful [Re: Te0nanacatl]
    #27333241 - 06/03/21 01:41 AM (12 days, 4 hours ago)

Yup! You got it. Enclosed space with some way of providing FAE. Even myco bags work and their filter patches don’t really provide too much FAE.


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Re: First ever spawning to sub, any advice would be helpful [Re: PitcherCrab]
    #27333413 - 06/03/21 06:42 AM (11 days, 23 hours ago)

Nice, hopefully I get some pins soon. Thank you for your help PitcherCrab :bow2:


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Re: First ever spawning to sub, any advice would be helpful [Re: Te0nanacatl]
    #27333421 - 06/03/21 06:54 AM (11 days, 23 hours ago)

those jars

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Re: First ever spawning to sub, any advice would be helpful [Re: coversall]
    #27333547 - 06/03/21 09:41 AM (11 days, 20 hours ago)

Oh, I forgot the specify which jar made it through :laugh:



Out of all these, jar number 5 was the winner (bottom row, middle). 1,3 and 4 were tossed during spawning, while 2 and 6 (for which I thought had the most potential) only managed to grow cobwebs  :spiderrevenge:


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Re: First ever spawning to sub, any advice would be helpful [Re: Te0nanacatl]
    #27333639 - 06/03/21 10:54 AM (11 days, 19 hours ago)

Wow. I’m surprised you got anything out of those!


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Re: First ever spawning to sub, any advice would be helpful [Re: Te0nanacatl]
    #27333645 - 06/03/21 10:59 AM (11 days, 19 hours ago)

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Nice, hopefully I get some pins soon. Thank you for your help PitcherCrab :bow2:




A good light really helps with pinning too. I just did some TOC and TWC and the TOC finished the first flush in 15 days from spawning and the TWC is juuuuuust starting now after over a month of being in fruiting. It all changed once I put an LED shoplight over them a couple days ago. Get something in the daylight spectrum (I use a 5600k bulb) and have it on a 12h on/12h off timer.


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Re: First ever spawning to sub, any advice would be helpful [Re: PitcherCrab]
    #27334525 - 06/04/21 01:23 AM (11 days, 4 hours ago)

I have some LED light lying around at ~6000k that I can put above the shoebox.
Is it good enough to have it shining through the lid, what do you think about something like this

https://www.amazon.com/Govee-Upgraded-Dimmable-Daylight-Adhesive/dp/B07XHLGSXN

I could put this on the underside of the lid, that way it's shining directly on the sub. Is it unnecessary?


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Re: First ever spawning to sub, any advice would be helpful [Re: Te0nanacatl]
    #27334544 - 06/04/21 01:52 AM (11 days, 4 hours ago)

Shining through the lid is perfect. That’s exactly what I do!


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Re: First ever spawning to sub, any advice would be helpful [Re: PitcherCrab]
    #27335874 - 06/05/21 03:16 AM (10 days, 2 hours ago)

The pins have arrived!!  :mushroomgrow:  :mushroomgrow:  :mushroomgrow:



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Re: First ever spawning to sub, any advice would be helpful [Re: Te0nanacatl]
    #27335896 - 06/05/21 03:53 AM (10 days, 2 hours ago)

Nice dude. Just let them do their thing and you will have mushrooms in no time!


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