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DonkeyHodie
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Scaling down a shotgun fruiting chamber...
#27314420 - 05/18/21 11:58 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm going to be building a SGFC, but I don't need a standard size 64 qt tote since I'm just doing 5 cakes at a time. I found a 40qt tote at DG that would fit well in the space I have to put it in.
That's about 2/3 the volume of a standard SGFC, so it has about 1.5 times the surface area in proportion to its volume. Theoretically it should need 2/3 as many 1/4" holes per unit surface area. (the L*W*H proportions are approximately the same as the Sterilite 1928 64 quart tub) A standard 64qt tub gets 36 holes per square foot (2 inches apart) so my math tells me the 40 qt should get 24 holes per sq ft, or about 2.5 inches apart.
Does that make sense? Maybe I'm overthinking it and 2/3 isn't enough to matter.
The 40qt tub has polka dots on it that are about 2 inches apart. I could just drill a hole in the middle of each polka dot and aesthetically, it would look better, and I wouldn't have to worry about measuring anything. That would make it all just stupid easy.
I'm thinking that I might just skip the two rows of dots above the perlite layer, which could maybe give it kind of a chimney affect. I'm thinking it would be hard to have too many holes below the perlite as long as I keep it hydrated. Also, not putting holes at cake level might reduce the amount of dry air coming in through the sides at cake level. I do have a fan in the room, as well as an air conditioner. So the air is hardly stagnant, but neither of them blow directly on the spot where the tub will go. When I blow vape juice vapor up there, there doesn't seem to be much turbulence going on.
Anyway, I just nocced up 5 cakes this afternoon, so I got about a month to think about it. This is my first time doing PF Tek since some time around Y2K. That was a pretty sad setup in a large opaque tub with no holes and the lid on tight (you know, to keep out contams and shit). Whatever I do, it will probably be better than that.
Edited by DonkeyHodie (05/19/21 12:16 AM)
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Re: Scaling down a shotgun fruiting chamber... [Re: DonkeyHodie]
#27314437 - 05/19/21 12:38 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Scaling down a shotgun fruiting chamber... [Re: Goatrider]
#27314739 - 05/19/21 08:01 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Interesting. I hadn't seen that one yet.
I think I still have a big block of coir.
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Re: Scaling down a shotgun fruiting chamber... [Re: DonkeyHodie]
#27314799 - 05/19/21 08:55 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Just thinking. Before you hassle with drilling a million holes  It's prefered by lots of people.
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Re: Scaling down a shotgun fruiting chamber... [Re: DonkeyHodie] 1
#27314937 - 05/19/21 10:56 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Holes every 2 inches on EVERY side: North South East West and the bottom. then you want to put about 4-6 inches of damp perlite in the bottom. Doesn't matter what size SGFC you have, the same rules will apply. But you want to have a chamber equal to the number of cakes you are fruiting so that you can keep the humidity level up. So for 5 cakes I would do a 21 Qrt.
Somedude Mateah and I have had our moments, but honestly I can't knock the Humidity Chamber. It has posted some pretty nice results.
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DonkeyHodie
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Re: Scaling down a shotgun fruiting chamber... [Re: Sockadin]
#27314939 - 05/19/21 10:58 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I can't find one that small that is tall enough.
After reading Mateja's threads, maybe I'll just make a tent out of some wet towels.
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Re: Scaling down a shotgun fruiting chamber... [Re: DonkeyHodie]
#27314965 - 05/19/21 11:23 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you are super worried about it being optimal make a monotub, soak your cakes for 24 hours case with coir, put them in the tub and top fruit. Asking as the tubs pretty full it will keep it nice and humid and you can dial the fae with tape.
Edited by Drboomer (05/19/21 11:24 AM)
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Re: Scaling down a shotgun fruiting chamber... [Re: Drboomer]
#27315049 - 05/19/21 12:07 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I mostly want the most foolproof FC. I have a friend who wants me to help him get started, which is why I'm getting back into it. Neither of us need a lot. We're doing 5 cakes each because that's what 1 recipe makes (2 cups verm, 1 water, 1 brf) That should be enough to get a half oz a month, which is more than enough at 2-3 batches a year. I think he's wanting to try microdosing.
After I get him going with a stable setup, I'm probably just going to fuck around with weird experiments, like a wet towel tent or something.
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Re: Scaling down a shotgun fruiting chamber... [Re: DonkeyHodie]
#27316403 - 05/20/21 01:57 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have used a small sized SGFC with holes on 4 sides (i skipped the top and bottom). Works great for me. Id say go for it.
Lately Ive been using 2 gallon plastic bags as my FC, unmodified. Its been workin pretty great and looks cool
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Re: Scaling down a shotgun fruiting chamber... [Re: DonkeyHodie]
#27316476 - 05/20/21 02:25 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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There is no way to predict yield untill you can see what a culture will do. Cakes especially ime are variable.
If you want fool proof again get a taller tub like the file boxes, put the standard mono holes in it and top fruit. Sgfc are a pain, perilite is a pain, mono tubs are basically automated. I don't think I misted and of my last few grows at all.
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