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Kalypto
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sour smelling tubs after great smelling spawn
#24106324 - 02/20/17 06:54 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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I made some tubs about 2 days ago and decided to smell them incase they were going bad so they didnt get really nasty
Sadly they all smell slightly sour
I assume they are all bad
What tripped me out is that i smelled the spawn before i used it and they all smelled good not sour at all
Could i somehow be fucking up bucket tek ?
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Re: sour smelling tubs after great smelling spawn [Re: Kalypto] 1
#24106332 - 02/20/17 06:57 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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No you can't fuck up bucket tek haha.
Its most likely the spawn. It probably had some bacteria. As long as your tubs don't get moldy you can try to get a flush out of them
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Re: sour smelling tubs after great smelling spawn [Re: mushpunx]
#24106338 - 02/20/17 06:59 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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How am i supposed to identify bad spawn when it looks fine smells and grows fast
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Re: sour smelling tubs after great smelling spawn [Re: Kalypto]
#24106345 - 02/20/17 07:01 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shake the jars, check recolonization-time.
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Re: sour smelling tubs after great smelling spawn [Re: Schemenhaft]
#24106350 - 02/20/17 07:04 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Could soaking my spawn cause any problems?
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Re: sour smelling tubs after great smelling spawn [Re: Kalypto]
#24106397 - 02/20/17 07:18 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Kalypto said: How am i supposed to identify bad spawn when it looks fine smells and grows fast
It can be really hard, very tricky. That's why it is so important to use clean agar cultures and excellent sterile tek
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Re: sour smelling tubs after great smelling spawn [Re: mushpunx]
#24106408 - 02/20/17 07:22 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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mushpunx said:
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Kalypto said: How am i supposed to identify bad spawn when it looks fine smells and grows fast
It can be really hard, very tricky. That's why it is so important to use clean agar cultures and excellent sterile tek
I recently ran low and was using left over not so great agar which may be the problem , my agar very rarely gets contams so i think i have good sterile tek
Ive got some great clones now but damn , everything was going so well with the quick growth times and stuff , real bummer to have all four i made that day go bad , im not feeling very optimistic about all these bags that havent been made of my new better agar
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Re: sour smelling tubs after great smelling spawn [Re: Kalypto]
#24106747 - 02/20/17 09:34 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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The smell test ain't everything. I trust my eyes more than my nose. Got any pics of the spawn?
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Re: sour smelling tubs after great smelling spawn [Re: Dactylium]
#24107427 - 02/21/17 06:48 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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I already did it but I of course looked over it and found nothing but mycelium
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Re: sour smelling tubs after great smelling spawn [Re: Kalypto]
#24107732 - 02/21/17 09:59 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Kalypto said: I already did it but I of course looked over it and found nothing but mycelium
Was the mycelium too creamy/thick? Any wet grains/spots refusing to colonise or smushed up against the glass? Any metabolites?
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Re: sour smelling tubs after great smelling spawn [Re: lovelaughlibs]
#24121241 - 02/26/17 12:34 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Spawned the tubs at 2/18
2 days in had strong sour smell , decided to give it some time
I proceeded to drop my room temperature basically as far as i could with my little AC unit , often hovering around 65 instead of 72
I did this cause ive heard that bacteria grows slower at lower temperatures while i thought this temperature would be high enough to allow to mycelium to grow unfettered , i also put these tubs right infront of the AC unit so they would be colder but i didnt blow air on them
Currently at day 8 now , 3 of the 4 tubs that smelled sour currently dont smell sour and the other tub is also almost smell free but i can smell a hint of it still , this tub i actually pointed the AC unit on to further drop its temp
Just a weird little thing i did , im curious of your thoughts on this
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Re: sour smelling tubs after great smelling spawn [Re: Kalypto]
#24147353 - 03/08/17 08:15 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Kalypto said: Spawned the tubs at 2/18
2 days in had strong sour smell , decided to give it some time
I proceeded to drop my room temperature basically as far as i could with my little AC unit , often hovering around 65 instead of 72
I did this cause ive heard that bacteria grows slower at lower temperatures while i thought this temperature would be high enough to allow to mycelium to grow unfettered , i also put these tubs right infront of the AC unit so they would be colder but i didnt blow air on them
Currently at day 8 now , 3 of the 4 tubs that smelled sour currently dont smell sour and the other tub is also almost smell free but i can smell a hint of it still , this tub i actually pointed the AC unit on to further drop its temp
Just a weird little thing i did , im curious of your thoughts on this
I'm curious about this as I just opened up one of my tubs to a sour smell. Have left them all closed and lowered the temperature in the room
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Re: sour smelling tubs after great smelling spawn [Re: Highzenbergfungi]
#24147399 - 03/08/17 08:36 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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lowering temps might help but I never do that and usually a slightly smelly tub will be fine.
A lot of my tubs will have a slight sour smell, It's ok as long as it's only mild, but it is a good indicator of the health of the tub. I always wait about a week before I test the smell otherwise all I'm getting is the smell of coir.
Spawn can be visibly bacterial and I honestly can't smell anything from it, so I never smell test my jars.
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Re: sour smelling tubs after great smelling spawn [Re: Thedillestpickle]
#24178637 - 03/20/17 06:42 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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these tubs all failed before fruiting
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Re: sour smelling tubs after great smelling spawn [Re: Kalypto]
#24186936 - 03/23/17 06:22 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Did some testing with my sour smell issue and lack of growth. Definitely not contams.
Ended up being an extreme moisture issue. The substrate wasn't wet enough for the mycelium to take. Once I began misting and added a casing of super saturated verm the mycelium took off. So far all bad smells are gone and all tubs have recovered.
Edited by Highzenbergfungi (03/23/17 06:23 PM)
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Re: sour smelling tubs after great smelling spawn [Re: Kalypto]
#27311855 - 05/16/21 09:49 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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What do you mean the tubs all "failed before fruiting"? Currently got this issue going on with one of my tubs.
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Re: sour smelling tubs after great smelling spawn [Re: lastround360]
#27311858 - 05/16/21 09:50 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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homie this thread is 4 years old lol
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Kalypto
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Re: sour smelling tubs after great smelling spawn [Re: monkey_accident]
#27312583 - 05/17/21 01:35 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lol I was surprised to see anything on this , though failed before fruiting to me is a trich contam before fruits
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