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Pinning with one strange, chode fruit rising above the rest. What do you think?
    #27312315 - 05/17/21 09:24 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)



What do you make of this? Strange (worth cloning?) genetics? Sub-optimal fruiting conditions? Trying to outrun a contam? Any input would be appreciated. Here's a pic from a few days ago of the same tub.


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Re: Pinning with one strange, chode fruit rising above the rest. What do you think? [Re: marcus_yallow]
    #27312324 - 05/17/21 09:38 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Surface conditions mate.
They`re 90% water, they need it.
Give it a good fine mist from high above and keep up fae.
Look here to compare with yours.
Just don`t overdo misting now, as they don`t like water sitting on them.

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Re: Pinning with one strange, chode fruit rising above the rest. What do you think? [Re: Goatrider]
    #27312406 - 05/17/21 10:48 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Surface conditions mate.
They`re 90% water, they need it.
Give it a good fine mist from high above and keep up fae.
Look here to compare with yours.
Just don`t overdo misting now, as they don`t like water sitting on them.




Very interesting. I took your advice, but I think I'm getting some mixed messages regarding misting. I was told by a pretty reputable cultivator elsewhere that misting after the hyphal knotting stage would encourage new pins to form and cause the original ones to abort. This person indicated that misting and fanning was largely outdated tek and fanning was almost always sufficient after the initial misting during spawn. Any thoughts on that?


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Re: Pinning with one strange, chode fruit rising above the rest. What do you think? [Re: marcus_yallow]
    #27312410 - 05/17/21 10:52 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Just don`t overdo misting now, as they don`t like water sitting on them.








If you`re conditions were right, you shouldn`t have to do of course.
Mycelium tells you what it needs.

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Re: Pinning with one strange, chode fruit rising above the rest. What do you think? [Re: Goatrider]
    #27312412 - 05/17/21 10:56 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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If you`re conditions were right, you shouldn`t have to do of course.
Mycelium tells you what it needs.




Fair enough. So my real issue was excessive FAE then, I suppose.


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Re: Pinning with one strange, chode fruit rising above the rest. What do you think? [Re: marcus_yallow]
    #27312429 - 05/17/21 11:19 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

That`s a shoebox i guess?
Usually you set them up, and don`t do much til first flush.
As pins move in, you may just unsnap/unlatch lids for some more fae.
No fanning/misting needed, if conditions were right from the start.
if you`re new to this, it`s quite common to give them too much love.
Just look once or twice a day for them, look for the surface and make decisions.
If it looks good like in the surface thread pics, just leave them alone.

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Re: Pinning with one strange, chode fruit rising above the rest. What do you think? [Re: Goatrider]
    #27312445 - 05/17/21 11:35 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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That`s a shoebox i guess?
Usually you set them up, and don`t do much til first flush.
As pins move in, you may just unsnap/unlatch lids for some more fae.
No fanning/misting needed, if conditions were right from the start.
if you`re new to this, it`s quite common to give them too much love.
Just look once or twice a day for them, look for the surface and make decisions.
If it looks good like in the surface thread pics, just leave them alone.




Yup, 6q Sterilites. I did my first couple attempts with a hands-off approach, following the advice I'd read, and I had some issues. I think a layer of CO2 settled on the surface and was giving me these huge, puffy "fuzzy feet" on all my fruits (the squishy snowman bases got even bigger after those photos). I know aerial mycelium isn't a huge deal, but I didn't like it and wanted to dial in my technique. So on subsequent grows I've made an effort to fan a few times a day. But now I guess I've gone too far in the other direction 🤦‍♂️. Maybe it's time for me to move on from the unmodded shoeboxes and make some kind of modified monotub with really dialed-in FAE.


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Re: Pinning with one strange, chode fruit rising above the rest. What do you think? [Re: marcus_yallow]
    #27312457 - 05/17/21 11:52 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, for shoeboxes the wobbly lids provide enough air exchange.
It`s just set and forget.
Everything that gets modified has to be dialed in to your environment.
Maybe you have it very dry there and dial in for too much fae,
you`ll still have the same problem then.
Take this into consideration.

Fuzzy feet are even possible when fruiting open air, it`s not bad at all
and i don`t mind :wink:

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Re: Pinning with one strange, chode fruit rising above the rest. What do you think? [Re: Goatrider]
    #27313562 - 05/18/21 09:48 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)



Update on the monstrous "King pin". What the hell! I guess I'm leaning towards thinking it's some crazy genetic variation now, but I'd love to hear other thoughts.


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Re: Pinning with one strange, chode fruit rising above the rest. What do you think? [Re: marcus_yallow]
    #27313579 - 05/18/21 09:58 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Good bonker there, soon ready to pick :rockon:

Do yourself a favour and clone that bastard.
Though not in a cluster, but looks promising.
Nice pinset by the way :thumbup:

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Re: Pinning with one strange, chode fruit rising above the rest. What do you think? [Re: marcus_yallow]
    #27313714 - 05/18/21 11:46 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Update on the monstrous "King pin". What the hell! I guess I'm leaning towards thinking it's some crazy genetic variation now, but I'd love to hear other thoughts.




Beautiful pin set. Are you growing from multispore? About the monster not sure but I would definitely clone it and take a print too. See what happens next

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Re: Pinning with one strange, chode fruit rising above the rest. What do you think? [Re: Odd Clusterfukc]
    #27314294 - 05/18/21 09:15 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Beautiful pin set. Are you growing from multispore? About the monster not sure but I would definitely clone it and take a print too. See what happens next




Thank you! I will definitely be attempting to record these genetics the best I can.  And yes, this was from a B+ syringe from Sp%*^+#=ks.


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Re: Pinning with one strange, chode fruit rising above the rest. What do you think? [Re: marcus_yallow]
    #27314425 - 05/19/21 12:14 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

No it wasn't, you bought the spores for microscopy, don't mention vendor names in grow thread.

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Re: Pinning with one strange, chode fruit rising above the rest. What do you think? [Re: HerbalSteve]
    #27314426 - 05/19/21 12:16 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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No it wasn't, you bought the spores for microscopy, don't mention vendor names in grow thread.



:whathesaid:
edit and censor dat out my frand. We dont want our friends at an upstanding business to get mistaken for anything but that


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Re: Pinning with one strange, chode fruit rising above the rest. What do you think? [Re: marcus_yallow]
    #27314428 - 05/19/21 12:18 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Beautiful pin set. Are you growing from multispore? About the monster not sure but I would definitely clone it and take a print too. See what happens next




Thank you! I will definitely be attempting to record these genetics the best I can.  And yes, this was from a B+ syringe from *********.




If you want better genetics the best thing to do is start working with agar.
Put the spores to agar and then transfer a tiny bit of the best looking myc, let it grow out a bit and transfer again. The more you do this the better myc youll get but for your first few times 2 transfers is enough to make sure you have a clean sample


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Re: Pinning with one strange, chode fruit rising above the rest. What do you think? [Re: Ashtray161]
    #27314473 - 05/19/21 02:15 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Looks like ya got an early bird.. happens from time to time.. especially in ms



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Re: Pinning with one strange, chode fruit rising above the rest. What do you think? [Re: fahtster]
    #27314479 - 05/19/21 02:28 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Looks like ya got an early bird.. happens from time to time.. especially in ms



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god dude i love every picture you post. im so excited to keep learning and hpefully produce some perrty mush like this one day


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Re: Pinning with one strange, chode fruit rising above the rest. What do you think? [Re: Ashtray161] * 1
    #27314487 - 05/19/21 02:47 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

To get to faht's level you have to have at least 17 different mad scientist teks, including one tek where you seal yourself in a full body condom and do clone transfers upside down.

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Re: Pinning with one strange, chode fruit rising above the rest. What do you think? [Re: Ashtray161]
    #27314614 - 05/19/21 05:33 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Eek! Very embarrassing mistake on my part. Thank you to whoever the friendly censor was who edited it out of my comment before I saw this.


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Re: Pinning with one strange, chode fruit rising above the rest. What do you think? [Re: Ashtray161]
    #27314618 - 05/19/21 05:38 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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If you want better genetics the best thing to do is start working with agar.
Put the spores to agar and then transfer a tiny bit of the best looking myc, let it grow out a bit and transfer again. The more you do this the better myc youll get but for your first few times 2 transfers is enough to make sure you have a clean sample




Interesting... I've already started doing some agar work with other strains, but this was my first B+ grow. So if I wanted to reproduce the monster, you think it would be more effective to start with its spores and do transfers rather than just growing from cloned tissue?


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Re: Pinning with one strange, chode fruit rising above the rest. What do you think? [Re: marcus_yallow] * 1
    #27314725 - 05/19/21 07:38 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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DERRAYLD said:
To get to faht's level you have to have at least 17 different mad scientist teks, including one tek where you seal yourself in a full body condom and do clone transfers upside down.




:lol:  I wish they made an oven bag that big

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If you want better genetics the best thing to do is start working with agar.
Put the spores to agar and then transfer a tiny bit of the best looking myc, let it grow out a bit and transfer again. The more you do this the better myc youll get but for your first few times 2 transfers is enough to make sure you have a clean sample




Interesting... I've already started doing some agar work with other strains, but this was my first B+ grow. So if I wanted to reproduce the monster, you think it would be more effective to start with its spores and do transfers rather than just growing from cloned tissue?




If you want immediate results with that fruits characteristics, cloning is best... if you wanted to isolate that fruits characteristics so that an MS grow would give you mostly that fruits characteristics throughout the grow, you’d grow that fruits spores out and select a fruit that has those characteristics and keep doing that until an MS grow produces mostly those characteristics (phenotype)

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Re: Pinning with one strange, chode fruit rising above the rest. What do you think? [Re: fahtster]
    #27314922 - 05/19/21 10:47 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

No you want to clone the tissue to agar. Even then your not getting a true isolate of that fruit but a closer genetic sequence of the genes present in that big old Chode. And btw that is a big one and nice for an early bird. Hopefully the rest of the pinset catches up to it. That would make a really nice Shoe Box. I would also print it and work on those spores later.

(Edit) Well this was supposed to be a reply to the OP but Fahts got them fast fingers so, :whathesaid:

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Re: Pinning with one strange, chode fruit rising above the rest. What do you think? [Re: Sockadin]
    #27314998 - 05/19/21 11:38 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Update! Veil broke this morning so I harvested, weighed, took my print and agar clone and put the remaining pieces in the dehydrator. 25 grams wet -- not so bad! It was sad ripping such a beautiful fruit in half for the tissue sample, but I'm taking solace in the fact that I'll see more of him when I grow out the clones. Thanks for the advice, everyone.



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