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What the heck is this!
#27311647 - 05/16/21 07:54 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hello! I've been reading community posts for a long time, but today I finally made an account so I could make a post. Recently I've been getting this weird dark grey contamination but I can't figure out what it is, and therefore what to do about it. It shows up suddenly and seems to instantly stall my tub then kills everything within a few days. I've searched all over but haven't found an answer that I feel addresses my issue. Any help would be really.. Helpful! Thank you so much!
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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Phillbert]
#27311649 - 05/16/21 07:56 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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contamination probably trich from what i see.
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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: kanemush]
#27311660 - 05/16/21 08:00 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Toss that immediately and far away from your room. It does look like trich and that's a lot of it. You don't want those spores anywhere near your other tubs.
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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Phillbert]
#27311662 - 05/16/21 08:01 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Phillbert said: Hello! I've been reading community posts for a long time, but today I finally made an account so I could make a post. Recently I've been getting this weird dark grey contamination but I can't figure out what it is, and therefore what to do about it. It shows up suddenly and seems to instantly stall my tub then kills everything within a few days. I've searched all over but haven't found an answer that I feel addresses my issue. Any help would be really.. Helpful! Thank you so much! 
Thats a big ol tub of green mold. Unless youre starting a penicillim/trich farm id toss and restart. Maybe do some refresher reading around here cuz u shoulda known that was garbage mate...
(EDIT: Im assuming you got butthurt cuz I said you "shoulda known." I see how that coulda been taken harshly, but I didnt intended for it to. Ive barely been on this site for 2 months and even I have typed the same 4 sentences 300 times already. I try and find creatively ways to say the same thing ive said to 10 other people so it doesnt get monotonous. I think youve blocked me so youll never see this but we coulda been friends )
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Edited by Ashtray161 (05/16/21 08:52 PM)
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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Ashtray161]
#27311667 - 05/16/21 08:04 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Definitely no reason to be condescending, mate. The photo may make the verm look green, but there is no green. That's what I was saying I have a grey contamination that I can't figure out.
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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Phillbert]
#27311674 - 05/16/21 08:07 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why so much verm? What is your sub? Btw tub is totally fucked no matter what you call the mold. No shame in looking for a name though.
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Half coor, half verm. It's not fully colonised yet. I want to figure out what the contamination is so that I can avoid it in the future. It keeps getting my tubs and killing them overnight. It's baloobas how fast it spreads
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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Phillbert]
#27311686 - 05/16/21 08:12 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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You can avoid it in the future by having clean spawn. Got a pic of your jars? If you're contaming before full colonization it's your spawn. Unless you're doing something funky like prepping coir in an unwashed grain bucket. Also 50 coir 50 verm is a lot of verm. Most use 2 quarts per brick (about 650g coir).
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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Phillbert]
#27311687 - 05/16/21 08:13 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Phillbert said: Half coor, half verm. It's not fully colonised yet. I want to figure out what the contamination is so that I can avoid it in the future. It keeps getting my tubs and killing them overnight. It's baloobas how fast it spreads
Dude, i doubt u even have any mushroom myc in there. Youve got dirty spawn, u need to start back at the beginning. You fucked up from step 1
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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Phillbert]
#27311690 - 05/16/21 08:15 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Phillbert said: Definitely no reason to be condescending, mate. The photo may make the verm look green, but there is no green. That's what I was saying I have a grey contamination that I can't figure out.
If by condescending you mean telling u something u didnt wanna hear then yea I guess I was being condescending. I was actually just tryna be helpful, but take it however u want 
Does it really matter EXACTLY what contam it is? Thats gonna be nigh impossible to tell without proper lab tests. Its mold. End of story. Scrap and try again.
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Julius orange said: Most use 2 quarts per brick (about 650g coir).
speak for urself... lol edit: it's 100% mold, trich probably since its growing prior to myc colonization toss dat shit
Edited by monkey_accident (05/16/21 08:17 PM)
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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Ashtray161]
#27311694 - 05/16/21 08:17 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ashtray161, could you please stop replying to this thread? I'd really appreciate it. I'm looking for help and you're being condescending, rude, and unhelpful. Telling me I "fucked up" does not help in anyway. Please find something else to do with your time. I'm here looking for help. Thank you
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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Phillbert]
#27311695 - 05/16/21 08:17 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Phillbert said: Ashtray161, could you please stop replying to this thread? I'd really appreciate it. I'm looking for help and you're being condescending, rude, and unhelpful. Telling me I "fucked up" does not help in anyway. Please find something else to do with your time. I'm here looking for help. Thank you

Sure lmfao, no problemo. Have fun with ur mold farm. Youre gonna do great here.
Btw, the help ur looking for has already been gracefully given to you. USE THE FUCKING SEARCH BAR IF YOU DONT LIKE IT BEING TOLD TO YOU DIRECTLY. Your tub is fucked and you should restart. I mean nothing rude by that, its just the truth.
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Edited by Ashtray161 (05/16/21 08:22 PM)
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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Ashtray161]
#27311700 - 05/16/21 08:19 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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So, I'm sure I have contamination, but I'm not really sure why. It literally took over an entire tub overnight. I've had many many successful tubs, but only recently this grey mold has been showing up and killing things off. And suggestions, short of binning everything and sterilising the entire room to help prevent the mold?
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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Ashtray161]
#27311702 - 05/16/21 08:20 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Depending on the tub size amount of coir/verm can vary but like julius said, 650g coir and 2-3 quarts of verm are standard for a 66qt monotub. You can easily pour both of these into a bucket and add hot water then mix 20 minutes later and dump it in.
It looks like you put a verm layer on top of the tub which isn't a good practice. You should mix up the coir verm and make sure its properly hydrated (3700ml of water is about standard but depends on the coir you are using).
After mixing in the bucket, you should take about 3 good handfuls and set it aside for a top layer to keep the microclimate good.
That all being said, you should go back to your agar and make sure your cultures are clean. That contamination definitely started with your spawn. Make sure your grain is not overly wet when you prep it and having clean agar plates will ensure a first flush at least.
Make sure you clean the fuck out of that tub with some Iso and try again.
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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Ashtray161]
#27311705 - 05/16/21 08:20 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Phillbert said: Ashtray161, could you please stop replying to this thread? I'd really appreciate it. I'm looking for help and you're being condescending, rude, and unhelpful. Telling me I "fucked up" does not help in anyway. Please find something else to do with your time. I'm here looking for help. Thank you

Sure lmfao, no problemo. Have fun with ur mold farm. Youre gonna do great here.
Btw, the help ur looking for has already been gracefully given to you. USE THE FUCKING SEARCH BAR IF YOU DONT LIKE IT BEING TOLD TO YOU DIRECTLY. Youre tub is fucked and you should restart. I mean nothing rude by that, its just the truth.
You're ah... A really angry dude, huh? You should take more mushrooms 😂
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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Phillbert]
#27311710 - 05/16/21 08:21 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well, isolate that tub away from anything else you have growing related, and dispose of it. Re-evaluate your methods of inoculation and sterile technique. If you have been going straight from syringe to grain, that's your problem. Read this: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27187543/fpart/1/vc/1
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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Ashtray161]
#27311711 - 05/16/21 08:22 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good catch lookintolearn. Totally missed the tub size bit.
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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Phillbert]
#27311713 - 05/16/21 08:23 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Phillbert said: So, I'm sure I have contamination, but I'm not really sure why. It literally took over an entire tub overnight. I've had many many successful tubs, but only recently this grey mold has been showing up and killing things off. And suggestions, short of binning everything and sterilising the entire room to help prevent the mold?
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24420178#24420178 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23130868
All your questions are answered in these two threads. There, now u dont have to take my rude ass word for it.
(EDIT: Btw OP, see how im still trying to help you. Thats cuz even thou I like to use harsh language and joke about, im a pretty nice fella.)
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Edited by Ashtray161 (05/16/21 08:26 PM)
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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Phillbert]
#27311718 - 05/16/21 08:25 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Phillbert said: Ashtray161, could you please stop replying to this thread? I'd really appreciate it. I'm looking for help and you're being condescending, rude, and unhelpful. Telling me I "fucked up" does not help in anyway. Please find something else to do with your time. I'm here looking for help. Thank you

Sure lmfao, no problemo. Have fun with ur mold farm. Youre gonna do great here.
Btw, the help ur looking for has already been gracefully given to you. USE THE FUCKING SEARCH BAR IF YOU DONT LIKE IT BEING TOLD TO YOU DIRECTLY. Youre tub is fucked and you should restart. I mean nothing rude by that, its just the truth.
You're ah... A really angry dude, huh? You should take more mushrooms 😂
lmao ur the one who got butthurt mate. Im sitting here w a smile on y face. Theres no tone over the interenet dude, dont take everything so personally. Take more mushrooms
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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Phillbert]
#27311719 - 05/16/21 08:26 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Phillbert said: Definitely no reason to be condescending, mate. The photo may make the verm look green, but there is no green. That's what I was saying I have a grey contamination that I can't figure out.
Not going to be condescending here. but that is 100% mold. remove that from your grow area asap.
some early stage trich for reference for you.

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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Ziran]
#27311726 - 05/16/21 08:30 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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(edit: deleted. Reason: Possibly against rules.)
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Julius orange said: Don't post private messages ashtray. Bad practice and against the rules.
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Edited by Ashtray161 (05/16/21 08:36 PM)
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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Ashtray161]
#27311729 - 05/16/21 08:32 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Don't post private messages ashtray. Bad practice and against the rules.
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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Ashtray161]
#27311734 - 05/16/21 08:34 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes, I used the ignore button, and saw that 8 other people have already set you to ignore since you joined in April of this year. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be working, as you are still on my thread and getting kind of creepy. I've asked you to stop. I'm not trying to argue, I'm trying to get help, and now my thread more of us arguing than anything else, which is kind of ridiculous. Seriously, please stop commenting on my thread and allow me to get some help. I will not be responding to anything else you say from here on out. Thank you.
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Julius orange said: Don't post private messages ashtray. Bad practice and against the rules.
I wasnt aware of that, fixed <3
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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Phillbert]
#27311743 - 05/16/21 08:39 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Phillbert said: Yes, I used the ignore button, and saw that 8 other people have already set you to ignore since you joined in April of this year. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be working, as you are still on my thread and getting kind of creepy. I've asked you to stop. I'm not trying to argue, I'm trying to get help, and now my thread more of us arguing than anything else, which is kind of ridiculous. Seriously, please stop commenting on my thread and allow me to get some help. I will not be responding to anything else you say from here on out. Thank you.
Youve already gotten help. Your tub is contamed. Youre not a mod, so im not gonna listen to your requests. My answer is no. The main reason im still posting is cuz you tried to tell me not to and I have an authority problem 
I get where ur coming from, I reacted exactly like this when I started posting. Which is why I have so many ignores. Cuz of posts exactly like the one quoted above. Hopefully youll see in due time I wasnt being rude, you just didnt like what I had to say, and thats fine!! Youre allowed to feel that way <3 Your emotions are valid. Good luck with your future grows my friend!
(EDIT: Btw, anyone can go back and look at what I said. I was never tryna be rude, im not sure what triggered this guy so badly but hey, im on the autism spectrum so maybe theres something I said that offended you man, and if so, im sorry it offended you. Genuinely. Youre response to it however, especially trynna tell me where I can and cant post, isnt exactly vibing with meh. So, dont tell me what to do is the lesson here. And your tub is fucked. )
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Edited by Ashtray161 (05/16/21 08:46 PM)
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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Ashtray161] 1
#27311807 - 05/16/21 09:15 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey ashtry, for the newb you are. Might wanna let some people that know whats up help the guy. No needs your shitty attitude or newb advise. Take it back to your all in one thread bud
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Sofaking420 said: Hey ashtry, for the newb you are. Might wanna let some people that know whats up help the guy. No needs your shitty attitude or newb advise. Take it back to your all in one thread bud
I was never once rude, never once had a shitty attitude. Obviously you didnt actually read my responses. I didnt say anything that anyone else didnt say. Yall are the ones w a bad attitude right now. Infact, A) I think I gave him pretty damn good and accurate advice and B) Youre the one actually being rude now. and C) I dont see u giving any fuckin advice, so why dont you stfu? So, no. I do not concede on this one. In this situation, i was not being a dick. I was genuinely trying to help and he took something I said the wrong way and here you come in and jump on the bandwaggon cuz im an easy target as a noob. I genuinely dont care though, youre not a mod and I dont see a TC badge under ya so were on the same playing field bud. Ur no better than me here
(EDIT: Alright well obviously Im the asshole in this situation so I guess ill apologize. If you go back and look at what I said in the first place I wasnt being rude but I guess ill eat someone elses feeling getting hurt even thou I was told to fuck right off with that bullshit when i first got here. Wtf ever)
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Edited by Ashtray161 (05/16/21 10:43 PM)
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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Ashtray161]
#27311884 - 05/16/21 10:19 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Holy shit things getting strange here 
To OP: You thought it came overnight cause it sporulated, beforehand it looks like myc, usually a bit brighter.
We didn`t get to the point how you prepared your stuff yet, so just tell us a bit more about. Possibly your pc cycle was off, or bad syringe to grains? Don`t give up this thread, we`ll find your issue. 
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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Goatrider]
#27311897 - 05/16/21 10:40 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Could be some type of Botrytis. Usually botrytis is found on fruit and some vegetation. Aka tomato or strawberry blight.
Contamination b4 the first flush points heavily to contaminated spawn. Cud even be blended in with your culture so well that you dnt realize your knocking up jars with cube myc + gray mold myc.
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