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OfflinePhillbert
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What the heck is this!
    #27311647 - 05/16/21 07:54 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Hello!
I've been reading community posts for a long time, but today I finally made an account so I could make a post. Recently I've been getting this weird dark grey contamination but I can't figure out what it is, and therefore what to do about it. It shows up suddenly and seems to instantly stall my tub then kills everything within a few days. I've searched all over but haven't found an answer that I feel addresses my issue.
Any help would be really.. Helpful!
Thank you so much!

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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Phillbert]
    #27311649 - 05/16/21 07:56 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

contamination probably trich from what i see.

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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: kanemush]
    #27311660 - 05/16/21 08:00 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Toss that immediately and far away from your room. It does look like trich and that's a lot of it. You don't want those spores anywhere near your other tubs.


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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Phillbert]
    #27311662 - 05/16/21 08:01 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Phillbert said:
Hello!
I've been reading community posts for a long time, but today I finally made an account so I could make a post. Recently I've been getting this weird dark grey contamination but I can't figure out what it is, and therefore what to do about it. It shows up suddenly and seems to instantly stall my tub then kills everything within a few days. I've searched all over but haven't found an answer that I feel addresses my issue.
Any help would be really.. Helpful!
Thank you so much!




Thats a big ol tub of green mold.
Unless youre starting a penicillim/trich farm id toss and restart. Maybe do some refresher reading around here cuz u shoulda known that was garbage mate...

(EDIT: Im assuming you got butthurt cuz I said you "shoulda known." I see how that coulda been taken harshly, but I didnt intended for it to. Ive barely been on this site for 2 months and even I have typed the same 4 sentences 300 times already. I try and find creatively ways to say the same thing ive said to 10 other people so it doesnt get monotonous. I think youve blocked me so youll never see this but we coulda been friends :shrug:)


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OfflinePhillbert
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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Ashtray161]
    #27311667 - 05/16/21 08:04 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Definitely no reason to be condescending, mate. The photo may make the verm look green, but there is no green. That's what I was saying I have a grey contamination that I can't figure out.

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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Phillbert]
    #27311674 - 05/16/21 08:07 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Why so much verm? What is your sub? Btw tub is totally fucked no matter what you call the mold. No shame in looking for a name though.

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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Julius orange]
    #27311681 - 05/16/21 08:09 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Half coor, half verm. It's not fully colonised yet. I want to figure out what the contamination is so that I can avoid it in the future. It keeps getting my tubs and killing them overnight. It's baloobas how fast it spreads

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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Phillbert]
    #27311686 - 05/16/21 08:12 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

You can avoid it in the future by having clean spawn. Got a pic of your jars? If you're contaming before full colonization it's your spawn. Unless you're doing something funky like prepping coir in an unwashed grain bucket. Also 50 coir 50 verm is a lot of verm. Most use 2 quarts per brick (about 650g coir).

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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Phillbert]
    #27311687 - 05/16/21 08:13 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Phillbert said:
Half coor, half verm. It's not fully colonised yet. I want to figure out what the contamination is so that I can avoid it in the future. It keeps getting my tubs and killing them overnight. It's baloobas how fast it spreads




Dude, i doubt u even have any mushroom myc in there.
Youve got dirty spawn, u need to start back at the beginning. You fucked up from step 1


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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Phillbert]
    #27311690 - 05/16/21 08:15 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Phillbert said:
Definitely no reason to be condescending, mate. The photo may make the verm look green, but there is no green. That's what I was saying I have a grey contamination that I can't figure out.




If by condescending you mean telling u something u didnt wanna hear then yea I guess I was being condescending.
I was actually just tryna be helpful, but take it however u want :cheers:

Does it really matter EXACTLY what contam it is? Thats gonna be nigh impossible to tell without proper lab tests.
Its mold. End of story. Scrap and try again.


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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Julius orange]
    #27311691 - 05/16/21 08:15 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Julius orange said:
Most use 2 quarts per brick (about 650g coir).




speak for urself... lol
edit: it's 100% mold, trich probably since its growing prior to myc colonization
toss dat shit :dancer:

Edited by monkey_accident (05/16/21 08:17 PM)

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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Ashtray161]
    #27311694 - 05/16/21 08:17 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Ashtray161, could you please stop replying to this thread? I'd really appreciate it. I'm looking for help and you're being condescending, rude, and unhelpful. Telling me I "fucked up" does not help in anyway. Please find something else to do with your time. I'm here looking for help.
Thank you

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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Phillbert]
    #27311695 - 05/16/21 08:17 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Phillbert said:
Ashtray161, could you please stop replying to this thread? I'd really appreciate it. I'm looking for help and you're being condescending, rude, and unhelpful. Telling me I "fucked up" does not help in anyway. Please find something else to do with your time. I'm here looking for help.
Thank you




:lolwut:

Sure lmfao, no problemo. Have fun with ur mold farm. Youre gonna do great here.

Btw, the help ur looking for has already been gracefully given to you. USE THE FUCKING SEARCH BAR IF YOU DONT LIKE IT BEING TOLD TO YOU DIRECTLY. Your tub is fucked and you should restart. I mean nothing rude by that, its just the truth.


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Please, be an adult. Get vaccinated. Dont use psychedelics as an excuse. Dont come at me with some hippy dippy nonsense, GO GET VACCINATED.
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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Ashtray161]
    #27311700 - 05/16/21 08:19 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

So, I'm sure I have contamination, but I'm not really sure why. It literally took over an entire tub overnight. I've had many many successful tubs, but only recently this grey mold has been showing up and killing things off. And suggestions, short of binning everything and sterilising the entire room to help prevent the mold?

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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Ashtray161]
    #27311702 - 05/16/21 08:20 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Depending on the tub size amount of coir/verm can vary but like julius said, 650g coir and 2-3 quarts of verm are standard for a 66qt monotub. You can easily pour both of these into a bucket and add hot water then mix 20 minutes later and dump it in.

It looks like you put a verm layer on top of the tub which isn't a good practice. You should mix up the coir verm and make sure its properly hydrated (3700ml of water is about standard but depends on the coir you are using).

After mixing in the bucket, you should take about 3 good handfuls and set it aside for a top layer to keep the microclimate good.

That all being said, you should go back to your agar and make sure your cultures are clean. That contamination definitely started with your spawn. Make sure your grain is not overly wet when you prep it and having clean agar plates will ensure a first flush at least.

Make sure you clean the fuck out of that tub with some Iso and try again.


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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Ashtray161]
    #27311705 - 05/16/21 08:20 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Ashtray161 said:
Quote:

Phillbert said:
Ashtray161, could you please stop replying to this thread? I'd really appreciate it. I'm looking for help and you're being condescending, rude, and unhelpful. Telling me I "fucked up" does not help in anyway. Please find something else to do with your time. I'm here looking for help.
Thank you




:lolwut:

Sure lmfao, no problemo. Have fun with ur mold farm. Youre gonna do great here.

Btw, the help ur looking for has already been gracefully given to you. USE THE FUCKING SEARCH BAR IF YOU DONT LIKE IT BEING TOLD TO YOU DIRECTLY. Youre tub is fucked and you should restart. I mean nothing rude by that, its just the truth.



You're ah... A really angry dude, huh? You should take more mushrooms 😂

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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Phillbert]
    #27311710 - 05/16/21 08:21 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Well, isolate that tub away from anything else you have growing related, and dispose of it.
Re-evaluate your methods of inoculation and sterile technique.
If you have been going straight from syringe to grain, that's your problem.
Read this:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27187543/fpart/1/vc/1

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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Ashtray161]
    #27311711 - 05/16/21 08:22 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Good catch lookintolearn. Totally missed the tub size bit.

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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Phillbert]
    #27311713 - 05/16/21 08:23 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Phillbert said:
So, I'm sure I have contamination, but I'm not really sure why. It literally took over an entire tub overnight. I've had many many successful tubs, but only recently this grey mold has been showing up and killing things off. And suggestions, short of binning everything and sterilising the entire room to help prevent the mold?




https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24420178#24420178
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23130868

All your questions are answered in these two threads.
There, now u dont have to take my rude ass word for it.

(EDIT: Btw OP, see how im still trying to help you. Thats cuz even thou I like to use harsh language and joke about, im a pretty nice fella.)


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Re: What the heck is this! [Re: Phillbert]
    #27311718 - 05/16/21 08:25 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Phillbert said:
Quote:

Ashtray161 said:
Quote:

Phillbert said:
Ashtray161, could you please stop replying to this thread? I'd really appreciate it. I'm looking for help and you're being condescending, rude, and unhelpful. Telling me I "fucked up" does not help in anyway. Please find something else to do with your time. I'm here looking for help.
Thank you




:lolwut:

Sure lmfao, no problemo. Have fun with ur mold farm. Youre gonna do great here.

Btw, the help ur looking for has already been gracefully given to you. USE THE FUCKING SEARCH BAR IF YOU DONT LIKE IT BEING TOLD TO YOU DIRECTLY. Youre tub is fucked and you should restart. I mean nothing rude by that, its just the truth.



You're ah... A really angry dude, huh? You should take more mushrooms 😂




lmao ur the one who got butthurt mate. Im sitting here w a smile on y face. Theres no tone over the interenet dude, dont take everything so personally. Take more mushrooms :sheepfucker:


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