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Offlineclipid
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Look what we found: Auckland, New Zealand.
    #2731037 - 05/26/04 05:16 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Hi there first post on the shroomery, from auckland new zealand.

Found these little things at my place the other day. I'm pretty sure they're subs but can't really be sure, can someone verify please?







Cheers!

You can check out www.raiden.co.nz/photos ... there's a few more pics of just some random other ones, i have no idea about. But check it out if you feel the need.


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Re: Look what we found: Auckland, New Zealand. [Re: clipid]
    #2731101 - 05/26/04 06:16 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, they are subs clipid... the bluing is quite obvious, I'm only so sure cause you took/ supplied good pics, showing the 'ghostly' type bluing of the stems, and some very obvious bluing on caps also... they have the "wavy caps" (even the 'young/ little' one in one of the pics) that I've seen on other NZ subs at this site... but technically I shouldn't really give you a positive ID given that you didn't really comply with the 'rules' re asking for an ID... so post more info (read the sticky thread about info' required for a responsible ID request), and I'm sure many more will chime in with a 'thumbs up'...
But IMHO, GOOD FIND... found them in your yard you say ?!? lucky bugger... (and don't eat too many in one go, esp if you have never had shrooms before... take it easy at first ok ?!?) :laugh:


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Re: Look what we found: Auckland, New Zealand. [Re: suboriginal]
    #2731111 - 05/26/04 06:24 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

teheh, my friends yard.  he got a whole bunch last year too :smile:

Yeah, i knew they were gold tops, active,  i just wasn't sure on the genus name.  But thanks for that. 

Yeah, i've had a couple trips.  I want go (too) hard core.  Is that rotten blue one in the last pic actually the same thing?


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Re: Look what we found: Auckland, New Zealand. [Re: clipid]
    #2731116 - 05/26/04 06:28 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, it's just rotting/ dead as you say, so ALL the flesh is degrading and the chemical reaction causing the blueness is evident 'all over' the shroom...


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Re: Look what we found: Auckland, New Zealand. [Re: clipid]
    #2731128 - 05/26/04 06:48 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

haha nice nice suby wuby :laugh:


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Re: Look what we found: Auckland, New Zealand. [Re: clipid]
    #2731129 - 05/26/04 06:48 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

they are the strangest Psilocybes ive seen in a while mate -


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Re: Look what we found: Auckland, New Zealand. [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #2731138 - 05/26/04 07:02 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

really? why's that?


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Re: Look what we found: Auckland, New Zealand. [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #2731172 - 05/26/04 07:49 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I agree with Bolue MEanie on this one. I did notice that the caps are like the caps of PSilocybe baeocystis. They are pleated and knobby in the center with an umbo.

I never noticed the caps on subbs before become pleated. Wavy yes n buyt not with pleats.

Could be a subspecies or an entirely different one.

mj
Very interesting feeatures in these caps. Next time give us a picture of the gills.

mj


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Re: Look what we found: Auckland, New Zealand. [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2731229 - 05/26/04 08:40 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Hmmm baeocystis... never have looked into those, but here's the little I could find on them so far, from a site I've never been to/ know nothing about the validity of... (www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/ pictures/musid1.htm)
Seems a lot of wierd shrooms turn up in NZ... could be them or a subspecies thereof or a subspecies of sub... I WAS too quick to apply the term 'subs' though !!

Psilocybe Baeocystis
Description: Sticky, conical, brown cap with brownish gills and off-white stalk; bruising blue.
Cap: 5/8" - 2 1/4" (1.5-5.5 cm) wide; conical with incurved margin, expanding to convex or flat; sticky, olive- to buff-brown, bruising and aging greenish about margin.
Gills: attached, close, broad; grayish, becoming dark purplish-gray.
Stalk: 2" - 2 3/4" (5-7 cm) long, 1/16" - 1/8" (1.5-3 mm) thick; whitish, covered with small, whitish fibers.
Veil partial veil evanescent.
Spores: 10-13 X 6.3-7 microns; elliptical, smooth, with pore at tip.
Spore print: dark purplish.
Range: Pacific NW.

And an 'unverified' pic they supply at the site, that does resemble clipid's shrooms...



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Re: Look what we found: Auckland, New Zealand. [Re: clipid]
    #2731261 - 05/26/04 09:03 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I find that type aswell, they grow in the hundreds. I'll pick some on the way to work tomorrow and compare them to other subs I find.

They seem to give a different trip, more angle orientated would be the best way to describe it.


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Re: Look what we found: Auckland, New Zealand. [Re: Resolute]
    #2731345 - 05/26/04 09:39 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Can u get a pic or 2 Resolute...?


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Re: Look what we found: Auckland, New Zealand. [Re: Resolute]
    #2731360 - 05/26/04 09:45 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

HEre are two o images of the pleated P. baeocystis from Seattle.






Baeos have the pleated caps and cyans are knobby and /or wavy.

Biut baeos are not in Australia and we must all remember that the genera has certain characteristics found in all species common to the genus Psilocybe. This is but one aspect of that characteristic and it is in numerous specis including the P. caerulescens and Weilii shrooms amongs others.

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Re: Look what we found: Auckland, New Zealand. [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2733747 - 05/26/04 08:31 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Hmmm.. interesting... thanks for all the info guys.

Will try and get some detailed pics up of the gils.


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Re: Look what we found: Auckland, New Zealand. [Re: clipid]
    #2733896 - 05/26/04 09:51 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I've found plenty of Ps. Subaeruginosa with the so called "pleats" in them. Found some yesterday even. I'm 98.7% sure they are Ps. Subaeruginosa, but if somebody wants to check them out I did happen to take several spore prints. PM me if you want one (I'm looking at you MJ and bluemeanie).

oh, but then I am at the opposite end of the country to clipid :grin:


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Re: Look what we found: Auckland, New Zealand. [Re: clipid]
    #2738098 - 05/27/04 08:25 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Nice finds! I like the look of those mushrooms, I pick subs in auckland that look very similar.

very potent too.


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Re: Look what we found: Auckland, New Zealand. [Re: haunted]
    #2745614 - 05/30/04 03:07 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Id say that they are almost certainly still subaeruginosa, just a rather strange phenotype expression.


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Re: Look what we found: Auckland, New Zealand. [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2745950 - 05/30/04 08:43 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

MJshroomer:
Biut baeos are not in Australia




Well firstly, these shrooms were not found in Australia, they were found in Auckland, New Zealand.

And also, how do you know that Baeo's don't grow in Australia, or NZ for that matter? Just because they may never have been officially reported before, in no way means that there are none here.

There are definatley more species around in NZ than what is documented. And this is forever changing and growing. There are some man-made Azurescens beds around the south island, and probably a few accidental ones too. I have heard reports of some unusual shrooms popping up from beds of imported rhodadenndron plants as well.

All in all, NZ seems to be a very habitable land for the psychedelic mushroom. In the lower south island alone there is a huge range of shrooms out there, and definatley a few that don't quite fit with descriptions of ones that are 'supposed' to be here. With a huge variety of climates and habitats around the country (ranging from nearly tropical to complete alpine), I would say that nearly every species of Psilocybe could have a chance at growing here outdoors at some stage of the year.

The thing is, that due to the HUGE amount of variation within the Subaeruginosa species, many people (especially 'amature' mycologists - trippers) seem to just assume that anything that looks kind of subaeruginosa-ish is bound to just be some weird substrain or something. While others will get over excited about a substrain trait and go thinking that its a different species. So it can go both ways.

Basically, I think that here in NZ we need to start doing more rigorous macro and microscopic identifications of the shrooms we find so that we can have a better idea of what's really going on here, and just how far the whole subaeruginosa substrain variations really go. I'm planning on going and collecting some specimens of some different looking shrooms quite soon and getting them under the microscope so I will let you guys know!

And as for these shrooms well who can say really, without a microscope all we could really say from those pics is that it is probably an active psilocybe.


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Re: Look what we found: Auckland, New Zealand. *DELETED* [Re: zee_werp]
    #2755897 - 06/02/04 07:00 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Look what we found: Auckland, New Zealand. [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #3278229 - 10/26/04 06:01 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Three generations or three seasons?


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Re: Look what we found: Auckland, New Zealand. [Re: zeta]
    #3278265 - 10/26/04 06:24 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

subs growing this time of year in auckland? wow.. wish we had that luck still here in melbourne.. i have to wait till later april :frown:


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