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bakedmayfield
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Hellish realization about micropore tape *DELETED*
#27308979 - 05/14/21 08:24 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Reason for deletion: Yeah I wish I'd never made an account and feel really bad now.
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Re: Hellish realization about micropore tape [Re: bakedmayfield]
#27308981 - 05/14/21 08:27 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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bakedmayfield said: This site is amazing and I've learned a ton, had some great early success... didn't make an account, but, uh... just had a moment I HAD to share.
3M Micropore tape is NOT an effective barrier to contamination.
Because I just went to break up a rice bag.
And got a puff of trich spores straight through the tape.
So, uh... yeah, I've seen some people question if it's effective... I'm calling this definitive proof that it isn't.
Got an air purifier running full black in the room right now, hoping I don't die from a fungal infection, and that my other bags and jars survive, and wondering what else I can use instead.
If by "rice bag" you mean uncle bens "tek" then thats your problem, not micropore tape. I dont think this is definitive proof of anything friend... I relate with your mindset, but one antidotal experience youve had doesnt replace years of research and experience collected on these forums and by these amazing folx. 
Im not trynna be rude btw, I had a similar experience when I found out that trich smelled like fresh soil. I thought it was the most important discovery in the history of mycology and I needed to tell everyone right away! Infact what I was doing was likely scarring some newbs who smelled some damp coir and toss a good tray cuz my newb ass was trying to give advice as if it was law. People come here thinking most posts they read are accurate information (at least from what I can tell) so you never know how inaccurate information could negatively affect someones experience. Not saying ur wrong either. I havent had great success with micropore tape as far, but I also know theres 10000 other places I could of gone wrong cuz I only have a few shoeboxes under my belt.
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Re: Hellish realization about micropore tape [Re: Ashtray161]
#27309008 - 05/14/21 08:44 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah it sounds like you’re using uncle bens tek... which was the first problem in that case. there are some posts on here from TCs saying they’ve use a few layers of micropore tape for jars with success. i use 1-3 layers for agar plates & don’t run into contamination. i think the problem here is jank tek & bad sterile technique more than micropore tape itself
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Re: Hellish realization about micropore tape [Re: hazyhorse]
#27309014 - 05/14/21 08:47 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeahbut... the spores passed through the tape.
I just took my first steps away from UB, I'm not upset about losing the bag, but... the spores went through the tape. Doesn't that mean it could happen with any tek that depends on this tape?
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Re: Hellish realization about micropore tape [Re: bakedmayfield]
#27309017 - 05/14/21 08:50 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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it may have been since the air was being forced out of the bag? & really high spore load maybe. i totally understand your thinking & don’t have a direct answer but i can say i use it for agar plates & don’t run into issues, so if it wasn’t effective i think my plates would get contaminated
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Re: Hellish realization about micropore tape [Re: hazyhorse]
#27309028 - 05/14/21 08:59 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I... I guess I can accept that force would make a difference, but it shouldn't.
I'm hoping to be on a proper tek soon, but UB has been good to me. Contamination wouldn't the surprise, seeing spores puff out in a visible cloud though? That scared the hell out of me and now I can feel my sinuses panicking.
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Re: Hellish realization about micropore tape [Re: bakedmayfield]
#27309031 - 05/14/21 09:00 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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TheStallionMang
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Re: Hellish realization about micropore tape [Re: bakedmayfield]
#27309041 - 05/14/21 09:09 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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bakedmayfield said: Yeahbut... the spores passed through the tape.
I just took my first steps away from UB, I'm not upset about losing the bag, but... the spores went through the tape. Doesn't that mean it could happen with any tek that depends on this tape?
Yeahbut nothing! It's you, not the micro-pore tape
Don't use UB tek and definetly don't talk about it here if you do unless you want made fun of
Seriously, that tek sux
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Re: Hellish realization about micropore tape [Re: TheStallionMang]
#27309061 - 05/14/21 09:29 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Depends how many layers you use. But yeah, I've had some luck with MP tape at times and little luck at others. Others have shown microscopic photos of MP tape pores vs mold spores and the MP tape pores are significantly bigger. But that size difference minimizes greatly after applying more than 1 layer
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Re: Hellish realization about micropore tape *DELETED* [Re: bakedmayfield]
#27309069 - 05/14/21 09:34 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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bakedmayfield said: Post deleted by bakedmayfield
Reason for deletion: Yeah I wish I'd never made an account and feel really bad now.
Dang man, no need to take it so personally. We can be a gruff bunch but we mean well and seriously want this to be a place to learn
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Re: Hellish realization about micropore tape *DELETED* [Re: TheStallionMang]
#27309135 - 05/14/21 11:01 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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What even happened?
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TheStallionMang
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Re: Hellish realization about micropore tape *DELETED* [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#27309147 - 05/14/21 11:27 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Not much, the original post is quoted in the 2nd post above
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Re: Hellish realization about micropore tape *DELETED* [Re: TheStallionMang]
#27309149 - 05/14/21 11:31 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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p9hu7 said: What even happened?
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Edited by Ashtray161 (05/14/21 11:35 PM)
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Re: Hellish realization about micropore tape *DELETED* [Re: TheStallionMang]
#27309150 - 05/14/21 11:34 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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bakedmayfield said: Post deleted by bakedmayfield
Reason for deletion: Yeah I wish I'd never made an account and feel really bad now.
Dang man, no need to take it so personally. We can be a gruff bunch but we mean well and seriously want this to be a place to learn
Furreal, if I hadnt learned it was in good intent Id be gone already too. Lesson is, dont come to shroomery to hear what u want to hear. Come here to learn some shit, like it or not son! Lol no but i do encourage the OP to stick around and give it a chance, just be a bit more prepared for the harsh truth and occasional shit talk thatll come ur way lol
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Re: Hellish realization about micropore tape *DELETED* [Re: bakedmayfield]
#27309151 - 05/14/21 11:36 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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bakedmayfield said: Post deleted by bakedmayfield
Reason for deletion: Yeah I wish I'd never made an account and feel really bad now.
I understand that route mate, and if thats the one u take all power to u, but i encourage u to stick around and take the advice without so much salt.
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Re: Hellish realization about micropore tape *DELETED* [Re: Ashtray161]
#27309161 - 05/14/21 11:51 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey bud if you are the guy I sent over from Reddit earlier I'm sorry,I told you these guys can be an abrasive bunch!
They do mean well though but the number of uncle ben's post that get put up are staggering. They are always contamination.
Likely the trich or other contaminates we're in the syringe you used to inject the bags. When you squeezed the bag it pushed the tape out and created a gap between the tape and bag letting out the spores.
I have used uncle ben's bags for spawn but ran 3 layers of tape and used a second transfer agar plates to get a quick clone.if you need any help message me and I'll walk you through anything and find a good writeup to get you some research material
BTW great name the brownies fans sure though old baker was gonna take em to the big bowl. They were dead convinced
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Re: Hellish realization about micropore tape *DELETED* [Re: bakedmayfield] 2
#27309195 - 05/15/21 12:49 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah man, we really mean well!! honestly the community is really friendly, we just tend to not support bad techniques & practices here. reddit is kinda a pat on the back factory that doesn’t actually know that much. i’ve seen some terrible advice given on subs there. i don’t think i’ve ever seen an UB bag that wasn’t bacterial. it can be hard to spot for untrained eyes, but the trich was almost 100% from however the bag was inoculated. i’m sure UB has worked SOMETIMES but the success rate with it is... not great. it’s just better to learn better tek
just do some research on this site & ask questions if you have them, but you also gotta be willing to listen when advice is given by multiple people/TCs etc. also some people can be a bit abrasive on here but as long as it’s clear you tried to do at least some research before posting i’ve always found people to be really nice. i know it can be hard, but even if someone is curt in their response there’s no reason to take it personally. it’s just some dick on the internet & genuinely the community is here to help you
(assuming you ever log back into your account & read this lol)
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Re: Hellish realization about micropore tape *DELETED* [Re: hazyhorse] 1
#27309203 - 05/15/21 01:02 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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In case you're still here and monitoring the thread, don't go! None of this is personal! You can't expect a forum mostly populated by jaded drug addcits (pinch of salt people) to be a 24/7 hug machine. People got shit going on in their lives, better they unleash it in the form of a forum post.
Either way, stick around, thicken your hide, and learn how to grow pounds of mushrooms! Check the link in my sig if you're felling overwhelmed by the website!
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Re: Hellish realization about micropore tape *DELETED* [Re: coversall] 1
#27309208 - 05/15/21 01:15 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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coversall said: In case you're still here and monitoring the thread, don't go! None of this is personal! You can't expect a forum mostly populated by jaded drug addcits (pinch of salt people) to be a 24/7 hug machine.
Oooff, I felt that this just got personal XD 
(quick edit: I hope its obvious im joking here lol. Also, when I reread the thread I cant find where things went wrong? when was anyone mean to him? Was it something I said? )
Edited by Ashtray161 (05/15/21 01:24 AM)
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Re: Hellish realization about micropore tape *DELETED* [Re: Ashtray161]
#27309214 - 05/15/21 01:23 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ashtray161 said:
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coversall said: In case you're still here and monitoring the thread, don't go! None of this is personal! You can't expect a forum mostly populated by jaded drug addcits (pinch of salt people) to be a 24/7 hug machine.
Oooff, I felt that this just got personal XD 
Come now, you should have eaten enough mushrooms to realise there's nothing there to get insulted! 

One of the joys of sticking around here is it can really accelerate the ability to relinquish those parts of you that may have taken yourself a little too seriously! We are all noobs in the eyes of the universe!

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