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OfflineR34
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Past few grows haven't been potent...Any help would be appreciated.
    #27305826 - 05/12/21 02:11 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Hello everyone, I'm a big lurker on the site and have gained a great amount of knowledge the past year and a half. After a few successful tubs, they have all led to the same result... no potency.

To preface this I have had mind blowing "street shrooms" that lured me into the idea of cultivation, I have had a few successful grows over the past year, but my fruits have been seemingly bunk. I have fruited tubs with two different sources of golden teachers and KSSS. After drying them with a food dehydrator, I would typically dose 5 grams and give some to my buddies for testing. I understand that spores are a crap chute of genetics. However is it normal for me to get 3 bunk tubs in a row? IDK if it's seemingly bad luck or what. My initial thought was my dehydrator temp was bad but after researching, that's not the case as many other members are obtaining great results using it. From reading on the site it seems that I need to do extensive agar isolation and test out monocultures.  Should I just try isolating on agar now?

My process of cultivation is as follows: squirt MSS onto agar plate--> wait for germination. After a few transfers I'd inoculate them into sterilized oat spawn prepared via bod's tek. Allow for full colonization then fruit it with pasteurized coir/vermiculite. Fruits have beautifully formed. I would harvest as soon as the veils tear and put them in a presto dehydrator for a few hours till cracker dry.


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Re: Past few grows haven't been potent...Any help would be appreciated. [Re: R34]
    #27305835 - 05/12/21 02:21 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

few hours?

i do 12 hours in dehydrator until snap/crunchy dry.


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Re: Past few grows haven't been potent...Any help would be appreciated. [Re: Green_Hands]
    #27305843 - 05/12/21 02:26 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Green_Hands said:
few hours?

i do 12 hours in dehydrator until snap/crunchy dry.



I can try drying for longer, however I've tried making tea with 40 grams of fresh fruits last week and I felt a little giggly but nothing else. This leads me to believe the genetics are Ass. One thought that arose is that since i've been fruiting 3rd transfers of agar, my genetics are all over the place. This competition may not allow for fruits to be as potent? Not sure if this idea holds any weight :shrug:

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Re: Past few grows haven't been potent...Any help would be appreciated. [Re: R34]
    #27305850 - 05/12/21 02:29 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Don't start climbing up the isolation and monoculture tree until you know you have a high yielding and potent culture to work with. Your dehydrator is likely not the issue either.

Go back to spores and try another grow

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Re: Past few grows haven't been potent...Any help would be appreciated. [Re: tiptrippy] * 1
    #27305859 - 05/12/21 02:36 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

It's rare to get an entire tub with bunk shrooms using MSS, let alone 3 of them. With MSS you deal with thousands upon thousands of genetic varieties and the mycelium will usually be sectioned in a tub, with some genes here and some genes there. So you must be mad unlucky to get a bunk tub.

Maybe you thinned out the genes by doing the 2 transfers and that's why you ended up with bunk genetics (maybe you "isolated" some shit genes) Idk, just guessing here.

It's always easier to isolate genes by cloning i think. At least if you got a potent batch to take tissue samples from.


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Re: Past few grows haven't been potent...Any help would be appreciated. [Re: Trippydippydoo]
    #27305950 - 05/12/21 03:50 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

are your spore sources from the shroomery sponsor page?  They may not be bunk.  Just because they're weak for you doesn't mean I couldn't blast to the moon on half a dose. 

  If you're taking any anti-depressants or prescriptions that can interfere there's not a straight answer reason why.  I can guarantee the source of the spore is the first issue.  Genetics are the only importance when growing anything.  Just look at the secretariat horse.


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Re: Past few grows haven't been potent...Any help would be appreciated. [Re: Lieutenant Pan]
    #27306294 - 05/12/21 08:13 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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are your spore sources from the shroomery sponsor page?  They may not be bunk.  Just because they're weak for you doesn't mean I couldn't blast to the moon on half a dose. 

  If you're taking any anti-depressants or prescriptions that can interfere there's not a straight answer reason why.  I can guarantee the source of the spore is the first issue.  Genetics are the only importance when growing anything.  Just look at the secretariat horse.




Yes the spores are from a sponsor on the site. Not on any medications at the moment. I’ll try getting some new spores and do a new grow with spores From a different source. Haven’t tried any Penis envies or anything yet so I might give those a go. Thanks for the reply!


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Re: Past few grows haven't been potent...Any help would be appreciated. [Re: R34]
    #27306309 - 05/12/21 08:21 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

If you think you might be ready for a super rewarding challenge, try growing some Panaeolus. Easily 3x-5x more potent than cubes.

PANAEOLUS FRUITING MADE SIMPLE

The JCM fruiting chamber is stupid simple and is almost guaranteed to get you pans in your hand and all you have to do is pasteurize manure and casing

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Re: Past few grows haven't been potent...Any help would be appreciated. [Re: tiptrippy]
    #27306322 - 05/12/21 08:35 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I trust the words of the tiptrippy


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