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Re: Taking a new look at the 2nd [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27348971 - 06/15/21 08:55 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

10mm is fine for a bear. Certainly no heavier than a .44


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Re: Taking a new look at the 2nd [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27348993 - 06/15/21 09:08 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

The problem with using a bow for a coyote is that if you don't get a clean shot and it runs you aren't getting a second arrow off before it is gone, now you have an injured animal to track, that is cruel. A semiauto allows a quick follow up shot to be taken if needed.
I have an AR pistol chambered in 7.62x39 that will take a bear just fine and weighs no more than a .223/5.56. That said a 5.56 green tip or hollow point is also going to be g2g on a bear, it iss just that a lot of states require a 30 cal minimum for hunting so people don't use 223/5.56, but it is certainly a lethal round.

Anyways a revolver is a semiautomatic weapon too, so that is off the table according to your original post.

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Re: Taking a new look at the 2nd [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
    #27349046 - 06/15/21 09:43 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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The problem with using a bow for a coyote is that if you don't get a clean shot and it runs you aren't getting a second arrow off before it is gone, now you have an injured animal to track, that is crue




  If your going to bow hunt you have to be ok will cruelty , giving an animal time to die before you start tracking it is routine .  I didn't want to finish it off with my bow and risk breaking a 15$ arrow so beat it to death with a shovel .

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Anyways a revolver is a semiautomatic weapon too, so that is off the table according to your original post.




    It's not off the table , it's better than nothing .
  I'm just trying to explain there are better options  than an semi auto .
  Can of bear spray weighs 10oz , is much easier to deliver in a life or death situation and is pretty much the only thing that will stop multiple bears attacking from different directions  Would you carry a gun if you aren't hunting ?


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Re: Taking a new look at the 2nd [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27349095 - 06/15/21 10:23 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah I am no okay with cruelty, if I have to kill a living thing I want it to be as quick and sure as possible. Beating an animal to death with a shovel is just plain inhumane, the fact you did it to save $15 says an awful lot about the type of human you are.

So no semi-autos but revolvers are a-okay?

Seems arbitrary at best and by extension would allow gattling guns since they technically don't qualify as semi-auto.

You really have failed to make any sort of convincing argument.

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Re: Taking a new look at the 2nd [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
    #27349184 - 06/15/21 11:43 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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Yeah I am no okay with cruelty, if I have to kill a living thing I want it to be as quick and sure as possible. Beating an animal to death with a shovel is just plain inhumane, the fact you did it to save $15 says an awful lot about the type of human you are.




    If you cared about being humane you wouldn't use an ar15 for bear protection , bear spray is way more humane . It's also allot easier to administer in panic situation . You don't have to aim , if your going to spray and pray with with a bear it's better to use spray .

    When it comes to coyotes I can't fire a gun in my backyard I will go to jail . The only thing the city does is post warnings about the overpopulation problem , and since archery is allowed , well ?
    The arrow went down its spine longways since I shot it head on , I wasn't going to get close to it to finish it . You ever try to shoot an animal flopping around with a bow ?


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Re: Taking a new look at the 2nd [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27349202 - 06/15/21 11:56 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

You are really poor at debating, have failed to make a valid argument and are now just resorting to childish "I'm rubber you're glue" type responses.

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Re: Taking a new look at the 2nd [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
    #27349242 - 06/15/21 12:30 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

No , I'm giving you good advice about bears and coyotes , coyotes  have the same legal protection as rats by the way .  Would you kill a rat with a shovel ?  I'm not sure what the difference is between those two animals , other than size and the lack of a facebook page dedicated to all of the dogs, kitties , and  backyard chickens killed by them in my town .  I wouldn't even risk scratching my samurai sword to finish one .

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bear. No deterrent is 100% effective, but compared to all others, including firearms, proper use of bear spray has proven to be the best method for fending off threatening and attacking bears, and for preventing injury to the person and animal involved.



 
https://above.nasa.gov/safety/documents/Bear/bearspray_vs_bullets.pdf


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Re: Taking a new look at the 2nd [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27375498 - 07/05/21 06:44 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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US sees more than 400 shootings, 150 deaths over Fourth of July weekend




    https://kvoa.com/news/top-stories/2021/07/05/us-sees-more-than-400-shootings-150-deaths-over-fourth-of-july-weekend/

  All bad people who deserved it I imagine .


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Re: Taking a new look at the 2nd [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27375956 - 07/06/21 07:27 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Taking a new look at the 2nd [Re: Enlil]
    #27377976 - 07/07/21 05:27 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

I don't know about all of us , I'm pretty sure about Ashli Babbitt though . I kinda wished they had used a shovel too ...


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Re: Taking a new look at the 2nd [Re: ballsalsa]
    #27378932 - 07/08/21 10:07 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

A 10mm is basically pushing it. I would not carry nothing less than .44 magnum but a smith an Wesson 500 would be the way to go for pistols.

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Re: Taking a new look at the 2nd [Re: Mach z 800]
    #27379623 - 07/08/21 06:42 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

That's unnecessary.
10mm is fine.


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Re: Taking a new look at the 2nd [Re: ballsalsa]
    #27379635 - 07/08/21 06:50 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Of my guns my Makarov is my least favorite gun. I don't know if it's because it's Russian, or if it's because 10mm is just a brutal round, but I don't particularly like anything about that gun.


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Re: Taking a new look at the 2nd [Re: christopera]
    #27379655 - 07/08/21 07:02 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

I thought that was a 9mm round. 9x18mm.
Either way, yeah, 10mm is punchy and rounds designed for penetration are sufficient for bear


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Re: Taking a new look at the 2nd [Re: ballsalsa]
    #27379696 - 07/08/21 07:22 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Well... This specific PM isn't in its normal state. My grandfather modified it (he was a machinist) to use a 10mm round because the 9.35mm round was hard to get (apparently?). Which I suppose is partly to blame for how bad the gun sucks. It's been at least a decade since I've fired it. I inherited it and am the third generation owner. Otherwise I'd get rid of it.


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Re: Taking a new look at the 2nd [Re: christopera]
    #27379872 - 07/08/21 09:10 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

That's a cool mod but I could see why it could be uncomfortable to shoot. It's pretty light for the round. Lighter than a glock 20 and much lighter than a 1911


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Re: Taking a new look at the 2nd [Re: Jailbird420] * 1
    #27383661 - 07/11/21 08:57 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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Jailbird420 said:…rifles up to a caliber of ~.306 (the size of this caliber can be debated)




That it doesn’t exist isn’t exactly debatable.

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Re: Taking a new look at the 2nd [Re: ModularMind]
    #27402266 - 07/25/21 11:34 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed




Did this turn into a pro 2a thread?
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Two of my Veprs soaking up some sun


Also how did everyone get the idea that the NRA is pro 2A :rofl:

Gun owners usually hate them because they always compromise and help pass gun control.

Antigun people hate them because they think the 5 million+ americans that fund it are literally Satan

I wonder when they will find out about GOA and FPC

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Re: Taking a new look at the 2nd [Re: bio_alchemist]
    #27402729 - 07/26/21 11:41 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Don't forget about the Liberal Gun Club.


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Re: Taking a new look at the 2nd [Re: bio_alchemist]
    #27403322 - 07/26/21 07:32 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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bio_alchemist said:

Two of my Veprs soaking up some sun







Those ca/ny compliant grips are so fucking weird. It is like someone forgot to cut off the molding parts.

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