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 Trossington
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 ID request - sterile subs? 
#27295099 - 05/05/21 06:13 AM (2 years, 29 days ago) |
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Hey everyone, apologies in advance for the questions.
Was just lurking on the forum earlier and came across mentions of sterile subs on another id request which got me thinking about the specimens growing from woodchips in my garden, as pictured.
The ones in question I picked just now, you'll see the caps are cream in colour compared to its unpicked friends (also pictured) but that is from being positioned in a sunny spot rather than shade like the others and have dried out in today's sun. Wanted to show the picked ones looked like the others as recently a day ago when it was still raining here in Melbourne.
They appear to be subs and pretty sure they are, cap's same colour, bruise like them but what's with the paley cream particularly in the gills and stems? Even the unpicked appear to be the same colour bar the caps. If sterile meaning they are sporeless are they still active?
Any chance they are doppelgangers i should not bother with?
It's worth noting they have bruised significantly darker in the time I've typed out this post. No spore print yet either although sounds like there won't be if sterile.
Would love to hear your thoughts.
Cheers.
        
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 Re: ID request - sterile subs? [Re: Trossington]
#27295126 - 05/05/21 06:50 AM (2 years, 29 days ago) |
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psilocybe subaeruginosa  yes still active
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Re: ID request - sterile subs? [Re: evlyshrooms]
#27295245 - 05/05/21 08:44 AM (2 years, 29 days ago) |
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They may still be slightly immature, put the cap on a piece of white paper or aluminum foil gills down over night with a cup or bowl over the cap, if you don't see anything by the next day, then you will know if they are sterile.
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Psilocybe cubensis data collection thread. please help with this project if you hunt wild cubensis.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=26513593&page=0&vc=1#26513593
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Re: ID request - sterile subs? [Re: Doc9151]
#27295751 - 05/05/21 04:14 PM (2 years, 29 days ago) |
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Thanks willy thanks Doc. Will try to get a print from them.
Can someone explain why some grow sterile, like is this common for subs or mushrooms in general? Is it some sort of defect or its to do with the substrate from which they grow?
My only observation is that the subs I usually pick are from parks or the Bush grow from more heavily decayed eucalyptus wood or pinebark and have all produced spores/prints.
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Re: ID request - sterile subs? [Re: Trossington] 1
#27295858 - 05/05/21 05:23 PM (2 years, 29 days ago) |
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Which country?
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Can someone explain why some grow sterile, like is this common for subs or mushrooms in general? Is it some sort of defect or its to do with the substrate from which they grow?
My only observation is that the subs I usually pick are from parks or the Bush grow from more heavily decayed eucalyptus wood or pinebark and have all produced spores/prints.
They seem rarer in Australa than NZ. Why they do it, I have no idea, but in Auckland I have seen a lot of them.
   
   
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Re: ID request - sterile subs? [Re: Mycoangulo]
#27296040 - 05/05/21 06:57 PM (2 years, 29 days ago) |
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There are many reasons a mushroom may be sterile, environmental factors and genetic factors are probably the most common factors. I find sterile cubensis regularly but usually when the temperatures are very low to nearly freezing.
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Psilocybe cubensis data collection thread. please help with this project if you hunt wild cubensis.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=26513593&page=0&vc=1#26513593
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Re: ID request - sterile subs? [Re: Doc9151]
#27296558 - 05/06/21 05:25 AM (2 years, 29 days ago) |
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Mycoangulo,they are some albino subs you have in some of those photos, very similar to thise in my garden. I'm in Melbourne, Australia, btw.
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Re: ID request - sterile subs? [Re: Trossington]
#27296792 - 05/06/21 09:24 AM (2 years, 28 days ago) |
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I don't think any of the subs in my pictures are albino because they have pigment, just no visible spores.
Some of them appear very pale all over, but this is because they are hygrophaneous in the dry phase. When wet I can assure you all had colour.
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