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Anonymous #3

Re: Alcoholic being a fucking alcoholic. Whats new? [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #27296603 - 05/06/21 06:38 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

5 and 6 are failures

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Anonymous #1

Re: Alcoholic being a fucking alcoholic. Whats new? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #27296618 - 05/06/21 06:52 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

7 is pretty fucking nuts.


Did you hear? He straight up ATE 9.

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Anonymous #8

Re: Alcoholic being a fucking alcoholic. Whats new? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #27296622 - 05/06/21 06:59 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

there three french cats on a boat, they were named Un, Deux, Trois. When they were sailing their boat sprang a leak. What happened? Un, Deux Trois quatre cinq

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Anonymous #10

Re: Alcoholic being a fucking alcoholic. Whats new? [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #27296660 - 05/06/21 07:42 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #10 said:
No, it doesn't.




And by the way, just to clarify, I do definitely agree that there are different qualities of alcohol that range the entire spectrum. Of course. I'm not saying a top shelf liquor, wine or even beer is the same as the low end ones. As far as taste and overall quality goes.

A $400 bottle of 750ml Grey Goose VX vodka is going to be a significantly higher quality of vodka than a $7 bottle of Skol vodka of the same size. Obviously.

But for an alcoholic, the problem and addiction remains the same, whether he or she is consuming Grey Goose or Smirnoff. Or a bottle of 16 year Lagavulin versus Fireball. Or a quality IPA versus Natty Light.

Grey Goose is the same exact proof (80) as a $4 dollar bottle of McCormick Vodka.

This is where I mean there's no difference for an alcoholic. The damage that alcoholic is doing to his or herself, mentally and physically, remains the same regardless of how high (or low) end the actual alcohol they are consuming is.

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Anonymous #6

Re: Alcoholic being a fucking alcoholic. Whats new? [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #27296679 - 05/06/21 07:50 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Liquor will do far more damage than Mike’s Hard Lemonade.  The drink matters.

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Anonymous #10

Re: Alcoholic being a fucking alcoholic. Whats new? [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #27296708 - 05/06/21 08:13 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #6 said:
Liquor will do far more damage than Mike’s Hard Lemonade.  The drink matters.




Okay sure I'll give you that, but does it really matter if the alcoholic in question is drinking 12 Mike's Hard Lemonades a day? That would still be 12 drinks a day at 5% abv. The generally accepted guideline that is used today suggests that men drink no more than 14 per week, and no more than 4 per day.

Fireball is 66 proof. Your average whiskey is around 80 proof. Yeah Fireball is a little lower on the proof scale, but if an alcoholic is taking 10 shots of Fireball a day he's still doing significant, quality of life altering damage.

For someone to imply that an alcoholic who drinks mostly Fireball is somehow a "lesser" alcoholic than one that relies on, let's say Jameson, which is 80 proof -- is really splitting hairs.

The guy who drinks Fireball every single day is still a certified alcoholic.

Edited by Anonymous (05/06/21 08:26 AM)

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Anonymous #8

Re: Alcoholic being a fucking alcoholic. Whats new? [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #27296722 - 05/06/21 08:23 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Alcohol is Alcohol, an alcoholic can kill themself just fine on Mikes Hard Lemonade as they can on 80proof, switching the type of drink is usually the first strategy an alcoholic tries when they realize they have a problem,

maybe they drink liqour, they will try beer instead

maybe they kill a 12 of beer, well lets switch to a bottle of wine

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Anonymous #10

Re: Alcoholic being a fucking alcoholic. Whats new? [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #27296723 - 05/06/21 08:24 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #8 said:
Alcohol is Alcohol, an alcoholic can kill themself just fine on Mikes Hard Lemonade




Exactly. Thank you.

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Anonymous #6

Re: Alcoholic being a fucking alcoholic. Whats new? [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #27296752 - 05/06/21 08:46 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

I have a little experience here.  Liquor will fuck you up quicker.

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Anonymous #10

Re: Alcoholic being a fucking alcoholic. Whats new? [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #27296767 - 05/06/21 08:57 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #6 said:
I have a little experience here.  Liquor will fuck you up quicker.




I also have experience here. I went through a good decade as a full blown alcoholic.

Nobody is disputing that liquor will blitz you a lot faster than Mike's Hard Lemonade.

That's not the point though. The point is, one can still be an alcoholic whether they're drinking Mike's Hard Lemonade, Fireball, or Maker's Mark.

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Anonymous #11

Re: Alcoholic being a fucking alcoholic. Whats new? [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #27299546 - 05/08/21 01:18 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

I thought I was in the clear because I only drink beer.

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Anonymous #10

Re: Alcoholic being a fucking alcoholic. Whats new? [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #27302088 - 05/09/21 08:29 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #11 said:
I thought I was in the clear because I only drink beer.




:hugitout:

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Anonymous #12

Re: Alcoholic being a fucking alcoholic. Whats new? [Re: Anonymous #10] * 2
    #27319881 - 05/23/21 12:14 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Speaking from deep personal experience, you won't be able to stop until you really want to.  I drank at least a liter or more of vodka a day for a long time.  I woke up and drank before work just to make it through the day, then rushed home to get to that first swig of alcohol. I really didn't even feel the effects anymore.....I ruined my life and my health because I'm an addict. I was completely physically and mentally dependent on alcohol to make it through every day of my life. 

Detox was brutal.  One of the most excruciatingly painful and uncomfortable experiences I've been through. The only way the doctor could keep my from having seizures was to feed me Diazepam and then wean me off it over 2 weeks.  Every day I still want to drink, I guess I'll always have that urge.

But I really wanted to stop and I did. I distanced myself from drinking period.  I don't go to bars, I don't hang around friends when they're drinking.  I know every day is another day I might give in to the urge, so I treat it as so. If you really want to stop, you will.  Keep up the good fight and good luck.

Edited by Anonymous (05/23/21 12:16 PM)

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Anonymous #13

Re: Alcoholic being a fucking alcoholic. Whats new? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #27323620 - 05/26/21 08:19 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

You're cool, all right.

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Anonymous #14

Re: Alcoholic being a fucking alcoholic. Whats new? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #27323676 - 05/26/21 09:10 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #12 said:
Speaking from deep personal experience, you won't be able to stop until you really want to.




AMEN...you have to truely be ready and desire to quit COMPLETELY for it to work.  It may be due to health issues, social issues, peer pressure, or just trying to better your life but you have to be ready to put the bottle down forever.

If you're still 'testing' yourself, you're not ready to quit.

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