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First time cultivator! How am I doing?
    #27294585 - 05/04/21 07:59 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Hey all!

I'm new to Shroomery and while I have been lurking and learning for months, this is my first time posting! (Please bear with me!) :smile:

I am a first-time cultivator, thanks to you wonderful ladies and gentlemen! I am using bulk grain spawn following the Broke Boi TEK (Using MSS of GT) and a modified Monotub (66qt) very similar to the one in Spitballs Monotub TEK and have had great success up to this point (NO CONTAM BABY!!! :grin:).

9 days ago 04/25 I spawned my jars to bulk using an approximate 1:3.5 ratio (Wanted a 1:2 but some jars didn't pan out due to slow growth) of spawn to CVG + a smidge of pasteurized cow manure.
When spawning to bulk I mixed my spawn into my substrate by hand and cased it with a very thin layer of CVG to protect exposed grains. (Total sub depth of approx. 2.8in)

Pic of the inside of my Monotub (66qt) today 05/04:







Currently, the tub is sitting at an RH of 99% according to my probe (it could be wet from touching the sidewall of the tub or just defective :tongue:) & a temp of Approx. 75°F.

I currently have the tub on a 4h on / 16h off LED light cycle and am prepared to set up my little fan and timer once I am ready to introduce FAE. (The tub is in my closet.)

The holes in the tub are about 2 inches in diameter and about 1/2 inch above the substrate with similar placement to Spitballs Monotub TEK and are currently covered with micropore tape.

Here are my questions:
How does the sub look, any comments/concerns/tips?
Does it look ready to introduce fruiting conditions?

Thanks! Mush love!

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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Stoned_Badger]
    #27294595 - 05/04/21 08:06 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Dont get used to success considering how you got to this point but good job making lemonade out of a lemon of a tek:lol:

For future suggestions:

Ditch broke boi....(I shudder just typing that key sequence)

Dont "probe" humidity. A proper setup takes care of itself.

Fruiting conditions from the start. In other words, you just have "conditions"

Get agar going, of course nobody listens to this one until a year later and then facepalm themselves.

Please tell us you have a dehydrator....


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Smartattack]
    #27294599 - 05/04/21 08:10 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

wtf is "broke boi" tek? o.o lol

congrats on the knots mate, looks like its about to pin. Id listn to what this guy has to say ^

im glad it only took me 3 months to listen and do agar xD


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Smartattack]
    #27294609 - 05/04/21 08:14 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Hey Smartattack, thanks for your response! I am a college student so my means are limited :laugh: and I plan on getting a proper pressure cooker so that I can start using real grains :cool: !

On the plus side, I have made some agar iso's and are keeping them cold until I am ready to use them when I move back into my place.

I simply chose Broke Boi for the simplicity, the price, and the (what I assume) lower rates of contam due to "lower endospore counts"?

Also yes, I have a proper Presto food dehydrator! No point in doing everything right to ruin your mushies at the end...

Are you saying I should go ahead and introduce FAE?


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Ashtray161]
    #27294612 - 05/04/21 08:15 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Broke Boi TEK uses pre-cooked brown rice and qt jars that are steam sterilized after loading.

Instead of grains and a pressure cooker. Cost-effective, and easy.


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Stoned_Badger]
    #27294614 - 05/04/21 08:16 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I dont think most TCs would suggest a fan, thats an easy way to dry things out. Youre getting plenty of FAE without fkin w it.

U said it was modified so im assuming u have holes in it, thats what theyre for


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Stoned_Badger]
    #27294617 - 05/04/21 08:17 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Stoned_Badger said:
Broke Boi TEK uses pre-cooked brown rice and qt jars that are steam sterilized after loading.

Instead of grains and a pressure cooker. Cost-effective, and easy.




pre-cooked brown rice? like...similar to PF tek but w whole brown rice rather than BRF?


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Ashtray161]
    #27294622 - 05/04/21 08:19 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

The reason I plan on using a fan (Small desk one) is that the tub is stored in a small confined space (my closet) which has very little air movement when closed.

I plan on having it pointed away from the tub to move the air in the closet around.

Thanks! :grin:


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Ashtray161]
    #27294623 - 05/04/21 08:19 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Ashtray161 said:
Quote:

Stoned_Badger said:
Broke Boi TEK uses pre-cooked brown rice and qt jars that are steam sterilized after loading.

Instead of grains and a pressure cooker. Cost-effective, and easy.




pre-cooked brown rice? like...similar to PF tek but w whole brown rice rather than BRF?




Exactly!


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Stoned_Badger]
    #27294624 - 05/04/21 08:19 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

All the experienced growers here get confused when people say "fruiting conditions". You set up your tub and leave it, FAE is there from the get go. Hell I run unmodded tubs ( just tubs straight from the store), mix spawn and sub, put on lid, wait... No holes, no foggers, no micropore, no polyfill, no fans, no mist, no heaters, no hygrometers. Just the loose seal of the lid provides perfect FAE. If you want to get super fancy you can spend .4 seconds popping the lid latch for turbo FAE when things need more.


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Smartattack]
    #27294628 - 05/04/21 08:23 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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All the experienced growers here get confused when people say "fruiting conditions". You set up your tub and leave it, FAE is there from the get go. Hell I run unmodded tubs ( just tubs straight from the store), mix spawn and sub, put on lid, wait... No holes, no foggers, no micropore, no polyfill, no fans, no mist, no heaters, no hygrometers. Just the loose seal of the lid provides perfect FAE. If you want to get super fancy you can spend .4 seconds popping the lid latch for turbo FAE when things need more.



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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Smartattack]
    #27294630 - 05/04/21 08:23 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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All the experienced growers here get confused when people say "fruiting conditions". You set up your tub and leave it, FAE is there from the get go. Hell I run unmodded tubs ( just tubs straight from the store), mix spawn and sub, put on lid, wait... No holes, no foggers, no micropore, no polyfill, no fans, no mist, no heaters, no hygrometers. Just the loose seal of the lid provides perfect FAE. If you want to get super fancy you can spend .4 seconds popping the lid latch for turbo FAE when things need more.




Noted, thanks!

Should I change the micropore out for polyfill already or let it colonize more? Ashtray mentioned seeing hyphal knots which would tell me that I have a developing pin set... Meaning FAE time! Right?


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Stoned_Badger]
    #27294638 - 05/04/21 08:30 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

That picture isn't really enough to go on, but honestly if it got that far, I would just let it be.

2" holes with tape is probably enough. Not to mention the lid isn't a tight seal ( I assume).


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Smartattack]
    #27294657 - 05/04/21 08:41 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Smartattack said:
That picture isn't really enough to go on, but honestly if it got that far, I would just let it be.

2" holes with tape is probably enough. Not to mention the lid isn't a tight seal ( I assume).




The lid is not a tight seal, you are right...

Here are some more photos, one of a near-surface profile shot and one of the entire substrate surface.

EDIT: { PHOTOS MOVED TO OP }

I have the polyfill already and am planning on using Franks's method of dialing in Monos. I am just unsure if the substrate looks colonized enough. I don't have an eye for these things yet.


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Stoned_Badger]
    #27294681 - 05/04/21 09:01 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

It honestly looks like its good. Id let it be but you are free to do as you wish.


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Smartattack]
    #27294684 - 05/04/21 09:06 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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It honestly looks like its good. Id let it be but you are free to do as you wish.




Awesome, thanks so much for your advice Smartattack! :grin:


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Stoned_Badger]
    #27294687 - 05/04/21 09:11 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Smart is a reasonable fella and know's what he's saying :hi:

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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #27294692 - 05/04/21 09:14 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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p9hu7 said:
Smart is a reasonable fella and know's what he's saying :hi:




Seems like it! Also, :hi:


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    #27294695 - 05/04/21 09:17 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Aww shucks... :hug:


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Smartattack]
    #27294721 - 05/04/21 09:35 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

me on the other hand, im a trouble maker xD


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Ashtray161]
    #27294736 - 05/04/21 09:47 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Maybe you are, I can't say. You're on the right track though. You're making progress and that's all that counts. Fuck, even mushboy started rough and look at that old rascal now ; )..just don't give up, and don't be an ass, you'll get to where you're going soon enough.

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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #27294739 - 05/04/21 09:48 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

really?!? mushboy started rough? i have hope after all lol


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Ashtray161]
    #27294740 - 05/04/21 09:50 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Hes still pretty rough but try not to mention it around him.


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    #27294743 - 05/04/21 09:51 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

There's hope everywhere chum, we all got to start somewhere. Myself included. Nobody starts a hero, we all need to be willing to become a fool before we become wise.

Trial and error, and a touch of clean spawn.

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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Smartattack]
    #27294744 - 05/04/21 09:52 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Hes still pretty rough but try not to mention it around him.




Lol ; ).

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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #27294748 - 05/04/21 09:54 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Truth, I totally admit some syringe straight to grain action over here. Worst experiment ever, hence my telling people not to do it at least 17 times daily. Even my friends and neighbors, and occasionally send letters to random addresses saying as much.


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    #27294750 - 05/04/21 09:55 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Hahaha, yeah man. The only reason we can say not to do something is because our noob asses did it 100 times thinking it would work against all odds.

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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #27294755 - 05/04/21 09:57 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I at least bought a dehydrator first thing instead of using a box fan. Then again I shot spores to grain so the dehydrator went unused for the first bit there.:rolleyes:


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    #27294759 - 05/04/21 09:59 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Lol. I had a sgfc with one of those humidity pump things. Noobs got to noob bro, it's a growing process both literally and figuratively.

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    #27294762 - 05/04/21 10:00 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

:lolsy:

RIP OP's thread. Someone get Mushboy in here to change thread title to "smart and p9's chat thread"


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    #27294763 - 05/04/21 10:01 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Hahaha. Sorry OP.you too mushboy; )

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    #27294771 - 05/04/21 10:07 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

im dying right now


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Ashtray161]
    #27294797 - 05/04/21 10:45 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

When I first started I ordered the small PF tek kit from midwest. I didn't understand what sort of conditions the required to grow and couldn't keep it humid enough inside my gigantic SGFC and got super tiny fruits with crap for yield.


Then I decided to get serious. I went and bought a 16qt presto and made my own batch of jars and did a BRF cake to bulk grow.

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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Smartattack]
    #27294839 - 05/04/21 11:34 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, the first time I did a MSS -> Grain didn't do jack... :mad2: Ended up using the same grain jars for another MSS -> Grain a month later, which are the ones that ended up in my Mono! :grin:


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    #27294842 - 05/04/21 11:37 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I enjoying the show  :cheers:


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