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First time cultivator! How am I doing?
    #27294585 - 05/04/21 07:59 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Hey all!

I'm new to Shroomery and while I have been lurking and learning for months, this is my first time posting! (Please bear with me!) :smile:

I am a first-time cultivator, thanks to you wonderful ladies and gentlemen! I am using bulk grain spawn following the Broke Boi TEK (Using MSS of GT) and a modified Monotub (66qt) very similar to the one in Spitballs Monotub TEK and have had great success up to this point (NO CONTAM BABY!!! :grin:).

9 days ago 04/25 I spawned my jars to bulk using an approximate 1:3.5 ratio (Wanted a 1:2 but some jars didn't pan out due to slow growth) of spawn to CVG + a smidge of pasteurized cow manure.
When spawning to bulk I mixed my spawn into my substrate by hand and cased it with a very thin layer of CVG to protect exposed grains. (Total sub depth of approx. 2.8in)

Pic of the inside of my Monotub (66qt) today 05/04:







Currently, the tub is sitting at an RH of 99% according to my probe (it could be wet from touching the sidewall of the tub or just defective :tongue:) & a temp of Approx. 75°F.

I currently have the tub on a 4h on / 16h off LED light cycle and am prepared to set up my little fan and timer once I am ready to introduce FAE. (The tub is in my closet.)

The holes in the tub are about 2 inches in diameter and about 1/2 inch above the substrate with similar placement to Spitballs Monotub TEK and are currently covered with micropore tape.

Here are my questions:
How does the sub look, any comments/concerns/tips?
Does it look ready to introduce fruiting conditions?

Thanks! Mush love!

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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Stoned_Badger]
    #27294595 - 05/04/21 08:06 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Dont get used to success considering how you got to this point but good job making lemonade out of a lemon of a tek:lol:

For future suggestions:

Ditch broke boi....(I shudder just typing that key sequence)

Dont "probe" humidity. A proper setup takes care of itself.

Fruiting conditions from the start. In other words, you just have "conditions"

Get agar going, of course nobody listens to this one until a year later and then facepalm themselves.

Please tell us you have a dehydrator....


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Smartattack]
    #27294599 - 05/04/21 08:10 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

wtf is "broke boi" tek? o.o lol

congrats on the knots mate, looks like its about to pin. Id listn to what this guy has to say ^

im glad it only took me 3 months to listen and do agar xD


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Smartattack]
    #27294609 - 05/04/21 08:14 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Hey Smartattack, thanks for your response! I am a college student so my means are limited :laugh: and I plan on getting a proper pressure cooker so that I can start using real grains :cool: !

On the plus side, I have made some agar iso's and are keeping them cold until I am ready to use them when I move back into my place.

I simply chose Broke Boi for the simplicity, the price, and the (what I assume) lower rates of contam due to "lower endospore counts"?

Also yes, I have a proper Presto food dehydrator! No point in doing everything right to ruin your mushies at the end...

Are you saying I should go ahead and introduce FAE?


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Ashtray161]
    #27294612 - 05/04/21 08:15 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Broke Boi TEK uses pre-cooked brown rice and qt jars that are steam sterilized after loading.

Instead of grains and a pressure cooker. Cost-effective, and easy.


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Stoned_Badger]
    #27294614 - 05/04/21 08:16 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I dont think most TCs would suggest a fan, thats an easy way to dry things out. Youre getting plenty of FAE without fkin w it.

U said it was modified so im assuming u have holes in it, thats what theyre for


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Stoned_Badger]
    #27294617 - 05/04/21 08:17 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Stoned_Badger said:
Broke Boi TEK uses pre-cooked brown rice and qt jars that are steam sterilized after loading.

Instead of grains and a pressure cooker. Cost-effective, and easy.




pre-cooked brown rice? like...similar to PF tek but w whole brown rice rather than BRF?


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Ashtray161]
    #27294622 - 05/04/21 08:19 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

The reason I plan on using a fan (Small desk one) is that the tub is stored in a small confined space (my closet) which has very little air movement when closed.

I plan on having it pointed away from the tub to move the air in the closet around.

Thanks! :grin:


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Ashtray161]
    #27294623 - 05/04/21 08:19 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Ashtray161 said:
Quote:

Stoned_Badger said:
Broke Boi TEK uses pre-cooked brown rice and qt jars that are steam sterilized after loading.

Instead of grains and a pressure cooker. Cost-effective, and easy.




pre-cooked brown rice? like...similar to PF tek but w whole brown rice rather than BRF?




Exactly!


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Stoned_Badger]
    #27294624 - 05/04/21 08:19 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

All the experienced growers here get confused when people say "fruiting conditions". You set up your tub and leave it, FAE is there from the get go. Hell I run unmodded tubs ( just tubs straight from the store), mix spawn and sub, put on lid, wait... No holes, no foggers, no micropore, no polyfill, no fans, no mist, no heaters, no hygrometers. Just the loose seal of the lid provides perfect FAE. If you want to get super fancy you can spend .4 seconds popping the lid latch for turbo FAE when things need more.


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Smartattack]
    #27294628 - 05/04/21 08:23 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Smartattack said:
All the experienced growers here get confused when people say "fruiting conditions". You set up your tub and leave it, FAE is there from the get go. Hell I run unmodded tubs ( just tubs straight from the store), mix spawn and sub, put on lid, wait... No holes, no foggers, no micropore, no polyfill, no fans, no mist, no heaters, no hygrometers. Just the loose seal of the lid provides perfect FAE. If you want to get super fancy you can spend .4 seconds popping the lid latch for turbo FAE when things need more.



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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Smartattack]
    #27294630 - 05/04/21 08:23 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Smartattack said:
All the experienced growers here get confused when people say "fruiting conditions". You set up your tub and leave it, FAE is there from the get go. Hell I run unmodded tubs ( just tubs straight from the store), mix spawn and sub, put on lid, wait... No holes, no foggers, no micropore, no polyfill, no fans, no mist, no heaters, no hygrometers. Just the loose seal of the lid provides perfect FAE. If you want to get super fancy you can spend .4 seconds popping the lid latch for turbo FAE when things need more.




Noted, thanks!

Should I change the micropore out for polyfill already or let it colonize more? Ashtray mentioned seeing hyphal knots which would tell me that I have a developing pin set... Meaning FAE time! Right?


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Stoned_Badger]
    #27294638 - 05/04/21 08:30 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

That picture isn't really enough to go on, but honestly if it got that far, I would just let it be.

2" holes with tape is probably enough. Not to mention the lid isn't a tight seal ( I assume).


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Smartattack]
    #27294657 - 05/04/21 08:41 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Smartattack said:
That picture isn't really enough to go on, but honestly if it got that far, I would just let it be.

2" holes with tape is probably enough. Not to mention the lid isn't a tight seal ( I assume).




The lid is not a tight seal, you are right...

Here are some more photos, one of a near-surface profile shot and one of the entire substrate surface.

EDIT: { PHOTOS MOVED TO OP }

I have the polyfill already and am planning on using Franks's method of dialing in Monos. I am just unsure if the substrate looks colonized enough. I don't have an eye for these things yet.


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Stoned_Badger]
    #27294681 - 05/04/21 09:01 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

It honestly looks like its good. Id let it be but you are free to do as you wish.


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Smartattack]
    #27294684 - 05/04/21 09:06 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Smartattack said:
It honestly looks like its good. Id let it be but you are free to do as you wish.




Awesome, thanks so much for your advice Smartattack! :grin:


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Stoned_Badger]
    #27294687 - 05/04/21 09:11 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Smart is a reasonable fella and know's what he's saying :hi:

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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #27294692 - 05/04/21 09:14 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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p9hu7 said:
Smart is a reasonable fella and know's what he's saying :hi:




Seems like it! Also, :hi:


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    #27294695 - 05/04/21 09:17 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Aww shucks... :hug:


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Re: First time cultivator! How am I doing? [Re: Smartattack]
    #27294721 - 05/04/21 09:35 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

me on the other hand, im a trouble maker xD


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