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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: LizardWizard]
    #27286744 - 04/29/21 05:15 PM (9 days, 17 hours ago)

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So I dont know shit about growing cannabis outdoors. I've only had indoor grows. I really want to try a clone outside this year but I'm afraid of the "EYE".
I live in a town with neighbors on 2 sides. I do have privacy fence so its possible. I grew poppies last year successfully.

Anyway to mask the smell outdoors?





And I don't know shit about growing cannabis indoors lol.

I'm not aware of any way to cover the smell of cannabis outdoors. Perhaps find a strain that's relatively low odor (tho my personal preference, I'm always trying to find the strains that stink the most lol).

So you reside in one of the few states where growing this plant is still a big concern? That's a bummmer...I see federal legalization happening in the next few years though.

My entire neighborhood reeeks like dank during the spring & summer & fall lol. I already smell it and have been for about a month now lol (I'm assuming people are doing early season light dep grows).


Wouldn't be hard to grow a small plant outdoors low key though, keeping it bent & trained down low. And they really only stink the most during the peak of flowering.

I can understand the concern though if you live in a state where the plant is still 100% illegal in every way and have neighbors right next door.




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Yeah Humboldt Seed Co is the breeder they're from. First autoflower seeds I've seen for sale on the government site here.





I totally forgot you're "up there" lol.

That's interesting to hear though, that their seeds/genetics are being sold up there through the official government sites. Cool!

Can you post a link to the site?...I'm not trying to get anything and obviously can't since I'm not in the country lol, I'm just curious what the site is like, what the menu/selections are like, etc.





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No, I haven't, first time. I've smoked the mango haze from mr nice before though. (parental line)





Cool! Are there any distinct aromas coming from your Mango Smile yet?

It's been so long since I've seen/smelled/smoked anything "haze". In my early days of smoking I was all about haze strains, Silver Haze was one of my first "favorite" strains lol .

And though it is an "auto", Mango Smile will be the most sativa/haze based genetics I've grown so far. Even tho it's an auto, from what I gather the plant is still very much a sativa in its structure/form and cannabinoid/terp profile and the high it produces.

I'm really looking forward to growing/smoking it. In the future I'm definitely trying to grow some strains that lean more to the sativa/haze side of things. It's cool that haze/sativa genetics are being worked to flower auto instead of photo, makes it possible to grow sativas in such a shorter amount of time. People with short summers/grow season will be able to grow em'.


I have also yet to grow anything that's straight up classic "kush" or "OG"...With classic pine, skunk, kush, earth, fuel notes...So I'm looking forward to growing the Skywalker.

And same with the CDLC...I haven't grown anything straight up "chemmy", and a prized cut of Stardawg is the mother of the Creme de la Chem.


I'm also looking forward to seeing what freebies I get!




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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: LizardWizard]
    #27286750 - 04/29/21 05:24 PM (9 days, 17 hours ago)

Lol I was gonna do some outside too until I decided it’s not worth the risk with the smell that it would put off. Especially with the mush cult stuff going on too it’s just not smart.


Keeping them out of site is easy but that stink is too much.


It’s perfect too cuz my dog dug this hole that’s 3x2’ and close to 3’ deep. I was just gonna drop a 5 gallon pot in there and put some ferns or something around the hole.


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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: openmind]
    #27286786 - 04/29/21 05:48 PM (9 days, 16 hours ago)

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Yeah Humboldt Seed Co is the breeder they're from. First autoflower seeds I've seen for sale on the government site here.





I totally forgot you're "up there" lol.

That's interesting to hear though, that their seeds/genetics are being sold up there through the official government sites. Cool!

Can you post a link to the site?...I'm not trying to get anything and obviously can't since I'm not in the country lol, I'm just curious what the site is like, what the menu/selections are like, etc.




I think it may break the EG rules for me to link it here but I can PM you the listing. In Ontario the province is the wholesaler to private stores and sells the same products online. The legal market for recreational seeds is just what they decide to sell (and is presumably dwarfed by the black market in sales). For quite a while they only had two strains listed. Finally there is getting to be more variety now. They could sell clones too but they don't.


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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: A.k.a]
    #27286876 - 04/29/21 07:05 PM (9 days, 15 hours ago)

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I think it may break the EG rules for me to link it here but I can PM you the listing. In Ontario the province is the wholesaler to private stores and sells the same products online. The legal market for recreational seeds is just what they decide to sell (and is presumably dwarfed by the black market in sales). For quite a while they only had two strains listed. Finally there is getting to be more variety now. They could sell clones too but they don't.





I forgot about that in this particular forum.

Got your PM tho.

Yea I've wondered how that all works up there. I've heard a bit about that. Also heard about how there were only those two strains available for a while.

There's only a small handful of licensed cultivators up there that produces everything, right? Or the government does all the growing entirely? Same with actual walk in stores?

Or can citizens open up their own stores & start their own cannabis cultivation business with licenses and permits & what not from the government?

I haven't actually looked into how it works up there.




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Lol I was gonna do some outside too until I decided it’s not worth the risk with the smell that it would put off. Especially with the mush cult stuff going on too it’s just not smart.


Keeping them out of site is easy but that stink is too much.


It’s perfect too cuz my dog dug this hole that’s 3x2’ and close to 3’ deep. I was just gonna drop a 5 gallon pot in there and put some ferns or something around the hole.





Yea if I wasn't in a state/area where growing a plant or two isn't legal or decriminalized and also had some fungi growing I too wouldn't bother with it.

Times are changing though! In a few parts of the country growing one's own cannabis and own mushrooms for personal use isn't something that will get ya caught up in anyway.





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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: openmind]
    #27287232 - 04/30/21 12:08 AM (9 days, 10 hours ago)

I'm going to check sister site, growery


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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #27287294 - 04/30/21 01:10 AM (9 days, 9 hours ago)

I believe I registered on growery and never went back. So cozy here.


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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: Quirkmeister92]
    #27287749 - 04/30/21 01:08 PM (8 days, 21 hours ago)

Yeah I check it out. I'm on there. I think i will create a thread topic on there if anyone wants to try it out. I'm Gr8ful frodo on there.
I'll make a training post. We can all share how we train our plants or something.

This post still wont show up in my thread. I have to search it every time


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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #27291749 - 05/03/21 11:51 AM (5 days, 22 hours ago)

I put my plants in a container outside this weekend and it will be in the high 30's for a night or two in the next week, maybe tonight only. Will they make it here in CO? Not too worried really. I got 4 plants to sprout out of 15 (old) seeds. Popped up about 2 weeks ago. If I get at least one female I'll be happy. Hopefully all 4.


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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #27291991 - 05/03/21 02:40 PM (5 days, 19 hours ago)

Yeah I finally took all my san pedro and other torches outside


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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #27292052 - 05/03/21 03:29 PM (5 days, 19 hours ago)

I can’t wait to flower these. Really hope I don’t get more than one or two males.





I have no idea how big they’ll end up but I figure I’d rather have them too big and cut them back than too small.

I’m thinking maybe two more weeks. Should be able to do the last top for the manifold in a day or two.


Also I have no idea if the fim on the middle plant worked. So far it just looks like mutilated leaves :lol:


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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: A.k.a]
    #27293629 - 05/04/21 11:40 AM (4 days, 22 hours ago)

It completely failed. You want to cut a little further down. Looks like you cut at the top, at like 1/3 of the shoot, should have cut at or just under 2/3.


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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: LizardWizard]
    #27293747 - 05/04/21 12:38 PM (4 days, 21 hours ago)

Yeah I figured something wasn’t right. I cut really low like the guides say but I’ll try lower next time.


This is right when I did it.




When it works the secondary branches on the two nodes that get cut should turn into mains right?

Idk what the deal is but nobody seems to know anything about fimming. On the weed sites I’m on they keep saying it’s a good fim and supposed to look like this but there’s no way. It’s not even bushing out like the ones I topped.


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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: A.k.a] * 2
    #27293826 - 05/04/21 01:23 PM (4 days, 21 hours ago)

Try topping while inebriated and maybe you'll FIM :shrug:


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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: Quirkmeister92]
    #27293836 - 05/04/21 01:29 PM (4 days, 21 hours ago)

lol it’s also weird to me that enough people fucked up topping that it got it’s own name. Topping is super easy I just don’t see how it’s so common to miss unless you’re trying to top asap and it’s just a little nub in the middle still.


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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: A.k.a]
    #27293952 - 05/04/21 02:50 PM (4 days, 19 hours ago)

Well, basically here's what happens when you fim the right way:

Imagine you topped a plant. Now it lacks a new shoot, instead has 2 big leaves on top of the plant, with 2 little sprouts coming from their "armpits".

Now let's imagine that shoot you have just cut off in detail. It's really just 2 leaves folded firmly against 2 more leaves, folded firmly against 2 more leaves, folder firmly against 2 leaves; inside every armpit sits a sprout for a new shoot.

When you fimmed, you have cut away the shoots' outer leaves folded firmly against all the other inner leaves, but you didn't cut off the leaves' stems, so you also left the sprouts for the new shoots coming from their armpits. Those 2 shoots, and maybe the ones above those if you left them (and maybe the ones below as well cause they will receive more energy during the time the shoots need to repair), will now all form into somewhat equally sized buds.


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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: LizardWizard]
    #27294092 - 05/04/21 04:17 PM (4 days, 18 hours ago)

what's the benefit of FIMing versus just topping? i've read that FIMing doesn't control height at all & seems to do what a simple topping does. i've never FIMed because of that

i always thought it was kinda hilarious that it evolved into it's own method & acronym too. like it was a common enough occurrence to warrant its own category lol


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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: hazyhorse]
    #27294138 - 05/04/21 04:43 PM (4 days, 17 hours ago)

Supposedly you can get 3-6 or some people claimed 8 or 9 main shoots instead of 2 from topping. Also it’s supposed to make it bush out more than topping too. Lotta big claims with fimming lol.

I just topped that failed fim plant.


I did try a new fim on a different one and cut it as low as possible. Instead of a little tuft of leaves it’s kinda just four stem nubs this time.


What I don’t get is every fim guide I check looks exactly like mine. It’s like the plant just decided not to cooperate lol.


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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: A.k.a]
    #27294141 - 05/04/21 04:46 PM (4 days, 17 hours ago)

interesting. i mean, 9 main shoots sounds pretty dope but maybe a little overblown? curious to see how the next one turns out


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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: hazyhorse]
    #27294170 - 05/04/21 05:05 PM (4 days, 17 hours ago)

Fim guides really suck balls tbh. I only found out how to get it to work properly by simply thinking about it and then trying it out several times. Even when you do what I said though, the plant won't always choose to use those nodes to their full potential. If it fails like yours and the top recovers too quickly and there's no energy to divert towards the side branches, I sometimes choose to simply do the surgery again afterwards, cutting away what should have been cut before, maybe even trimming or pinching some leaf additionally to increase the time the shoots need to recover so the side branches do decide to develop more.

It's really just steering it's energy by blocking some channels.


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Re: Hanging Gardens [Re: LizardWizard] * 1
    #27294177 - 05/04/21 05:14 PM (4 days, 17 hours ago)

Planted around the 9-15th of April. I actually have 4, one sprouted a few days after this pic. Going with only 4 this round.


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