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cicer0
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Alternative to pressure cooking jars for inoculation?
#27291284 - 05/03/21 12:23 AM (3 years, 16 days ago) |
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I don't have a pressure cooker at my disposal I've done some reading around and have came to the conclusion I need to buy one. I'm just wondering if I'll have any success if I don't pasteurize my jars?
I'm using wheat seeds, and figure if I use a SAB and use boiling water I'll be okay. But I feel even then I would have no success. So, is there an alternative to pressure cooking that works?
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Re: Alternative to pressure cooking jars for inoculation? [Re: cicer0] 1
#27291322 - 05/03/21 01:19 AM (3 years, 16 days ago) |
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you can steam sterilize brf jars for sure.
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Re: Alternative to pressure cooking jars for inoculation? [Re: kanemush]
#27291324 - 05/03/21 01:25 AM (3 years, 16 days ago) |
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Boiled water won't help even if you're using 100% sterile conditions. The grain is full of endospores that won't die because of boiling water.
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Re: Alternative to pressure cooking jars for inoculation? [Re: DERRAYLD] 1
#27291343 - 05/03/21 02:08 AM (3 years, 16 days ago) |
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If Steam Sterilization is the only option, I'd reccomend using brown rice flour substrate.
Edited by ScientificAnalysis (05/03/21 02:08 AM)
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Re: Alternative to pressure cooking jars for inoculation? [Re: ScientificAnalysis]
#27291362 - 05/03/21 03:12 AM (3 years, 16 days ago) |
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It is hard to understand what BRF this is and that is. There is a method, called PF tek. That DON'T not use a pressure cooker with 100% success rate. You simply "perform a Hot water bath and boil the water at the bottom and let it get steamy and hot. THIS WORK AND IS NOT SOME SHITTY METHOD thats the whole point of PF tek.
Any glass will work for a cotaineer all you need is BRF VERM WATER Glass cup a foil and spores THATS FUCKING it. not a single thing extra or more. Dont go buy nothing new. dont need a PC just shit out 3-5 pf teks rounds and get some experience under your belt. Also let go your need or want to do BULK method its for advanced wanna e try hards that dont realize PF tek shits enough mushrooms with less effort.
PF TEK IS THE ONLY METHOD WHERE THE TRUSTED CULTIVATORS WILL AGREE THAT STEAM WATER BATH CANNING WITH NO PC can be up to 100% effective on BROUWN RICE FLOUR CAKES. That and some shitty popkorn teks maybe.
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Re: Alternative to pressure cooking jars for inoculation? [Re: TigerStrike] 1
#27291365 - 05/03/21 03:17 AM (3 years, 16 days ago) |
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you can 100% steam sterilize anything. time becomes the determining factor.
would you rather buy a pc? or steam grain jars for ~10hrs? brf is different because its not a cereal grain. you can steam brf cakes for 2hrs rock out all day.
if you want to do anything more than growing an eight? get a pc pronto. also dont confuse pasteurization with steam sterilization.
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Re: Alternative to pressure cooking jars for inoculation? [Re: mushboy]
#27291417 - 05/03/21 04:12 AM (3 years, 16 days ago) |
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BS. an eighth. Here is that bulk drumming in the background by the TC's I told you about. Beware. Don't buy a thing but spores make some mushrooms, see if you want to spend 200$ more after. Do I own 3 flow hoods and 5 pressure cookers yes i do so i am a believer and you may get to that point too, just dont buy a PC to put it in your pants to make your dick look big like I did. And they are importat for sterile work. Fuck yes but I wish I hadn;t and just did pf tek. I literally flushed a GALLON bagie down the toilet after a few pf teks I couldnt eat them all.
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Re: Alternative to pressure cooking jars for inoculation? [Re: TigerStrike]
#27291421 - 05/03/21 04:19 AM (3 years, 16 days ago) |
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Re: Alternative to pressure cooking jars for inoculation? [Re: mushboy]
#27291425 - 05/03/21 04:24 AM (3 years, 16 days ago) |
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It means you just used language to completely put down PF tek and make a noob feel stupid for even considering trying and misrepresented the potential powerful harvest. Which in my book is considered falsetelling.
Same thing your pear is designed to do also. Also the reason Asante is wondering why the participating and ratings are down.
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Re: Alternative to pressure cooking jars for inoculation? [Re: TigerStrike]
#27291426 - 05/03/21 04:28 AM (3 years, 16 days ago) |
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Wtf are you talking about?
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TigerStrike said: Also let go your need or want to do BULK method its for advanced wanna e try hards that dont realize PF tek shits enough mushrooms with less effort.
That's a false statement. Whatever beef you have with whoever please take it elsewhere.
Pf tek is great. I love pf tek. But after awhile of pf tek you'll want a pc. Trust me.
That's all I said. Chill out dude.
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Re: Alternative to pressure cooking jars for inoculation? [Re: mushboy]
#27291483 - 05/03/21 05:50 AM (3 years, 16 days ago) |
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I've got better things to do with my life than babysit a dozen jars being steamed all day. Like Mushboy said it will work, but it's far from efficient...you WILL want a PC if you stick around this hobby any length of time. Don't be scare of the word bulk either...any extra that you don't want can always be made into chocolates/gummies or flushed down the toiled if you hate your water district/plumbers.
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Re: Alternative to pressure cooking jars for inoculation? [Re: PBJ710]
#27291485 - 05/03/21 05:53 AM (3 years, 16 days ago) |
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Bulk taught me that the more I interact the worse things can go. Cubes are weeds. They grow no matter how hard the inner noob self sabotages. But with bulk you minimize your involvement and then I really watched mushrooms grow.
Some plastic. Some proper airflow and proper amounts of water with clean grain spawn. Everything else becomes superfluous.
For me? That's why bulk over pf or other more user involved methods(vtek for example)
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Re: Alternative to pressure cooking jars for inoculation? [Re: mushboy]
#27291498 - 05/03/21 06:13 AM (3 years, 16 days ago) |
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Like when Tony Stark was imprisoned and built his iron man suit with an old vhs and some duct tape, I guess if you are experienced bulk or agar or pf tek or anything is just as easy to do with nothing or close to nothing/free in stye style of jailed tony stark. I just grew up pf tekking. I may be unfairly bias toward it. A hobby is just that. Expensive fun thing you do with cool toys and stuff.
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Re: Alternative to pressure cooking jars for inoculation? [Re: TigerStrike]
#27291509 - 05/03/21 06:33 AM (3 years, 16 days ago) |
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i grew up pf tekking as well
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Re: Alternative to pressure cooking jars for inoculation? [Re: TigerStrike]
#27291542 - 05/03/21 07:10 AM (3 years, 16 days ago) |
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LOl I think we are all in agreement here.
But TigerStrike the main thing is, I think alot of people dont want to have to babysit a hot burner for 10 hours+
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Re: Alternative to pressure cooking jars for inoculation? [Re: The Mycologist]
#27291552 - 05/03/21 07:28 AM (3 years, 16 days ago) |
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I never did hot water bath sterilization on pf tek jars myself... To be QUITE honest. First thing I did was jump in and buy a 22 qt mirro. My family already had a 16 but the 22 was more the size I wanted.
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Re: Alternative to pressure cooking jars for inoculation? [Re: The Mycologist] 2
#27291555 - 05/03/21 07:29 AM (3 years, 16 days ago) |
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Wait til he hears he needs a dehydrator too.
Which reminds me, I have a couple gallons to flush down the toilet.
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Re: Alternative to pressure cooking jars for inoculation? [Re: LadysKnight]
#27291598 - 05/03/21 08:10 AM (3 years, 16 days ago) |
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XD LadysKnight. That shit got me dying haha.
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Re: Alternative to pressure cooking jars for inoculation? [Re: The Mycologist] 1
#27291616 - 05/03/21 08:19 AM (3 years, 16 days ago) |
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My man! Good to see somebody paying attention.
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Re: Alternative to pressure cooking jars for inoculation? [Re: LadysKnight]
#27291783 - 05/03/21 10:10 AM (3 years, 16 days ago) |
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