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Re: Looking for tips from King Oyster growers [Re: Hindsight]
#27304191 - 05/11/21 11:11 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Finally! Pins! And lots of them.
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Re: Looking for tips from King Oyster growers [Re: Hindsight] 1
#27304532 - 05/11/21 04:08 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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No after a week of 100% colonization I moved into 53F fruiting that's when I got the pins
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Re: Looking for tips from King Oyster growers [Re: TravelAgency]
#27304563 - 05/11/21 04:29 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Got it - thank you!
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Re: Looking for tips from King Oyster growers [Re: Hindsight]
#27307105 - 05/13/21 02:02 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Some nice looking oysters growing! Really looking forward to being able to cook these regularly and give to friends.
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Re: Looking for tips from King Oyster growers [Re: Hindsight]
#27307520 - 05/13/21 09:14 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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good you got pins.. hope they grow up into healthy adults..
cooked mine chinese wok style, mushroom n broccoli.. soaked mushroom in hoisin sauce water overnight, then cooked with the broccoli n mushrooms in some oil after a little more seasoning and sauce.
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Re: Looking for tips from King Oyster growers [Re: trippleblack]
#27307873 - 05/14/21 05:35 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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That sounds like an awesome way to cook them. I like the hoisin marinade idea. Guessing these take really well to marinades since they are so firm.
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Re: Looking for tips from King Oyster growers [Re: Hindsight]
#27307891 - 05/14/21 06:16 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Does anyone side fruit oysters? I've gotten some good fruits, but only a few per block .. I'm hoping the surface conditions are okay but I think it may be the problem. My humidity levels are okay but I have a circulation fan that might be causing a problem... with just my kings.
I may try to hand a sheet of plastic and hist grow them in one section of the room that's a little more protected. I've seen earth angle do something similar. But what about slicing the side open? Anysuceess?
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Re: Looking for tips from King Oyster growers [Re: Farm3r]
#27328933 - 05/30/21 08:11 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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The grow bag did ok. Got a couple of nice fruits from it but not a lot. Hoping for a second flush. I cooked and ate the fruits I harvested and they were fantastic. I really want to get a perpetual grow timed where I can have these non-stop.
This was my experiment using a deep tub instead of a bag. I wanted to try a tub because I felt the tall sides would hold more C02 in to help the stems stay fat and caps stay small. This tub was also the first time I allowed an additional 2 weeks of consolidation at 76F after it reached 100% consolidation before moving to the 55F fruiting fridge. I didn't mess with the surface of the substrate at any point. I noticed MASSIVE pinning and you can see evidence of that but most pins aborted except for the big fruits you can see in the pic. Is this pretty typical with kings?
Do most of you water during fruiting? And what happens with Kings if you reduce FAE after fruiting begins?
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Re: Looking for tips from King Oyster growers [Re: Hindsight] 1
#27329034 - 05/30/21 09:45 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes Kings get huge pinsets and then abort most of them as the cluster grows, very typical of Kings. Well not typical per say, its just what they do. Some nice fruits they look great! I suggest picking every pin off for now, all the small fruits too and fruiting from another side. You should definitely get a second flush in about 2-3 weeks if thats all you got off the first flush. As for the FAE drop Im assuming you are asking bc you move them into a fridge. Its not ideal, amd I dont do that, but it looks like it worked for you. The inside of a fridge definitely isnt going to have ideal air flow for fruiting but it still looks like you managed! Kings are delish, enjoy!
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Re: Looking for tips from King Oyster growers [Re: sendmehummus]
#27329084 - 05/30/21 10:14 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks for the reply! Ok I'll do a little bit of pruning then.
For FAE, it's not so much the fridge I'm concerned with (because I can't do anything about that), it's more I'm wondering if I should put the lid back on the tub or leave it off. I left it cracked open quite a bit to get a pinset going. My fear is that it isn't humid enough in there. The fridge likes to extract water and dump it into an external water tray for evaporation outside the fridge. That little tray fills up fast and I can't have it overflow or it will ruin my floor. So I'm wondering if closing the lid (which fits really, really loosly) would help retain moisture in the tub and also provide enough FAE for the fruits. I was going to test it, but I would need to know signs of lack of FAE in the fruits in order to know when to reverse course if it isn't enough FAE.
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Re: Looking for tips from King Oyster growers [Re: Hindsight]
#27332457 - 06/02/21 10:16 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Another question: Do any of you inoculate your substrates with LC instead of grain spawn? Or is grain spawn always recommended for Kings?
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Re: Looking for tips from King Oyster growers [Re: Hindsight]
#27333023 - 06/02/21 06:42 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I get bad results (low yields) if I don't use about a quart of spawn. Not cool but almost worth it.
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Re: Looking for tips from King Oyster growers [Re: deadmandave]
#27333320 - 06/03/21 01:50 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Alright thank you! Will stick to spawn.
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Re: Looking for tips from King Oyster growers [Re: Hindsight]
#27342609 - 06/10/21 07:42 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Anyone grow KO in Jars, taking of cover for fruiting ?
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Re: Looking for tips from King Oyster growers [Re: pitriot]
#27342734 - 06/10/21 09:06 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's how I grew my first ones. Did it on PF cakes I made with HWFP mixed in with the wet cake before PCing. It worked but it's such a small scale you aren't going to get much usable mushrooms out of it.
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Re: Looking for tips from King Oyster growers [Re: Hindsight]
#27343147 - 06/10/21 01:30 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Were these quart jars? I was thinking of the same masters mix sub but in a jar and they have the fruit come out the top. Something like this
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Re: Looking for tips from King Oyster growers [Re: pitriot]
#27343175 - 06/10/21 01:55 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I did mine in pint jars originally. Quart could work but kings don't sprout just one fruit - which is all you'd have room for. I can see a cluster trying to grow and getting stuck in the jar. Would be hard getting down into the jar to monkey with it. Also seems like to make big fruit, they want a lot of substrate.
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Re: Looking for tips from King Oyster growers [Re: Hindsight]
#27343223 - 06/10/21 02:29 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bottle cultivation is done on an industrial scale for kings all over the world. There are a couple good videos from Korea.
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Re: Looking for tips from King Oyster growers [Re: deadmandave]
#27343234 - 06/10/21 02:45 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah I did see that video when someone posted it a while back. Note that the surface of the substrate is at the very top of the bottle. The problem there is that you have to then ensure an optimal environment for the fruits. If you have the fruits deep in a jar with a lid and some controllable amount of airflow into the lid, you don't have to worry about conditions as much. You need a lot of CO2 to get the classic king shape with fat stem and small cap. So IMHO unless you have a walk-in cooler or some other setup with air conditioning or cooling down to 55F, humidity control, CO2 control and monitoring, it's going to be tough to grow in jars with the fruit being outside of the jar. Again, clearly I'm no expert here based on how new I am to this but that's what I have learned.
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Re: Looking for tips from King Oyster growers [Re: Hindsight]
#27343318 - 06/10/21 03:56 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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What's the alternative? You need a cool fruiting chamber regardless if it's in a bottle or bag?
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