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 Ryan_Spalding2727
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 Re: Water flooding jars during PC  [Re: Inthepit]
#27288773 - 05/01/21 07:27 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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This is why I have a love affair with whole oats, lol…
I won’t go into the whole mental masturbation process of trying to break down the specific mechanics of it, but yes I’ve used corn before, and depending on how well/much I hydrated it, as well as how long it would be in the PC… well yeah, anyways, I’ve gotten those same results.
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 Feasoghorm
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The corn reabsorbed the water over night. That was a fuck ton of water.
Idk, when it happens with wbs or wheat or something i'll post.
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verum subsequentis
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Yo madhat stoner, here....
Ok, now that that is out of the way, do you have problems with moisture in bags if you don't. I don't give a shit if people do that but I do know it isn't necessary.
I just dump my grain on a big ass strainer and let her sit till perfect. If I'm in a hurry I'll hire a midget to stir it here and there.
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Re: Water flooding jars during PC [Re: Feasoghorm]
#27288893 - 05/01/21 09:10 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Word. Were the jars still hot in the pic? A lot of time they'll have condensation and then absorb it. A shake while still warm helps.
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Feasoghorm
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Hehe, ahhh it's too good  God damn i luv weed. Jst woke up, jst toked up.
Yeah i had a trampoline for mice at one point and i may again, but my bare counter works pretty good. Jst need to be patient and let grain dry.
However there is something odd that happens now and then where the jars seem to flood. Sometimes only a couple.
The pics are right outta the PC. I shook 'em. This morn they seem to have absorbed most of the water. I feel like it's gonna show back up though.
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Re: Water flooding jars during PC [Re: Inthepit]
#27289050 - 05/01/21 11:13 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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even if those are piss sample no one is judging  i had serious conversations about cow poop and horse poop and piss too, the only reason i do hair dryer because i can not stand for long time and i usually do not need it it either, but some batch come out to be too moist and that's a sweet setup for drying.
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Re: Water flooding jars during PC [Re: pesa]
#27289402 - 05/01/21 04:01 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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I would either try the verm method or just under prep the grains a bit so they absorb water during the cycle instead of releasing it
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Quote:
TheMadHatter420 said:
I will probably get some crap for this, but throw a couple table spoons of DRY vermiculite in the bottom of the jars before you load your grains. That vermiculite will capture the moisture that pools and problem is solved! I throw a little in the bottom of my bags and have grown a literal metric fuck ton of shrooms since November, no shit metric fuck ton!
Dry cardboard, vermiculite, paper, dry grains. All of these can fix wet corn.
But the real solution is to dry them enough before loading. Since we are drying the surface and not all moisture, corn pced 1hour dries best when most of the surface of the kernels are in contact with air
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Re: Water flooding jars during PC [Re: Feasoghorm]
#27289513 - 05/01/21 06:27 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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This is what RogerRabbit has to say about corn..: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6741554#6741554
Just a suggestion..
Try Red Milo/Sorghum, here in Mexico It's call sorgos..
It's half the price of oats..
I find that milo Is way faster to prep than oats less drying time.
After pc cycle the grain looks wet but in a half day after a shake It's perfect.
I wash and rinse three times and boil for 7 minutes then drain and load jars.
The beauty with milo is the small inoculation points.
The grain water after the boil Is perfect for making agar plates. Just add 10 grams agar 500ml.grain water.
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Re: Water flooding jars during PC [Re: micelio]
#27289548 - 05/01/21 07:41 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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do you use crack Sorghum too or discard it? i have about kg of Sorghum but it has too many split seeds have no idea what to do.
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Re: Water flooding jars during PC [Re: pesa] 1
#27289580 - 05/01/21 08:05 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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I use It all. Be honest I don't recall crack or split milo being a problem..
I'm confident If anyone tries It they'll love working with It. I'm surprise that I got so hung up using oats for such a long time..
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Re: Water flooding jars during PC [Re: micelio]
#27289652 - 05/01/21 09:22 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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i am going to try it
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Re: Water flooding jars during PC [Re: pesa]
#27289685 - 05/01/21 10:00 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hey Feaso, yea fuck corn.
With that out of the way 2 things came to mind as to why this might have happened.
Some grains require a long ass time for me to get them as dry on the outside as they need to be and corn is one of them. I'm talking +24 hours with the help of a strainer like verum's (well not nearly as big) and a fan running the last hours before jarring up. It needs to feel real dry on the outside.
Second, maybe you took those jars out of the PC when they were still hot? The grains spew out an important amount of moisture this way until they cool down completely. Grains are able to reabsorb part of this lost moisture over the course of a few days and several shakes but I think corn has a harder time.
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Re: Water flooding jars during PC [Re: Josex]
#27289743 - 05/01/21 11:28 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wow 24+ hrs. Yeah them jars dnt look like that anymore, but i see corn being a pain in the ace. I like rye and wheat anx Egypt wheat. So after i go through my patented mega squirrel mix i'll invest into my favs.
Micelio - I luv that stuff. To find it on ebay you have to search for egyptian wheat. It's jst red sorghum i knw, but for some reason they call it other shit.
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Re: Water flooding jars during PC [Re: Feasoghorm]
#27289776 - 05/02/21 12:09 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah it's a lot lol I live in a humid climate so that might have something to do.
I could get them dry in a lot less time if I were to run the fan from minute 1 and maybe be around to stir them.
But even then with some harder to dry grains it's still a lot of hours on the strainer so I'd have to boil them in the morning if I want to sterilize them the same day... so most times it's just easier to leave them there until the next day.
Oats and barley would be prime examples of grains that need prolonged drying times, too many people get them too wet because improper drying, like 2 hours on a kitchen strainer kinda deal.
Mesh and forget till the next day is how I get them right.
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Re: Water flooding jars during PC [Re: Feasoghorm]
#27289985 - 05/02/21 06:48 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Feasoghorm said:
Hmm... Well, it happens no matter the grain/seed or method of gas exchange. I cant find anything unstandard in my prep. If water isnt getting in, then there is of course too much water in the grain/seed to begin with.
Grain/seed has a fan on high directly at it sitting on bare counter. I turn it periodically. Dries for at least 90min or so. Guess i can get a batch "super dry" and see how that works.
I know I am late to the party on this but it happens to me every now and then also. Usually I blame the SFD stickies, but I shake them and let them sit for a day or two and the moisture goes away.
What about food coloring in the water in the bottom of the PC? Then we can tell if the food coloring gets into the jars.
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Re: Water flooding jars during PC [Re: Sockadin] 1
#27291288 - 05/03/21 12:26 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Josex - Yeah i tossed the rest of the dry corn into a mix bucket of what i call squirrel mix, whixh is jst left over grains from bags. I also tossed a full bucket of sunflower seeds out for the woodland creatures. Them seem like kinda a bitch to not only get dry but completely sterilize. I jst had a bunch of jars develop snot bacteria, specifically strait outta sfseeds. So fuck them.
Sock - Sounds decent in theory but i suspect issues with adding dye/pigmemt to PC water.
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Re: Water flooding jars during PC [Re: Feasoghorm]
#27292592 - 05/03/21 06:14 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've never had this kind of issue, but I also keep my grains a bit on the crunchy side when they go into the PC. I just knock off most of the water through a colander, then bag/jar, straight to the PC.
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Re: Water flooding jars during PC [Re: give.more]
#27293267 - 05/04/21 02:04 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Try a jar of straight sunflower seeds. Too much oil.
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Like these?
You just have to alter your prep a little but they will work fine.
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