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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #27286661 - 04/29/21 02:09 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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My new AA75X knob is stuck on high, am I just fucked on the first round? :sad:




I've never run mine on high. Only one way to find out. I bet it'll be fine but just cook really nice and hot. May blow the stop cock safety but that's fine.

Why/ How is it stuck



I just turned it up like all the way to heat it up with a bunch o bags and i could feel like a small click once I turned it up and now it doesn't turn at all. I did blow the stop cock safety and wasn't sure what to do so shut it down. Got an hr deep in the green zone by turning the unit of and on a couple times, but I doubt 7 fat bags of wheat gonna be done enough.




I also really doubt that. You gonna noc em anywho? Interesting experiment. Sorry about your brand new baby. I'd recommened getting ahold of the AA folks. I had a problem with mine and they were very helpful. Sent me new parts for free too.



So the technician was as bummed as I was when I told him the trouble and he realized what was up. He said it jumped the stop-pin and since it was brand new he isn't gonna have me crack her open. They got the 1 new one they had available set to be shipped directly meanwhile the 400+ backordered are gonna have to wait a little longer.:awesome:They already sent me the label to return the other, but ai don't have to send it till I get my new one.

On the other hand while my car is still out of comission it seems the <1yr old wall mounted AC in my Flow/Spawn room is on the fritz. It blows but not cold like the other unit does. I'm gonna guess it's the capacitor but I can't even see how to serivice the unit at all. No screws or pop tabs...:shitty:

As for the whole legalization thing it will be fully legal at some point through progress. Maybe everyone dies and the other animals move on without us eating them all natural style. Remember you can always throw your hat in the ring and run for office. Start small and develop some dem grassroots n such. America loves it's businesses, maybe a union of mush farms would hold some more weight than some Randy Johnson growing some fungus here or there. Call em artisinal and people go ape shit for whatever ya got. Anyway at some point some how you gotta gain and wield power to make changes.

I think I'm gonna noc one of the bags I ran through the AA75X, for science.:mushroom2:

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: starbones] * 1
    #27286663 - 04/29/21 02:11 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

of course we shouldn’t let bad information fly, def not saying that. there is a reason the shroomery recommends against bad advice in favor of proven methods, otherwise you end up like reddit/youtube, riddled with horrible misinformation. but that’s in context of people trying to learn cultivation, not people casually interested in growing an oyster mushroom block here & there. i think it would be a little different if people were buying pre ‘noc’d cube spawn/kits vs “what’s up guys, just shot spores in the open air to my boiled grains i didn’t sterilize, is this green mold mycelium??” & getting “lookin good bro 😎” as the replies


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hazyhorse]
    #27286707 - 04/29/21 02:43 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Hello all, this is my first time growing. On 20/04 I inoculated agar with spores, scraping spores to agar directly from the print.

You can see how it looks almost ten days later.

Little black specs are spore clumps and these colored specks are some kind of bacterial contam, but is this white thing finally mycelium starting to show? It looks very cottony. I'm asking because it seems to grow from the spores OVER the bacteria and into the agar, is that normal? It also seems to grow somewhat up in the air, is that normal?

How much should myc usually grow in nine days? This seems like an awfully slow growth to me?

One final question, how come the bacterial contam stopped growing after first couple of days? I was under the impression that contam will grow as long as it has available food?




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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Gljivar]
    #27286714 - 04/29/21 02:48 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I'd guess your agar is pretty heavily nutritious.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hazyhorse]
    #27286722 - 04/29/21 02:55 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Word, standards and expectations are good but not everyone always needs to be held to the same high standard.

I'm outing myself but my first ever grow was with UB and only like 50% of my bags made it but I managed to get like 2oz at the end of the day which would've lasted me quite a while. This was before I decided to grow more seriously when I just wanted to see what was up and get some shrooms for myself but even just that first grow sparked curiosity. The UB subreddit nowadays is endlessly frustrating but there is value in the very simple, noob friendly way that it's presented. PF Tek is probably a much better route but I think UB has somewhat gotten the attention it has for it's ultra simple nature and the way the information is presented.

Regardless, anybody who wishes to grow bulk but can't learn past UB is a delusional fool but for some who may just want to grow a personal stash once, it isn't the end of the world to shoot some spores into a bag of rice. And I'm honestly glad, mason jars and other cult equipment are hard enough to buy right now as it is. Just don't try to teach them anything new though lol, it's quite the exercise in futility.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Gljivar]
    #27286768 - 04/29/21 03:36 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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Hello all, this is my first time growing. On 20/04 I inoculated agar with spores, scraping spores to agar directly from the print.

You can see how it looks almost ten days later.

Little black specs are spore clumps and these colored specks are some kind of bacterial contam, but is this white thing finally mycelium starting to show? It looks very cottony. I'm asking because it seems to grow from the spores OVER the bacteria and into the agar, is that normal? It also seems to grow somewhat up in the air, is that normal?

How much should myc usually grow in nine days? This seems like an awfully slow growth to me?

One final question, how come the bacterial contam stopped growing after first couple of days? I was under the impression that contam will grow as long as it has available food?




Thank you people!




Spores can take anywhere from a few days to a few weeks to germinate. That looks like it's probably mycelium. It tends to grow up into the air a little bit, that's normal. You can transfer a small piece of that mycelium, away from any bacterial colonies, to a new plate. And the bacteria don't typically spread as quickly as cube mycelium, so that's why it might seem like it's slowed down.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lenz]
    #27286772 - 04/29/21 03:39 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

lmao we all start somewhere man. no shame in being a noob. my first shoeboxes were shit, but like you said i got enough yield off them to supply myself & some friends for awhile. if there hadn’t been noob friendly stuff to get me into mycology in the first place, i doubt i would have ever tried agar or gotten a PC. it has its place, but i don’t think we need to pretend it’s optimal or good by any means. i think the main problem is people don’t want to learn or don’t want to hear that they need to step their game up if they want better results, which leads to stagnation & regression as far as progress is concerned


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hazyhorse]
    #27286827 - 04/29/21 04:24 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Legalization would be good for shroomery king term


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #27286899 - 04/29/21 05:22 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I'm loving this discussion on legalization. So many good points and opinions on the matter. I do agree that it's not feasible to just release these things to the average Karen and hope for the best. The need for some form of regulation is obvious.

Some people dont have the mental capacity to accept what they are seeing/feeling without someone to help them along. But guides should have regulations. While I love a good tipper/shpongle trippy room time it's not for everyone. If you throw some gregorian chanting and shaman vibes some people arent super comfortable with that either.

I've got to say that every person likes a different experience. If there could be a system to put people into an environment of their choosing it would be very viable to what you want to get out of the trip.

An experience for healing, for say, should be with an licensed therapist who has their own experiences with the magic and are able to guide people reasonably through their problems to a solution. In a situation like that you'd probably just want a comfortable environment with very light music and more focused on the one on one.

I've had people that can take heroic doses and be completely normal (on the outside at least lol) and some people who cant handle their shit on 2g. Versatility is key for something like this. Let people know that if something is stronger or weaker, essentially like how they give cannabis different THC levels and whatnot.

Mentioned above, a joint wont break someone's mind but a 3.5 of some PE has the capability to if you dont know what you're getting into. I had a friend once that I gave him a dose and walked around with him, and his ass proceeded to walk into the middle of a highway at night (thankfully no one around) and looked up saying "is this... even real life?". Had to drag his ass out the highway just for him to jump into someone's yard rolling in the grass refusing to get up :facepalm3:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: lookintolearn]
    #27286922 - 04/29/21 05:39 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

really great points, lookintolearn. the dosage thing being highly personal is super true. i find i can handle myself really well on 3.5g of normal mushies or 2 tabs where as other people are far gone on half the dose. i’ve definitely had to do a bit of guiding/trip sitting while tripping hard & have handled some more complex situations in the midst of it. i don’t say this to brag or anything, just what i’ve found with my personal dosages. i think it depends on how accepting you are of the weirdness that can ensue from psyches. not everyone wants or needs to take an eighth+ to get what they need out of mushrooms & i can respect that. i think that working with someone who understand that the psychedelic experience is highly individual could prove beneficial for people seeking it out as a form of medicine. i’ve been reading a lot of carl yung lately & he saw psychology/psychiatry as a completely case by case basis. what works for one person may not (& often times doesn’t) work for others. there are no hard & fast rules (outside of set & setting) & anyone saying there are is full of shit.

some asshole in a lab coat telling you that you need to take exactly 2.43243g to get X effect/cure X ailment is going to be a crock of shit. but i think some people would benefit greatly experienced guides that take each “patient” (if you will) as a completely individual & unique case. treating the psyche requires understanding that each person is completely unique & that the solutions to their ailments must come from within the context of the individual. there are no hard & fast rules for tripping or the human psyche. but people have been using guided trips for centuries; think of native american mescaline ceremonies, shit indigenous people do with ayahuasca/tobacco/mushrooms/meditation/fuckin whatever. it’s not a new concept & has a lot of evidence that shows it can be beneficial. now, letting it become coopted by the pharmaceutical industry & traditional “doctors” would be a travesty of what mushrooms/psychs have to offer, but i don’t think the general concept of guided trips are a bad thing, as they already have a long history in human cultures. not everyone is equipped to go down that path alone, & it can be incredibly difficult to gain insight out of it if you’re someone who has a hard time accepting or recognizing things without outside guidance. if a “therapist” (if you will) can recognize this & work to meet the needs of each individual, i think it could be a beautiful thing


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: lookintolearn]
    #27286927 - 04/29/21 05:43 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I've given gbong hits to people who've had full on episodes. It was decent bud but not that great.

Point being some peoples minds can break from weed

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #27286934 - 04/29/21 05:49 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Pot seriously breaks my mind. It causes me serious drug induced psychosis and dysphoria. Zero positive effects. Its like what I would imagine schizophrenia to be like. Awful.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #27286945 - 04/29/21 05:58 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Dude, I thought I was the only one...


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Eugene Gesuale] * 1
    #27286955 - 04/29/21 06:07 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

And you guys use psychedelics with no problem?

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tiptrippy]
    #27286958 - 04/29/21 06:10 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Or they just like how they turn insane on Shrooms 🤯🤠


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tiptrippy]
    #27286960 - 04/29/21 06:11 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

As long as I’m around people I trust or by myself, I don’t get paranoid on psyches. But with weed, I could be all alone in my room and bug the fuck out
The last trip I had was a light one, and I kept thinking that strangers at the park were continually judging me and it felt bad but then I worked through it because who gives a fuck what everyone’s perception of me is. The mushroom helps teach me why I think the way I do and overcome the harmful thought patterns I operate out of normally by making me more sensitive to the way I think. Think about what I’m thinking about, sort of thing, all internalized.
Weed takes my focus off myself and puts it on all the externals that I can’t control leaving me tormented because I over analyze every possible scenario as to why and how and who and where and when and it’s fucking exhausting


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Eugene Gesuale]
    #27286968 - 04/29/21 06:14 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Great points. I think it can be a cause for concern regarding psychedelics being co-opted by the state and medical/psychiatric institutions, especially given the way that things like LSD microdoses have become popular in Silicone Valley for "productivity" and "cognitive enhancement" purposes.

I don't think there's a "right" way to do psychedelics but you do have to wonder about its effects on the wider psyche and collective unconscious when it is legalized under specific conditions, especially considering that places like the U.S. don't have a tradition of ceremonial psychedelic use. I agree a lot of people can certainly benefit from an experienced guide but I wonder how many people are there out there who can fulfill such a role.

Weed definitely breaks my brain I turn into an anxious freak half the time lol

Anyway here's some soldiers on LSD: https://i.imgur.com/SruwUbT.gifv


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #27286987 - 04/29/21 06:35 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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Pot seriously breaks my mind. It causes me serious drug induced psychosis and dysphoria. Zero positive effects. Its like what I would imagine schizophrenia to be like. Awful.



Thsts how I feel on heavy sativa's that were harvested for there heady traits, on heavy indicas I'm sedatated and sleepy.

I've read that it's not uncommon and reported in something like 10% of users. One pro weed shrink even theorized it's activating underlying schizoaffective disorders that without that stimulation remain dormant.

I love the amount of pain relief weed provides, and how it's natural sedation helps people like me who have sleep disorders. I just hate the headspace it gives me though heavy indica edibles can mitigate most of it

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lenz]
    #27286992 - 04/29/21 06:44 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

That's really interesting to hear about your mental effects with weed. I've smoked with alot of people and the craziest thing I've seen or heard about was someone passing out because it was to much. Never heard much of having these effects you mention.

Just goes to show how different everyone's bodies can be mentally and physically. Research is the key for things like this. I wonder if there's a certain ratio of THC/CBD or even delta 8 or the many other cannabinoids that would make you feel positive effects as opposed to negative.

And thanks hazy, I wish there was a shroomery commune/compound where we could all get together to discuss things like this. As much as I love the shroomery I love talking in person. One more reason to get these gears turning for future legalization.

I want to attend a MAPS convention really bad. I would love to hear what the professionals have to say about this.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tiptrippy]
    #27287001 - 04/29/21 06:52 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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And you guys use psychedelics with no problem?




With a bit of care, I can take mushrooms. Under no circumstances whatsoever am I able to ingest THC. It's a white knuckle ride on the crazy train. I'm envious of people who can just light up and feel relaxed. I have to drink booze for that, which isn't a great long term strategy.

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