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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
#27286378 - 04/29/21 09:57 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: I’ve been in contact with a lawyer who’s on the committee that’s setting up the laws for Oregon’s legalization. It’s awesome they just had people from relevant industries and also just regular citizens appointed to the board.
Nothing’s set yet but there’s going to be permits for cultivation, the place that people trip, and then “trip guides”. Unfortunately I haven’t been able to get any price estimates yet cuz that’s for sure gonna be the issue.
Also until 2025 only people who’ve lived in Oregon for two years can apply.
I think the big difference between weed legalization and shrooms is going to be how much easier it is for any one person to produce massive quantities cheap and in super small spaces with quick turn arounds.
Imo that’s going to make things a lot different. No way could I easily produce 100 doses of weed for $5 in material and no maintenance whatsoever in a 3 square foot area.
Way more people will be doing it for personal use too. Just imagine if you could start growing significant amounts of weed for a few bucks with no lights, smells, or monitoring and in a space the size of a shoebox.
Comparing a "dose" of weed to a dose of mushrooms is like comparing a mouse to an elephant.
Mushrooms will be clouded by deep regulation at first. I mean I love mushrooms but I also know the potential for someone to hurt themselves on a dose of mushrooms (mentally and physically) is 1000 fold compared to the potential for a joint to hurt someone.
This alone will keep mushrooms in a legal merry go round for a long time.
First time someone does something stupid on a dose of legal mushrooms you can kiss the idea of widespread unregulated cult goodbye.
I foresee medical legalization coming and staying for quite a while before full legalization is even considered.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
#27286382 - 04/29/21 10:05 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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to answer the question from last page about getting involved in efforts to de-criminalize while actively growing yourself. Judging by the people in my community who led the drive...no. Then again, my community was almost guaranteed to pass and support the legislation, which might be different where you are, so you'd probably be best to judge on that aspect. But in any case, reaching out to groups who have already done it in other cities would be a good first step to discuss what kind of effort and exposure might be required to get an initiative going in your area. I was surprised at the range of people from "respectable" professions and different political persuasions that were involved in my area. Decriminalize Nature is the group that has put the most toward these efforts, they have a lot of resources on their website.
maybe y'all have already looked at it or are involved with them, but here's a pdf of the guidebook from that org with their contact info. it's a PDF so if you're on chrome and you don't want to open it attached to your google account, download it I guess: https://decriminalizenature.org/images/decrimnature-handbook_final_sept_14.pdf
might also be worth checking MAPS to see if there are psychological professionals in your area that you might be able to link up with who would be willing to be the face: https://integration.maps.org/
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: trubblesome]
#27286386 - 04/29/21 10:08 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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some columbian rust spores 2nd flush
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
#27286438 - 04/29/21 10:44 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Feasoghorm said: Adrenacrome - Help your wife treat herself and fuck the law!
The problem is that, while she knows it could help her, she refuses to partake until there is no chance she will lose her children, which is understandable. But after having attempted suicide less than a year ago, I have a sense of urgency regarding the timeframe in which she has access to the sacred medicine...
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See if she would be more willing if her session was in a professional setting like from a psychedelic integration therapist. You can search for one near you at the link posted above. Sounds like she could greatly benefit from a high dose healing trip.
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I wonder how much the learning curve will keep a bunch of people from growing their own. We all know how easy it is to farm trich on accident. Anyone can pull a shitty cannabis grow off. Not so much with the rainbows.
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It's not easy growing good bud either. Its took me a some time to be good at both. At least a year of solid research and experimenting to understand how things are. I like to think I'm a semi mycologist/botanist at this point. Lol
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verum subsequentis said: I wonder how much the learning curve will keep a bunch of people from growing their own. We all know how easy it is to farm trich on accident. Anyone can pull a shitty cannabis grow off. Not so much with the rainbows.
None of it is just that easy. The failures of newbs could make them throw in the towel
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Hobbit GDF]
#27286495 - 04/29/21 11:35 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Good bud isn't easy to grow but bud is. Where as even getting results at all with magic takes some figuring.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Hobbit GDF] 1
#27286500 - 04/29/21 11:37 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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It seems we are the hiring pool, writing our own resumes.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LadysKnight]
#27286520 - 04/29/21 11:59 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Growing cubensis is as easy as breathing. People complicate it.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Hobbit GDF]
#27286554 - 04/29/21 12:21 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hobbit GDF said: Yeah that's what I'm saying. What if you have complete spunion guiding you. Like how Charles Manson did with LSD.
Who gets to be the guides.
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i gotta say i feel like cannabis is honestly trickier than mushrooms, at least it was for me. i felt my first run with PF tek & spores went really well, even though i fucked up my surface conditions HARD. i may have just been more motivated to learn about mycology than the average person, but i followed proven teks on here & got results my first time. obviously if you’re getting trich in your jars or you’re using uncle bens (lol) you’re not getting very far but i feel there are so many other factors when it comes to growing cannabis well that mushrooms don’t have. the sterile procedures definitely make things trickier but it’s not like using an SAB is rocket science. sure, you could grow an autoflower seed under one CFL & get one shitty ass nug (if your plant doesn’t die of malnutrition) but if that’s the standard, i’d argue you can easily do the same with mush cult. i do think that mycological work is intimidating to normies, so i could see a lot of them getting turned off by how complicated & weird it seems in comparison to growing weed. like, everyone has germinated a seed & we all are semi familiar with how growing plants work on a base level, but you start reading about pressure cooking & agar & most people who aren’t motivated to learn are gonna check out of cultivation there. but there are plenty of dumbasses getting a few mushrooms off whatever jank reddit tek they are following. i’d agree that getting decent to good results from mushrooms can take a lot of work, but i think most people can get SOME results that would be on par with growing shitty weed. took me awhile to dial anything in w cannabis & get OK results where as i was always getting some mushrooms off a flush even when i sucked at mush cult
not to challenge you or anything, just my 2 cents
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hazyhorse]
#27286620 - 04/29/21 01:35 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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whats wrong with uncle bens?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Camera93]
#27286629 - 04/29/21 01:47 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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every post i saw from people using uncle bens on the reddit was bacterial/triched as fuck & it’s generally clowned on pretty hard here. i’m sure people have success with it here & there but most of the posts i saw using it were fucked. it probably comes across elitist but it’s just so jank lol, like PF tek really isn’t that much harder for how much better your results will be
(to be clear, i’m talking about the uncle ben’s “tek,” not using uncle bens brown rice as a general grain)
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verum subsequentis said: I wonder how much the learning curve will keep a bunch of people from growing their own. We all know how easy it is to farm trich on accident. Anyone can pull a shitty cannabis grow off. Not so much with the rainbows.
the kit market will be HUGE
I've already made "kits" that put out a little more than an eighth to give to friends who want to know more about/see the process but aren't willing to sink $ in to a pressure cooker etc., learn how to use an SAB, or even inject PF tek jars and then sit around waiting for 3 weeks to see if they grew mold or not.
it's not just the learning curve, it's that for a lot of people, they just want the end product/experience available whenever they want it without making the whole thing into a part time job.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: trubblesome]
#27286634 - 04/29/21 01:52 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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trubble, i think you’re absolutely right. people already do that with gourmet mushroom kits; i can only imagine there would be a huge market for people who just want a fun way to get a couple of grams of mushrooms & learn a slight bit about the process. cultivating anything, whether it’s weed, mushrooms, vegetables, house plants, etc is a lot of work. i’ve seen a lot of all in one “kits” for weed too to make it beginner friendly. definitely not the way to do it if you want actual results, but i think you’re right in suggesting that most people don’t care about getting a thick canopy of an obscure strain of mushroom like we do lol
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hazyhorse]
#27286643 - 04/29/21 01:58 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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exactly. it takes a special kinda person to go as deep as we do here.
it took me a little while to get over the whole "that's not REALLY growing mushrooms! you just bought a colonized fruiting block and cut an x in the bag!" thing and realize that whatever gets people interested is good for growing the hobby and reducing mycophobia generally. They still had to watch it and maintain a microclimate, it gave them some sense of participation in the process, even if it isn't as all consuming as I've made it for myself.
And if some people do it and say "that was a fun experience, I'm glad I did it, but probably won't go further" that's cool too. but maybe they have a friend who wants to try growing pink oyster, and I can sell them a kit too.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: trubblesome]
#27286650 - 04/29/21 02:05 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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exactly!! i don’t want to gate keep anyone or sound elitist, because even if someone is just casually interested in mycology i think that’s a cool thing. i completely understand why people don’t wanna pour agar plates, isolate cultures, sterilize grains etc. hell, i almost noped out when reading about agar 2 years ago because i didn’t wanna get a pressure cooker & the whole process seemed overwhelmingly complicated. even an entry level oyster kit still requires a bit of maintenance, & if that gets people more stoked on mushrooms while giving them an actual product/reward for their work, on the whole i think that’s a good thing. if that’s where they end their mycological journey, more power to them. not everyone needs to be into the same shit. but it provides a window to fall deeper into the rabbit hole of mush cult if they so choose to follow that sirens song lol
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: trubblesome]
#27286652 - 04/29/21 02:06 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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A standard isn't a bad thing. Without standards we would never be at where we are and we'd be all doing PF tek. A standard and an expectation only help us all in the end.
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