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Re: The Official Hericium Thread [Re: JXAllen]
    #27684528 - 03/06/22 02:34 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Find out on agar or find out on grain, we can't tell ya by looking :shrug:

Looks like I wouldn't wanna use it but it could be great, I can't remember what old LM LC does exactly


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Re: The Official Hericium Thread [Re: Forrester]
    #27684539 - 03/06/22 02:51 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

That's what I figured. Better to use a petri dish or two than waste 4 jars of grain... I'll drop some on agar.


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Re: The Official Hericium Thread [Re: JXAllen]
    #27686893 - 03/08/22 12:31 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

never grown LM
i got lc from friend and he told me LM can inject straight to substrate
hard wood pallets and bran 70/30
anyone done it with success?


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Re: The Official Hericium Thread [Re: AbuSharka]
    #27686930 - 03/08/22 01:53 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I assume some have had success doing it that way, but I've seen a lot on here asking why it failed.  LC really doesn't take well straight to sawdust without going on grain first, but some people get it to work sometimes :shrug:


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Re: The Official Hericium Thread [Re: Forrester]
    #27686942 - 03/08/22 02:16 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I did 10 ml of LC into sawdust my first time starting from culture. Despite not contaminating and actually eating a mushroom from one of them today, the yield was shit and it took MONTHS to colonize a quart jar lol - I wanna say I noc'ed it in early november. I probably coulda fruited it a little earlier... But ultimately don't think that woulda mattered too much.

I was running straight sawdust though. Also I was growing in a jar and definitely packed it a little too tight on that run. It might jump off faster with the bran, who knows. :confused:


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Re: The Official Hericium Thread [Re: Soviet Data]
    #27686990 - 03/08/22 04:56 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Forrester said:
I assume some have had success doing it that way, but I've seen a lot on here asking why it failed.  LC really doesn't take well straight to sawdust without going on grain first, but some people get it to work sometimes :shrug:



might be the bran make going straight substrate easier and faster (then just sawdust)
I'll try it with different sawdust:bran ratio


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I did 10 ml of LC into sawdust my first time starting from culture. Despite not contaminating and actually eating a mushroom from one of them today, the yield was shit and it took MONTHS to colonize a quart jar lol - I wanna say I noc'ed it in early november. I probably coulda fruited it a little earlier... But ultimately don't think that woulda mattered too much.

I was running straight sawdust though. Also I was growing in a jar and definitely packed it a little too tight on that run. It might jump off faster with the bran, who knows. :confused:



yeah my thought was bran make it easier go straight sub
it also means more nutrients so need to PC The substrate instead of pasteurized

I'll update in few months:awelol:


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Re: The Official Hericium Thread [Re: AbuSharka] * 1
    #27687765 - 03/08/22 04:13 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

LM is very aggressive and fast on grain.  It can fully colonize a quart jar in 2 weeks.  Spawn to 5lb block of sawdust, no bran ~1 month.  So from dropping agar to wheat, I'm harvesting consistently within 6 weeks.


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Re: The Official Hericium Thread [Re: Wrightii]
    #28426746 - 08/09/23 07:10 AM (5 months, 17 days ago)

Browsing through the edible forum part this still seems relevant.
I restructured it a bit, hope I can help someone out.


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Re: The Official Hericium Thread [Re: ReverendMyc]
    #28496078 - 10/08/23 01:43 AM (3 months, 19 days ago)

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Trying these in muda style pint jars. 9 days from inoculation of masters mix with colonized oats.





Rev, how did this go?


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Re: The Official Hericium Thread [Re: Floret]
    #28510246 - 10/19/23 05:58 AM (3 months, 8 days ago)

Hi all,

I see that Master's Mix is made with 50/50 mix of soy hulls and HW pellets.
My local tractor store doesnt have soy hulls but has soy flour as animal feed.
Do you think it could work as a supplement? Maybe not in the 50/50 ratio..

Thanks!


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Re: The Official Hericium Thread [Re: Robert Bobsky]
    #28510321 - 10/19/23 08:48 AM (3 months, 8 days ago)

Use any kind of bran, beet pulp, alfalfa pellets etc. Soy flour would probably work but you'll have to find the sweet spot. 20% is usually about right with most supplements.


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Re: The Official Hericium Thread [Re: deadmandave]
    #28522311 - 10/29/23 12:42 PM (2 months, 29 days ago)

This is the third flush of this block, and I've left it for longer than I usually do in an attempt to collect spores. It's growing teeth:


I plan to swab and streak on agar. Is that a good idea? What should I look for when spores are ready?


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Re: The Official Hericium Thread [Re: Bismillah]
    #28525297 - 11/01/23 09:21 AM (2 months, 26 days ago)

I have just cloned a wild Hericium abietis from southern oregon.

The culture is looking clean, but has not yet been tested in cultivation.

It appears that there are not many strains of Hericium abietis in circulation, and some of them are just mislabeled cultures of Hericium erinaceus.

I made a post in the marketplace about this culture:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28525293


Is anyone interested in this culture?


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Re: The Official Hericium Thread [Re: Generic]
    #28526655 - 11/02/23 02:04 PM (2 months, 25 days ago)

Hey,

I'm starting to grow Lions Mane in my second FC and so far I've been growing only sporeless oysters so I haven't had to think about the spores at all.

If I'm growing 25lb of LM weekly for a long time, do I need a mask when working inside the FC? Of course I'll try to pick them in the prime time before they'll drop them all, but I know this will not be the case every time. At what stage they drop the spores? I suppose later than the prime picking time which should be when the teeth are just starting to form being just a few millimeters long?

I guess more cleaning will be involved too. So far I've haven't really had to clean that much, it's been almost too easy with the cleaning.


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Re: The Official Hericium Thread [Re: spasm666]
    #28527348 - 11/03/23 01:05 AM (2 months, 24 days ago)

I'd say you have ample time if your variety is similar to mine. It's been going 2 weeks past harvest time and it started growing balls on it's teeth. No spores as far as I can tell:



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Re: The Official Hericium Thread [Re: Bismillah]
    #28529236 - 11/04/23 03:32 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

Put a piece of black paper under the fruiting body. I bet you will see spores within 24 hrs.


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Re: The Official Hericium Thread [Re: deadmandave]
    #28529879 - 11/05/23 05:06 AM (2 months, 22 days ago)

Oh yeah? So those balls drop spores you think? I've been swabbing a few times and got some nice bacterial growth. Also stuck a ball in a closed box hanging over foil. Swabbed the foil and grew some more bacteria..


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Re: The Official Hericium Thread [Re: Bismillah]
    #28531111 - 11/05/23 07:56 PM (2 months, 21 days ago)

Quick question for you long-time Hericium growers... This is my first time growing H. americanum, and my first time doing anything from spore I've collected. 

Was able to get one really good clean plate after a couple tries - swabbed with spores on 10/18, visible growth after 8-10 days, here it is today:




Since I've never done anything from spore before I'm wondering what is the thought process for selecting out samples to isolate for growing out/scaling up?



To my untrained eye, the mycelium circled in red looks weak and disorganized/fragmented while the 6 areas in blue look the strongest and most coherent and would be the ones I'd pick first for samples.  Does this make sense or would you sample a different area of the plate?


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Re: The Official Hericium Thread [Re: Bismillah]
    #28535507 - 11/09/23 11:13 AM (2 months, 18 days ago)

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I'd say you have ample time if your variety is similar to mine. It's been going 2 weeks past harvest time and it started growing balls on it's teeth. No spores as far as I can tell:







Wow I must say it's a bit hard to belive that no spores would have dropped with teeth so long. Maybe air currents took them away from you to see? Shouldn't they release the spores much earlier in general? Whether in this case spores dropped or not, I'd be happy to hear some other opinions. Thanks.


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Re: The Official Hericium Thread [Re: Bismillah] * 1
    #28536084 - 11/09/23 06:06 PM (2 months, 17 days ago)

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Oh yeah? So those balls drop spores you think? I've been swabbing a few times and got some nice bacterial growth. Also stuck a ball in a closed box hanging over foil. Swabbed the foil and grew some more bacteria..





The spores drop from the teeth like spasm said. Probably getting bacterial as those fruits are old and starting to decay.


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