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The fall of my tub :(
    #27284250 - 04/27/21 07:26 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

G'day people these are on there second flush and the first tub is way behind and I think I probs should chuck it, or could it be saved ?

Also how do you manage to get such a good blanket of shrooms and pins ?
i used the cvg tek for the bulk substrate and made sure of the water density also used BOD's tek for the growing chambers

These were both put into bulk substrate and colonized on the 2/4 and then 11 days later put into fruiting both gave me just under five hundred gr4ms each tub, but one is producing fuck all and the other has minimal growth


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Re: The fall of my tub :( [Re: WoodzyStomp]
    #27284261 - 04/27/21 07:46 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

They are both tired and worn out, and bacterial.  They might produce a bit more if you just keep them around longer.    I'd pretty much stop all misting and just wait.      The second pic, it looks like there might be some mold growing on the stems?    Or is that just cube mycelium? Hard to tell with the picture.


You might wanna cut a little closer to the sub next time:thumbup:


Clear totes will help your pinset as well. The mycelium and the mushrooms like light. They like light a lot. They told me:wink: haha.

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Re: The fall of my tub :( (moved) [Re: WoodzyStomp]
    #27284282 - 04/27/21 07:59 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I'm moving this to a more relevant forum so hopefully you'll get more responses.

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Re: The fall of my tub :( [Re: Notarealguy]
    #27284287 - 04/27/21 08:05 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Second pic im sure its mycelium on the stems but defs agree that surface looks dodge no green mold but still looks like something is holding it back

Will definitely cut closer next time i only just came across the waterlogging tek to make it float and use a knife to slice it all off easy i just used some sharp scissors lol

Doing up 2 more tubs over the weekend will do another CVG for both and see what happens

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Re: The fall of my tub :( [Re: WoodzyStomp]
    #27284296 - 04/27/21 08:12 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Best results I've had, as far as second flushes go, was letting the sub rest a day or two after harvest.

When you dunk or mist too early the stems tend to get waterlogged instead of being reclaimed by the sub.

If the harvest took a while, I'll mist it a little, but other than that I let em wait.    I've seen pins grow all over the old stumps after they've been recolonized.

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Re: The fall of my tub :( [Re: Notarealguy]
    #27284303 - 04/27/21 08:20 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for the reponses will chuck these bad boys in the corner and ignore em for abit see what happens :P

will try for better results on my next tubs

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Re: The fall of my tub :( [Re: Notarealguy]
    #27285708 - 04/28/21 08:53 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Actually would it be worth breaking up and mixing with some more substrate ?

Or i have a garden bed that never gets sun that i was going to put these in then put a layer of cow manure and pine mulch then put a tarp over it for a few weeks ? _
        \_ Kinda thinking it would be the same sorta thing as a tub but in a garden bed ?

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Re: The fall of my tub :( [Re: WoodzyStomp]
    #27285725 - 04/28/21 09:16 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Definitely not, haha.  It would just contam and die unfortunately.


You could put it in the garden though, that would probably work well.  I've had some nasty subs that were toast, but still grew well outside.  If you put them into a good spot outside nature really knows what to do with it.
    Mother nature puts my growing skills to shame.  Biggest shrooms I've ever seen were from spent tubs tossed in the garden. Big Ole girls.

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Re: The fall of my tub :( [Re: Notarealguy]
    #27285758 - 04/28/21 09:41 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

In gandaffs voice. We never had problem with contams taking out 12 jars like this with ol pf tek and sgfc, Monos are not KISS approved. They are overly complicated and rarely pay out and even full on commercial operations STILL loose tubs A LOT.

Edited by TigerStrike (04/28/21 09:44 PM)

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Re: The fall of my tub :( [Re: TigerStrike]
    #27285762 - 04/28/21 09:44 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I'm confused lol.  Wrong thread?

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Re: The fall of my tub :( [Re: Notarealguy]
    #27285802 - 04/28/21 10:21 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

No its not i was just pissed every single person on the planet goes straight to mono when pf tek is a safer easier cheaper way to shrooms. just bugs me and the tc are all like yea man bulk is cool yeet yeet instead of saying most of you should be using pf tek. 3/4 of all noobs go stright to bulk this is a mistake.

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Re: The fall of my tub :( [Re: TigerStrike]
    #27285808 - 04/28/21 10:27 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I see what you're saying, but if a person is dedicated, and can follow instructions very well they can do bulk on their first try.    As long as they use agar

Do you use spores directly onto grains?

I've had lots of success with spores to grain, but it's way riskier than using agar.

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Re: The fall of my tub :( [Re: Notarealguy]
    #27285820 - 04/28/21 10:43 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Thats the whole thing a noob sees their world through noob eyes. They hear yeah agar is good but then they hear others had success with spores to grains and shit. Also full on mushroom pros smashing bulk tub after tub... They get failures with agar and bulk. 1-3% failure for the best and 10% over all failure average for pros. I would guess that 92% of all noobs fail their first bulk as opposed to 64% failure for PF tek for whatever reason.

8% of people succeed their first bulk attempt. I may be off a bit what do you think?

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Re: The fall of my tub :( [Re: TigerStrike]
    #27285903 - 04/29/21 12:21 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I think it just all depends on how much time and effort a person puts into it.


If they are careful enough and research a lot before trying, I think about anyone could do it.

I'd guess maybe 50 percent succeed on their first attempt if they are well prepared.

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Re: The fall of my tub :( [Re: Notarealguy] * 1
    #27285906 - 04/29/21 12:26 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The problem with PF tek is that it's very difficult to maintain proper conditions with a SGFC. Most new growers make the SGFC too big and only have 3 cakes put in it and they get horrible yields because of that. It's much easier to maintain conditions in a shoebox

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Re: The fall of my tub :( [Re: tiptrippy]
    #27285995 - 04/29/21 03:17 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

:whathesaid:

That`s the point.
If people followed the teks to the tee, they would have success for sure.
Nowadays people don`t have the time to concentrate on things,
and rush through everything like there`s no tomorrow.
That`s why TC`s and other advise another way, and that`s also only suggestions.
Everybody stands in his own shoes.

But i know what TigerStrike means, personally i love BRF for it`s power
against bacteria, so not a bad start for beginners.

There are lots of people out doing cakes just for small doses :wink:

              :cookiemonster:


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Re: The fall of my tub :( [Re: Goatrider]
    #27287440 - 04/30/21 03:28 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

i watched and read for atleast 3 months of youtube (Philly Golden Teacher, 90 Second Mycology, MrFungi and one other i cant remember) unfortunately this place was down for a period of time but while it was up i was looking at teks n shit on here.

Definitely think its a learning experience i basically know what i did wrong just didn't have the knowledge of experience to be able to just look and see what was wrong or about to be wrong :smile:

Also here are the tubs today


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Re: The fall of my tub :( [Re: Notarealguy]
    #27288353 - 04/30/21 09:03 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

This is from today 370g :smile:


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