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Re: few beginner mistakes with all in one grow bag [Re: bubblegum]
    #27313150 - 05/18/21 01:23 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I think Lou explained how to do thangs in this thread
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4304709/fpart/1/vc/1

Just let them grow in the bag another 20 days see if things look better.  The time you'll waste trying to get these to finish you could start a new batch though.

You can see how white the mycelium should look


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Re: few beginner mistakes with all in one grow bag [Re: Lieutenant Pan]
    #27313199 - 05/18/21 02:50 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah those look hella bacterial. You may have had success if you prepped the grain bags yourself. I've never tried prepped bags before, but if they're prepared too moist, that leaves a much better chance for bacteria to grow. Either way, the LC was bacterial to begin with an so was the MSS.

As far as spawning to outdoors, it depends where you live. If it's a dry climate it's probably not worth it especially this time of year. You could rip the bags open, pick out the chunks of colonized myc, and spawn it to something small. I've done it in the past with shitty results but you'll get something from it.

Btw, that flow chart Goat posted sums up all the basics of mycology and is a great reference


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Re: few beginner mistakes with all in one grow bag [Re: TheDoobsker]
    #27313225 - 05/18/21 03:35 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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Lieutenant Pan said:
I think Lou explained how to do thangs in this thread
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4304709/fpart/1/vc/1

Just let them grow in the bag another 20 days see if things look better.  The time you'll waste trying to get these to finish you could start a new batch though.

You can see how white the mycelium should look




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Yeah those look hella bacterial. You may have had success if you prepped the grain bags yourself. I've never tried prepped bags before, but if they're prepared too moist, that leaves a much better chance for bacteria to grow. Either way, the LC was bacterial to begin with an so was the MSS.

As far as spawning to outdoors, it depends where you live. If it's a dry climate it's probably not worth it especially this time of year. You could rip the bags open, pick out the chunks of colonized myc, and spawn it to something small. I've done it in the past with shitty results but you'll get something from it.

Btw, that flow chart Goat posted sums up all the basics of mycology and is a great reference




ok no good,what makes u say the LC and the MSS was bacterial to start with?

ok, i like in australia, its nearly winter here.
i like the idea to grow it in somthing small, can u give me some ideas of how i could do this in somthing small? i gather u mean inside?

i have a few BRF and VERM bags, could i rip open a few of them and use the content to grow on? if put the BRF and VERM in a plastc tub or somthing..is this as good idea?


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Re: few beginner mistakes with all in one grow bag [Re: bubblegum]
    #27313260 - 05/18/21 05:02 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: few beginner mistakes with all in one grow bag [Re: myc_ousin_vinny]
    #27313268 - 05/18/21 05:12 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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How to do S3(shoeboxes stupid simple)




i have 3 all in one bags with growing mycelium as per the photos i showed, they are all different strains. should i only mix the one strain into the shoe box? would the LC be the best to start or? what one looks best to use to start?


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Re: few beginner mistakes with all in one grow bag [Re: bubblegum]
    #27313292 - 05/18/21 05:49 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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How to do S3(shoeboxes stupid simple)




i have 3 all in one bags with growing mycelium as per the photos i showed, they are all different strains. should i only mix the one strain into the shoe box? would the LC be the best to start or? what one looks best to use to start?




I dumped a crappy grow bag into a shoebox once and it fruited pretty decent. Won't do it again but alas...Yes, one bag per shoebox I think... I didn't follow a tek for that part...


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Re: few beginner mistakes with all in one grow bag [Re: myc_ousin_vinny]
    #27313297 - 05/18/21 05:58 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

did u just dump the full content of the bag into the box?
out the the 3 photos what one looks best to use?


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Re: few beginner mistakes with all in one grow bag [Re: bubblegum]
    #27313470 - 05/18/21 08:51 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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did u just dump the full content of the bag into the box?
out the the 3 photos what one looks best to use?




Yes. I don't see three photos in your original post.


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Re: few beginner mistakes with all in one grow bag [Re: myc_ousin_vinny] * 1
    #27313761 - 05/18/21 12:27 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I tried lol


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Re: few beginner mistakes with all in one grow bag [Re: bubblegum]
    #27313787 - 05/18/21 12:49 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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ok no good,what makes u say the LC and the MSS was bacterial to start with?





Just because I would assume the bags were sterilized, but who knows?
Assuming your bags are setup proper with the right gas exchange filter. If they are contaminated it's either improper sterilization of the bags, dirty syringes, or contamination during inoculation. The bags being too wet won't make bacteria appear, it'll just give any introduced bacteria a better chance to live.

I would think dumping the whole contents of the bag will give you less of a chance of success. I'd only use the colonized chunks


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Re: few beginner mistakes with all in one grow bag [Re: myc_ousin_vinny]
    #27314131 - 05/18/21 06:28 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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did u just dump the full content of the bag into the box?
out the the 3 photos what one looks best to use?




Yes. I don't see three photos in your original post.




page 3, here they are again:








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Re: few beginner mistakes with all in one grow bag [Re: bubblegum]
    #27314220 - 05/18/21 07:51 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I think bubblegum needs Gandalf or a higher power to save this grow.


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Re: few beginner mistakes with all in one grow bag [Re: Lieutenant Pan]
    #27314251 - 05/18/21 08:30 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

yeah not sure if i should just yuck this grow out, i have another grow in the works.


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Re: few beginner mistakes with all in one grow bag [Re: bubblegum]
    #27341142 - 06/09/21 06:02 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

hows this bag looking?

i just took more photos of the lot:




whats everyone think? should i continue with them or?


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Re: few beginner mistakes with all in one grow bag [Re: bubblegum]
    #27341436 - 06/09/21 10:36 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

You can try to shake the bag up but it's still too wet.  I told you that a month ago lol.  If you made your own jars or bags you would be fruiting by now.


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Re: few beginner mistakes with all in one grow bag [Re: Lieutenant Pan]
    #27341449 - 06/09/21 10:42 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

ok, what will shaking it up do? and because its too wet what does that mean exactly? whats the outcome of a wet bag?


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Re: few beginner mistakes with all in one grow bag [Re: bubblegum]
    #27341469 - 06/09/21 11:00 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Hoe does everyone think these PF Tek bags are going: im hoping they are all good.



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Re: few beginner mistakes with all in one grow bag [Re: bubblegum]
    #27341537 - 06/09/21 11:49 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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Hoe does everyone think these PF Tek bags are going: im hoping they are all good.






Hard to say from a pic this early but they definitely look better than those other bags you posted. I’m sure you have heard this before but if can’t be bothered to build a hood or own a PC you should at least do your own PF tek. When I got started I did cakes and spawned them to shoeboxes. Got some decent flushes while learning things that helped me move forward. Your just spinning tires hopping to get lucky. I’m sure those bags ain’t cheap either. All that said I hope your grow works out.


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Re: few beginner mistakes with all in one grow bag [Re: Bph] * 1
    #27342087 - 06/09/21 06:58 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I'd just do more research so you understand what's going on a lot of these questions have been answered 6000 times in the forum.


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Re: few beginner mistakes with all in one grow bag [Re: Lieutenant Pan]
    #27342372 - 06/10/21 12:16 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

One thing i need to say.

Pretty great :smile:
You have a pressure canner
You have a flowhood/ffu
You are ambitious


Pretty meh :mad2:
You use foreign LC untested
You buy premade growbags
You are not into agar yet


Honestly i think you got confused cause you wanted too much from the start.
It makes me sad when people bury their money on things making their life hard.
You`ll make it, i`m pretty sure.
But you really need to do some more research, as there are some basics missing.
For example that excessive moisture in the bags is an issue,
as the bags are already creamy bacterial (the thread starter bags).
Take your time to master the single stages of cultivation,
and in no time you`ll have the house full of healthy spawn,
you don`t know what to do with.
So do yourself a favour and get hands on agar,
do some research here, and many problems will resolve themselves :wink:

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