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If You Smell Fresh Soil, TOSS IT
    #27282922 - 04/26/21 04:30 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Hey all,

So I didnt want to post this til I confirmed it but I know for sure now, trich smells exactly like fresh soil. Im assuming thats what actually gives soil its smell. Cause its identical.
Im so sure of this id suggest adding it to contamination ID lists as specifically an indicator (almost 100%) of green mold/trich.
Ive had this with 3 jars and the last one I couldnt see the trich at all until I REALLY looked for it. It was hiding in the dry verm layer of the jar, idk how tf that happened but thats a different thread. I knew it was there cuz as I was moving the jars I caught a wiff of fresh soil, smelled each jar and found the one it was coming from. Its a strong smell and should be very familiar to you.
It took 15mins of searching for it before I found a tiny spot of green I could see by looking at it from the right angle that I could see the verm layer ontop.
So again, fresh soil smell=green. Every single time. If u smell soil, throw it tf away without opening!

This is also how I found trich in a monotub, it smelled exactly like soil and the other BRF jar I had with trich also had the smell. Ive never smelled it from coir or a healthy sample of myc. Youll know it if u smell it.


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Re: If You Smell Fresh Soil, TOSS IT [Re: Ashtray161]
    #27283024 - 04/26/21 06:05 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

im guessing by the lack of responses people are like "well duh everyone knows that" but i asked in the discord the first time i got a wiff of this smell and noone knew if it was bad or not so for any other newbs out there like me
If it smells like soil toss it!

Also mayb this shld be added to the signs of green mold contam. People talk about smells w bacteria all the time but this is a really good way to detect trich when its hiding


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Re: If You Smell Fresh Soil, TOSS IT [Re: Ashtray161] * 1
    #27283199 - 04/26/21 09:14 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I think that people are not responding because this is not a reliable way to detect trich. If it were then someone would have already discovered it. Not the new grower who only has a couple grows under his belt. No offense man

I smell weird shit in all of my tubs yet they still produce great flushes

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Re: If You Smell Fresh Soil, TOSS IT [Re: tiptrippy]
    #27283221 - 04/26/21 09:47 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

i mean my experience and ability to perceive a clear connection between a very strong and specific smell to every instance of green mold ive gotten so far is just as valid as a more experienced grower.
You dont have to believe me but id be willing to bet money on it im so sure of it at this point.


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Re: If You Smell Fresh Soil, TOSS IT [Re: Ashtray161]
    #27283344 - 04/27/21 01:28 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I don't think scaremongering over a pretty common smell in a tub of stuff that already smells pretty earthy is going to be too helpful.

I think most experienced growers, wether they realise it or not, use a combination of factors to identify contamination (unless it's a bright green spot staring you right in the face). Tossing something because it smells like soil might be jumping the gun.

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Re: If You Smell Fresh Soil, TOSS IT [Re: Zakkery]
    #27283349 - 04/27/21 01:37 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

mkay :thumbup:


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Re: If You Smell Fresh Soil, TOSS IT [Re: Ashtray161]
    #27283364 - 04/27/21 02:03 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

There is no reason to throw away a container just because it had a contamination occur in it.soap and water will clean it up just fine.

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Re: If You Smell Fresh Soil, TOSS IT [Re: Ashtray161]
    #27283366 - 04/27/21 02:05 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

ur right ashtray...its a very tell tale smell...they obv never smelt it before as far beyond earthy..RR has said this forever.. if doesnt smell like fresh mush its bad... trichs so fast that green is only a day away if can smell it..

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Re: If You Smell Fresh Soil, TOSS IT [Re: normalperson]
    #27283370 - 04/27/21 02:13 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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normalperson said:
There is no reason to throw away a container just because it had a contamination occur in it.soap and water will clean it up just fine.




This is u trolling right? I never understand when ppl are fucking w me but ur fucking w me right? lol

I know this isnt true btw im just really hoping this person does too. Either way giving bad advice is a bad show mate


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Re: If You Smell Fresh Soil, TOSS IT [Re: the man]
    #27283371 - 04/27/21 02:14 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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ur right ashtray...its a very tell tale smell...they obv never smelt it before as far beyond earthy..RR has said this forever.. if doesnt smell like fresh mush its bad... trichs so fast that green is only a day away if can smell it..




OKay so im crazy then!! lol like I know someone else has had to of smelled and noticed this before


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Re: If You Smell Fresh Soil, TOSS IT [Re: Ashtray161]
    #27283380 - 04/27/21 02:25 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

the physical container is ok to use again..

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Re: If You Smell Fresh Soil, TOSS IT [Re: Ashtray161]
    #27283381 - 04/27/21 02:25 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Ashtray161 said:
Quote:

normalperson said:
There is no reason to throw away a container just because it had a contamination occur in it.soap and water will clean it up just fine.




This is u trolling right? I never understand when ppl are fucking w me but ur fucking w me right? lol

I know this isnt true btw im just really hoping this person does too. Either way giving bad advice is a bad show mate




He's talking about just dump the substrate out or the spawn out of the jar and reuse the container after you wash it out. And he's completely right. If you're throwing away every tub or jar that had a contam you're wasting $. I've reused plenty jars that get contam, just run em through a dish washer and there perfectly fine. I've also reused tubs that had contams pop up. Just like he said I washed with soap n water and next tubs went off without a hitch.

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Re: If You Smell Fresh Soil, TOSS IT [Re: Ashtray161]
    #27283390 - 04/27/21 02:53 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I'm not trolling you Ashtray, I still have 1/2 pint jars from when I 1st started growing 30+years ago. I compost everything also, veggies love Trich, grains, and Choir. Add a little Calcium Nitrate and you'll have the best Tomatoes in town.

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Re: If You Smell Fresh Soil, TOSS IT [Re: normalperson]
    #27283399 - 04/27/21 03:17 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

oh oh oh im sorry i totally read this as u could clean the contam w soap and water and the myc would be fine, lol i know u can clean the jar xD


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Re: If You Smell Fresh Soil, TOSS IT [Re: Ashtray161]
    #27283518 - 04/27/21 06:44 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Well.. if I have a moldy tub I just clean it with soap n water and use it when ready:shrug:

I only toss for smell if it smells like diapers or pinesol. Dirt smell? Keep it rollin

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Re: If You Smell Fresh Soil, TOSS IT [Re: mushboy]
    #27283524 - 04/27/21 06:53 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

i disagree man. And im not saying just a "dirt" smell.
I mean like fresh potting soil or like PNW deepwood forest soil.


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Re: If You Smell Fresh Soil, TOSS IT [Re: Ashtray161]
    #27283551 - 04/27/21 07:21 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

...you mean.. musty

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Re: If You Smell Fresh Soil, TOSS IT [Re: mushboy]
    #27283555 - 04/27/21 07:26 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

nope, not in the slightest. It was familiar and pleasant. Not musty in the way i experience it.
I mean, mayb.. idfk. It smells like soil lol


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Re: If You Smell Fresh Soil, TOSS IT [Re: mushboy]
    #27283563 - 04/27/21 07:35 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I think telling noobs to toss based on a soil smell isn’t great advice because they’re not gonna know the difference for the most part as has been said... maybe “hey keep an eye on these substrates if you smell soil”. Trich turns green pretty quickly anyhow and if they’re keeping an eye on it, they can take it outside and burn it in the fiery pits of hell (jk, just throw it in a compost pile outside) once that first green starts showing itself.  Noobs are freaked out as it is.. I see perfectly fine subs being tossed based on your advice

I know you’re well-intentioned and trying to save ppl from getting trich all over their grow areas

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Re: If You Smell Fresh Soil, TOSS IT [Re: Ashtray161]
    #27283565 - 04/27/21 07:38 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I toss things when they look bad.
I love the smell of healthy Myc though, it gives me a deep satisfying feeling and reminds me of the forest floor. For me I wait for visual confirmation before tossing.

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