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Kind of Disappointing Pinset but FIRST EVER PENIS ENVYS!!
#27283122 - 04/26/21 07:53 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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So its a pretty sparse pinset, it was MSS to BRF to coir so because of the MSS factor i wasnt expecting too much but I have hope ill get a decent flush out of it. Either way i DO HAVE PEs finally!! for the first time ever! Im gonna use some of these fruits to clone and hopefully get better flushes in the future.
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Re: Kind of Disappointing Pinset but FIRST EVER PENIS ENVYS!! [Re: Ashtray161]
#27283159 - 04/26/21 08:31 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Just for reference this is a MS grow.

It's much more important to nail down healthy spawn and proper conditions to get better pinsets as a new grower before trying to focus on clones
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Re: Kind of Disappointing Pinset but FIRST EVER PENIS ENVYS!! [Re: Ashtray161]
#27283165 - 04/26/21 08:36 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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They will need to mature a little more to be absolutely certain, but those don't look like PE... they look like standard cubes. That happens occasionally with PE syringes. Sadly, I speak from experience.
Perhaps someone more experienced will chime in. I hope I'm wrong!
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Re: Kind of Disappointing Pinset but FIRST EVER PENIS ENVYS!! [Re: tiptrippy]
#27283169 - 04/26/21 08:40 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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i feel u, i had been buying premade stuff cuz i didnt have a PC, im gonna make my own for the next round. Saved up enou for a PC so yea. I think I had more bacteria contam than I realized, I definitely havent done everything totally right (first and bggest mistake is buying premade, i know) but I think starting to clone will teach me more discipline and the like. Im working on getting better on all fronts.
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Re: Kind of Disappointing Pinset but FIRST EVER PENIS ENVYS!! [Re: Kosmick]
#27283172 - 04/26/21 08:44 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Kosmick said: They will need to mature a little more to be absolutely certain, but those don't look like PE... they look like standard cubes. That happens occasionally with PE syringes. Sadly, I speak from experience.
Perhaps someone more experienced will chime in. I hope I'm wrong!
IM pretty sure these are PE... they look nothing like any of the other cubes Ive grown and look very much like the pics ive seen of PE pins. I may of labeled it wrong but i dont think so.
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Re: Kind of Disappointing Pinset but FIRST EVER PENIS ENVYS!! [Re: Ashtray161]
#27283207 - 04/26/21 09:20 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ya you'll know in a few days either way. This is from the same culture that I'm running that's definitely PE. They look kinda like regular pins in the beginning then grow into penises.

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Re: Kind of Disappointing Pinset but FIRST EVER PENIS ENVYS!! [Re: WyoMX]
#27283213 - 04/26/21 09:29 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Look like dick pins to me. Wyo you got a neat PE pheno. Is that SWPE?
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Re: Kind of Disappointing Pinset but FIRST EVER PENIS ENVYS!! [Re: The Fresh Prints]
#27285118 - 04/28/21 12:08 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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huh? What SWPE?
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Re: Kind of Disappointing Pinset but FIRST EVER PENIS ENVYS!! [Re: Ashtray161]
#27285125 - 04/28/21 12:15 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I wouldn't clone those personally, back to the gene pool I say.
As the honorable tiptrippy said you should put your energy into nailing good spawn and substrate prep and fruiting conditions. No offense implied.
The martha probably isnt doing you any favors. I recommend to have it always full to the max and the substrates will self humidify. You are unlikely to have it properly dialed in with it sparsely filled and relying on cheap humidiity controller and uneven airflow inside causing wildly fluctuating conditions.
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Re: Kind of Disappointing Pinset but FIRST EVER PENIS ENVYS!! [Re: sandman420]
#27285141 - 04/28/21 12:32 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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sandman420 said: I wouldn't clone those personally, back to the gene pool I say.
As the honorable tiptrippy said you should put your energy into nailing good spawn and substrate prep and fruiting conditions. No offense implied.
The martha probably isnt doing you any favors. I recommend to have it always full to the max and the substrates will self humidify. You are unlikely to have it properly dialed in with it sparsely filled and relying on cheap humidiity controller and uneven airflow inside causing wildly fluctuating conditions.
Why wouldnt you clone those?
Yeah ive been working w all premade stuff which I think has been a huge part of it. My new PC will b here on the 3rd, ill be makin my own sub and jars from now on.
Just curious what it is about the martha thats so bad? And can u be more specific on what the difference is between the humidity and airflow theyd get outside of the martha? Like, what about the plastic being there makes it so much less friendly for mushies? Cuz other than the plastic the martha is just shelves so... I just genuinely dont understand what it is i need "dialed" in other than mayb the sub being of poor quality. Other than that they have 99% RH and should be getting tons of FAE according to all the teks. Mayb too much which is why im trying just leaving the lid on and having them on a shelf outside the martha w the 5 I have fruiting now.
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Re: Kind of Disappointing Pinset but FIRST EVER PENIS ENVYS!! [Re: Ashtray161] 1
#27285158 - 04/28/21 12:42 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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About the martha the problem is that it is a huge airspace. When you are relying on a sensor and humidifier to take care of the environment then your environment is only as good as the sensor accuracy, multiplied by sensor placement, multiplied by how much space is away from the sensor, multiplied by how well the air is mixed inside vertically, and probably a lot of other things that factor in.
You can get by this by totally skipping any sensors and humidifiers and keeping the thing FULL of substrates, preferably cased but not necessary, and the result is the tent now is self humidifying and you can count on the conditions inside being good. Literally nothing else but the tent and cased subs chock full, probably would want at least 1 more tier though if you can finagle that. That way there is more substrate. 2 levels isnt enough probably. Like I said jam packed with subs = self humidifying.
And I personally wouldn't clone them for keeps because the flush is bad. Probably more environmental than genetic but you never know. Maybe clone for practice though.
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Re: Kind of Disappointing Pinset but FIRST EVER PENIS ENVYS!! [Re: sandman420] 1
#27285170 - 04/28/21 12:47 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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sandman420 said: About the martha the problem is that it is a huge airspace. When you are relying on a sensor and humidifier to take care of the environment then your environment is only as good as the sensor accuracy, multiplied by sensor placement, multiplied by how much space is away from the sensor, multiplied by how well the air is mixed inside vertically, and probably a lot of other things that factor in.
You can get by this by totally skipping any sensors and humidifiers and keeping the thing FULL of substrates, preferably cased but not necessary, and the result is the tent now is self humidifying and you can count on the conditions inside being good. Literally nothing else but the tent and cased subs chock full, probably would want at least 1 more tier though if you can finagle that. That way there is more substrate. 2 levels isnt enough probably. Like I said jam packed with subs = self humidifying.
And I personally wouldn't clone them for keeps because the flush is bad. Probably more environmental than genetic but you never know. Maybe clone for practice though.
Right on that makes sense. Im about to be birthing at least 18 more shoeboxes over the next week or so if the spawn is all good, so ill be able to fill it up and try to see if that helps. Theres 4 levels in there already.. not 2. well 3 I guess if u dont count the very bottom shelf. Ill try jamming it packed full of shoeboxes over the week and post the results. Ill also be trying a few other things to see what conditions give me the best results. I appreciate the help
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Re: Kind of Disappointing Pinset but FIRST EVER PENIS ENVYS!! [Re: Ashtray161]
#27285172 - 04/28/21 12:48 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Excellent good luck with your next batch!
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