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Where's Waldo?
#27273094 - 03/28/21 12:43 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Which comes closest to your beliefs about what happens when you die?
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Re: Where's Waldo? [Re: Asante] 1
#27273100 - 03/28/21 12:47 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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nothing to vote on there for me.
after death you live on in other people who continue to carry you in their lives.
during life you are a dynamic pattern but you are not what you think you are (anatta)
Icelander was obsessed with death, and has gone to meet his obsession, at his own hand I do believe.
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redgreenvines said: nothing to vote on there for me.
after death you live on in other people who continue to carry you in their lives.
during life you are a dynamic pattern but you are not what you think you are (anatta)
Icelander was obsessed with death, and has gone to meet his obsession, at his own hand I do believe.
Provided in 6 billion years those people are not arround, are you then, gone? are you an annihilationist?
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Re: Where's Waldo? [Re: Asante]
#27273117 - 03/28/21 01:00 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's largely up to me, I become an immortal spirit or I just cease existence. I thought about becoming one with god, but who knows, maybe I will do that, although it isn't dissimilar to ceasing existence.
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Re: Where's Waldo? [Re: Asante]
#27273137 - 03/28/21 01:17 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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redgreenvines said: nothing to vote on there for me.
after death you live on in other people who continue to carry you in their lives.
during life you are a dynamic pattern but you are not what you think you are (anatta)
Icelander was obsessed with death, and has gone to meet his obsession, at his own hand I do believe.
Provided in 6 billion years those people are not arround, are you then, gone? are you an annihilationist?
I am more of an evolving community memorist what are you?
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I'm the totality of everything in all of its guises, currently in the guise of Asante replying to you.
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Re: Where's Waldo? [Re: Asante]
#27273159 - 03/28/21 01:30 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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so if you are pretending to be Asante? i'm pretending to be groucho marx!
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There is no pretending involved, Asante and you are appendages of me, extensions, logical conclusions of the wedding between the interactions and amount of energy contained within this particular universe, this one guise of me.
every part of me is essential to the whole because it is a manifestation of the laws and constants this universe consists of.
You are as important as a grain of sand and as insignificant as the milky way galaxy.
Theres levels of you, the level that is all things and, for instance, the ego.
But everything and everyone, its all you.
Each part contains the whole and is solely comprised of the whole.
The level of you that is pretending to be groucho marx is perhaps not aware of the level of you that IS Groucho Marx.
You're speaking, in your post, from the part, I'm speaking, in these 2 posts sandwiching yours, from the Whole.
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Re: Where's Waldo? [Re: Asante]
#27273200 - 03/28/21 02:08 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think you could be mixing up one part with the other part, and the devil is certainly in the details. Anyway, if you cannot just get it together for a bit and be one or the other, well, it's a great act if you can get away with it!
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Re: Where's Waldo? [Re: Asante]
#27273230 - 03/28/21 02:27 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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"So did he tell you why he did it? Why you're here? ... Jeez-us! What a mind job. So you're here to save the world. What do you say to somethin' like that?"
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"Just between you and me, you don't believe it, do you? You don't believe this guy is the One?"
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redgreenvines said: I think you could be mixing up one part with the other part, and the devil is certainly in the details. Anyway, if you cannot just get it together for a bit and be one or the other, well, it's a great act if you can get away with it!
Perhaps its you who doesn';t understand, and solve the dilemma by projecting your confusion over the one telling you that which confused you.
Since you don't seem intent on finding out, we'll never know.
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Re: Where's Waldo? [Re: Asante]
#27273261 - 03/28/21 02:45 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology
None of the above. Its pointless to come here for any of the three.
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Re: Where's Waldo? [Re: Asante]
#27273266 - 03/28/21 02:48 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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This debate-oriented forum is for the discussion of philosophical ideas that can be backed up with some sort of thoughtful logic and reasoning. Topics may include epistemology, ethics, metaphysics/ontology, the psychology of mind and the sociological study of cultural and individual behavior. Personal attacks will not be tolerated, though critical analysis of the ideas presented is encouraged. If you wish to express your ideas in a less critical environment, consider visiting our Spirituality & Mysticism forum.
Often people play the devils advocate even when they agree with the premise, to further discussion.
A "guise" as you say, it's not limited to your abilities :P
I personally kinda sucks at it, but I try it sometimes.
You can't know if what someone is saying is their personal view, only that they are critically analyzing or questioning the one that is presented, unless of course they tell you.
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Re: Where's Waldo? [Re: Asante]
#27273277 - 03/28/21 02:57 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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The premise being based in belief, leaves a lot to be desired in philosophy. It's kinda hard to nail down opinions and beliefs. Is someone going to debate you that your opinion or belief is not your opinion or belief?
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Re: Where's Waldo? [Re: teknix]
#27273317 - 03/28/21 03:19 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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This debate-oriented forum is for the discussion of philosophical ideas that can be backed up with some sort of thoughtful logic and reasoning.
If you feel that that's being done here, have fun with it.
There isnt even the beginning of a proper inquiry.
I'm out.
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Re: Where's Waldo? [Re: Asante] 1
#27273328 - 03/28/21 03:26 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Here Asante:
https://simplicable.com/new/falsifiability#:~:text=Experiments%20%20%20Alternative%20Hypothesis%20%20%20Causality,%20Natural%20Experiment%20%205%20more%20rows%20
There is not anything innately malicious going on, it's imagined.
"Falsifiability is more or less synonymous with testability as it applies to testing that a hypothesis is incorrect. Generally speaking, no amount of experimentation can prove that a hypothesis is correct but a single experiment can prove that it is incorrect. This is the reason that falsifiability is an important principle of science."
These sort of rules kinda go without saying, so people who are adverse to ever being wrong, feel like they are attacked. I don't mind being wrong, and I generally appreciate it that someone took time to show me the inconsistencies in the hypothesis. (When genuine)
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Re: Where's Waldo? [Re: teknix] 1
#27273336 - 03/28/21 03:34 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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I am not sure who left, exactly was it the great big eternal Asante? or the little weenie beanie account holder like me which is only superficially different.
anyway he gets away with it all the time - it has become his modus operandi, and I don't blame him, there is room enough.
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Re: Where's Waldo? [Re: Asante]
#27273342 - 03/28/21 03:37 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Difficult to pick because it's a matter of identification. I am (my personality matrix and genetic expression) like a bubble in a boiling pot. I have a relatively short life, but there are plenty of bubbles. When this particular body drops, it's particular expression pops. All the qualities that made it a bubble are gone. But a bubble is a bubble, we could call the overall product of the pot humans, or life, which goes on as long as conditions are favorable.
The universe will likely expire. I suppose that potential remains, that in the context of the/a universe and it's subsequent spacetime, there is a fundamental order which operates in a more continuous way, truly eternal. I don't suppose that consciousness exists in all orders but that consciousness is an eternal potential which is expressed under specific conditions.
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Re: Where's Waldo? [Re: Asante]
#27273353 - 03/28/21 03:46 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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People trying to get out of being wrong happens a lot, and usually that's about when the fallacies come in. hehehe.
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