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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: Stable Genius]
    #28477144 - 09/20/23 08:48 PM (4 months, 5 days ago)

Viva Larouche!

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An abiding feature of the Larouchian, and by extension ACP, outlook is that only they can save society from the constant state of crisis in which it exists, from the precipice of imminent financial or other disaster on which it teeters. Were they not prophets of doom they would be nothing, and cease to exist.

Federal election platform policy number five – “No ‘bail-in’ of bank deposits” – is one such example. At the launch, Craig Isherwood explained bail-in as “an attempt by the international financial oligarchy centred in the city of London and Wall Street to steal people’s deposits.” He claimed the ACP “raised merry hell” when it got wind, years in advance, of a supposed move to introduce legislation in Australia that would enable bail-in.

According to the ACP website the exposure draft of the claimed bail-in bill was released by the Government “on a Friday afternoon when there would be no media attention. Only a sharp-eyed CEC staffer spotted it and recognised it as bail-in, enabling the CEC to mobilise a massive nationwide campaign against it [the need for] which continues to this day” because the Government “snuck” it through the Senate.

The conspiratorial claims made about the bill’s content and progress have been comprehensively refuted by legal experts.

The ACP’s cash ban bill campaign dovetailed nicely with its bank bail-in obsession. According to Larouchian logic, the former would force people to transfer funds via banks. Once in the system, the funds would be trapped and could be used to “bail-in” and prop up the banks

Shills for China and backers of Putin

The ACP’s election platform promotes two positions relating to foreign policy that recur repeatedly in its literature: deference to the Chinese Communist Party, and hostility to the US and UK.

According to the ACP’s twisted world view, it is China, and fellow travellers like Russia, that are good and peaceful global citizens, and the US, the UK and a subservient Australia that are the aggressive warmongers.

While China pursues its geopolitical goals through its Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) and territorial expansion in the Pacific, the ACP platform calls on Australia to “end the dangerous ‘drums of war’ rhetoric pushing Australia to join the USA and UK in confronting China, and prioritise diplomacy to resolve tensions respectfully.,” Further, it demands Australia assert “an independent foreign policy in Australia’s national interest” that includes opposing “the dangerous Anglo-American strategic escalation against China and Russia,” withdrawing from the Five Eyes intelligence-sharing partnership, and “joining our regional neighbours and most of the rest of the world in participating in the Belt and Road Initiative to raise global living standards through infrastructure investments.”

ACP’s National Research Director Robert Barwick, who is standing with Craig Isherwood on the party’s Senate ticket for Victoria, recently gave an interview on YouTube headed “Why Australia is mad at China-Solomon Islands cooperation”. His interviewer was Li Jingjing, a reporter for CGTN, the international division of Chinese Communist Party state-owned media, but not identified as such on this clip.

Barwick told Li (from 15:00) “Our government has been over the top in its condemnation of Russia for invading Ukraine. They have been so moralising, it’s as if we, Australia, are pure as the driven snow.”

He continued, “(Australia’s) been saying that Russia’s position that Ukraine is its red line – because if Ukraine has a deal with NATO, that is an existential threat to Russia and therefore that cannot happen – we’ve been saying Russia’s position is illegitimate. Yet now we are saying that the Solomon Islands is our red line, even though it’s not on our border. Ukraine is one millimetre from Russia’s border. This is 2,000 kilometres away over an ocean, yet somehow that is our red line. It is completely hypocritical and in fact the language of our politicians has absolutely justified everything that Vladimir Putin has done in Ukraine this year.” “Exactly!” responded Li.

https://aijac.org.au/fresh-air/laughing-all-the-way-to-the-postal-bank-the-larouchites-in-the-2022-election/




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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: sudly]
    #28477188 - 09/20/23 09:14 PM (4 months, 5 days ago)

Lmao now you’re quoting the fucking zionists in Australia as a reputable source of criticism?


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: Stable Genius]
    #28477210 - 09/20/23 09:43 PM (4 months, 5 days ago)

Everyone's a zionist Nazi scum at the feet of putins greatest cum guzzler!


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: sudly]
    #28477225 - 09/20/23 10:04 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

Maybe you shouldn’t start drinking so early in the day?  :shrug:


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: Stable Genius]
    #28477247 - 09/20/23 10:52 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

I'm just trying to match the shitfuckery you... espouse!


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: sudly]
    #28477630 - 09/21/23 12:49 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

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sudly said:
Viva Larouche!

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An abiding feature of the Larouchian, and by extension ACP, outlook is that only they can save society from the constant state of crisis in which it exists, from the precipice of imminent financial or other disaster on which it teeters. Were they not prophets of doom they would be nothing, and cease to exist.

Federal election platform policy number five – “No ‘bail-in’ of bank deposits” – is one such example. At the launch, Craig Isherwood explained bail-in as “an attempt by the international financial oligarchy centred in the city of London and Wall Street to steal people’s deposits.” He claimed the ACP “raised merry hell” when it got wind, years in advance, of a supposed move to introduce legislation in Australia that would enable bail-in.

According to the ACP website the exposure draft of the claimed bail-in bill was released by the Government “on a Friday afternoon when there would be no media attention. Only a sharp-eyed CEC staffer spotted it and recognised it as bail-in, enabling the CEC to mobilise a massive nationwide campaign against it [the need for] which continues to this day” because the Government “snuck” it through the Senate.

The conspiratorial claims made about the bill’s content and progress have been comprehensively refuted by legal experts.

The ACP’s cash ban bill campaign dovetailed nicely with its bank bail-in obsession. According to Larouchian logic, the former would force people to transfer funds via banks. Once in the system, the funds would be trapped and could be used to “bail-in” and prop up the banks

Shills for China and backers of Putin

The ACP’s election platform promotes two positions relating to foreign policy that recur repeatedly in its literature: deference to the Chinese Communist Party, and hostility to the US and UK.

According to the ACP’s twisted world view, it is China, and fellow travellers like Russia, that are good and peaceful global citizens, and the US, the UK and a subservient Australia that are the aggressive warmongers.

While China pursues its geopolitical goals through its Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) and territorial expansion in the Pacific, the ACP platform calls on Australia to “end the dangerous ‘drums of war’ rhetoric pushing Australia to join the USA and UK in confronting China, and prioritise diplomacy to resolve tensions respectfully.,” Further, it demands Australia assert “an independent foreign policy in Australia’s national interest” that includes opposing “the dangerous Anglo-American strategic escalation against China and Russia,” withdrawing from the Five Eyes intelligence-sharing partnership, and “joining our regional neighbours and most of the rest of the world in participating in the Belt and Road Initiative to raise global living standards through infrastructure investments.”

ACP’s National Research Director Robert Barwick, who is standing with Craig Isherwood on the party’s Senate ticket for Victoria, recently gave an interview on YouTube headed “Why Australia is mad at China-Solomon Islands cooperation”. His interviewer was Li Jingjing, a reporter for CGTN, the international division of Chinese Communist Party state-owned media, but not identified as such on this clip.

Barwick told Li (from 15:00) “Our government has been over the top in its condemnation of Russia for invading Ukraine. They have been so moralising, it’s as if we, Australia, are pure as the driven snow.”

He continued, “(Australia’s) been saying that Russia’s position that Ukraine is its red line – because if Ukraine has a deal with NATO, that is an existential threat to Russia and therefore that cannot happen – we’ve been saying Russia’s position is illegitimate. Yet now we are saying that the Solomon Islands is our red line, even though it’s not on our border. Ukraine is one millimetre from Russia’s border. This is 2,000 kilometres away over an ocean, yet somehow that is our red line. It is completely hypocritical and in fact the language of our politicians has absolutely justified everything that Vladimir Putin has done in Ukraine this year.” “Exactly!” responded Li.

https://aijac.org.au/fresh-air/laughing-all-the-way-to-the-postal-bank-the-larouchites-in-the-2022-election/




What'll the cpa do with banks?




The Citizens Party want to see a postal bank set up, similar to how the Commonwealth Bank ran before the banks were deregulated.
They’ve been doing a lot of campaigning on this issue to try and stop the big four banks abandoning regional Australia.

This is the interview Robbie Barwick gave with Li Jingjing that the Zionists criticised in that article you quoted.
Worth listening to if you want to understand what the ACP is about, instead of trying to shamelessly score points.

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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: Stable Genius]
    #28477773 - 09/21/23 03:28 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

Yer a commie shill! An ionist ingret! A conspiracy mutter! A multilingual abotuarist!

A crap peddler! Acp! Acp! Acp!

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The ACP are unabashed defenders of the Chinese Government, and Barwick has been their point person in this campaign. A search of the ACP website yields nearly 100 items published in 2022 alone, still with a few months to go. In 2021 it was 114, in 2020 120. It’s a safe bet that China’s depiction in most, if not all, of these, was uncriticalDays before the UN released the latest report to condemn the Chinese Government for its human rights abuses of the Uyghur people, a senior official of a conspiracy-toting, pro-China, Australian political party was accused of harassing and intimidating a prominent local critic of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).

SBS News reported that on Aug. 17 Robert Barwick, Research Director and failed Senate candidate for the Australian Citizen’s Party (ACP), was asked to leave a talk at Melbourne’s La Trobe University on the subject of the Chinese Government’s human rights record given by analyst and journalist Vicky Xiuzhong Xu.

The ACP, formerly known as the Citizens Electoral Council, is the Australian branch of the political movement founded by notorious American conspiracy theorist and convicted fraudster Lyndon LaRouche, who died in 2019.

https://aijac.org.au/fresh-air/australian-larouchites-get-aggressive-in-shilling-for-the-chinese-communist-party/




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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: sudly]
    #28477957 - 09/21/23 06:07 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

You really should go talk to a doctor.


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: sudly]
    #28478327 - 09/22/23 05:34 AM (4 months, 3 days ago)

Like any of that matters to him, SG loves all controlling authoritarian dictatorships


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: twighead]
    #28478896 - 09/22/23 04:34 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

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Like any of that matters to him, SG loves all controlling authoritarian dictatorships




:kittylaugh:

I remember when Robbie was thrown out of that China bashing shitfest.

Vicky Xu used to work for fucking ASPI! There is no higher form of U.S. shitfuckery in Australian politics than ASPI... Jesus Christ she's a real life comedian but was set up to masquerade as some sort of saviour of the Uygur!

I love controlling authoritarian dictatorships?... Here, this is the actual context and the exchange between Robbie Barwick and that filthy liar and paid propagandist Vicky Xu.



And while we're at it, in 2011 Obama announced the pivot to Asia crap, code for lets fuck with China, and began the reshuffle of over half of all U.S. naval vessels into the Asia Pacific and the steady increase of U.S. troops towards 2500 rotating through Darwin yearly. China began building those military islands in the south China sea in 2013, and why the fuck wouldn't they.

Australia's standard of living has risen steadily over the last 20 years due to one main reason, our iron ore trade with our number 1 trade partner China, and yet we have our number 1 security partner, the U.S. trying every way possible to destabilise that relationship.

Who's the bad actor here?

Fuck the U.S. government, you pair need to start paying more attention to what's going on.

I'm glad Robbie Barwick and the Aus Citizens Party get themselves involved pointing out how the Australian people are being screwed by our major political parties, left right and green, and that fucking pariah of the world the U.S. government.


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: Stable Genius]
    #28479029 - 09/22/23 06:59 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

Pointing out human rights abuses by America and China ain't hard.

Why is it always so one sided on such issues..


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: sudly]
    #28479054 - 09/22/23 07:18 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

The Uyghur story has been completely twisted out of shape by the U.S. cheerleaders that run ASPI.

Vicky Xu is proof of it, she’s a paid propagandist and liar. Robbie Barwick called her out and she had zero comeback.


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: Stable Genius]
    #28479055 - 09/22/23 07:20 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

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Vicky Xu is proof of it, she’s a paid propagandist and liar. Robbie Barwick called her out and she had zero comeback.



Yet you rely on rt


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: Enlil]
    #28479081 - 09/22/23 07:43 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

But I don’t just read RT.

I mostly, not always, but mostly try and fact check any RT articles I post.

They have an excellent way of highlighting the news that doesn’t get much coverage by the news outlets here.

I’m sick of the one sided narrative :shrug: it’s largely responsible for the growing hatred shown towards Russia and China, and it needs to stop.


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: Stable Genius]
    #28479083 - 09/22/23 07:45 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

But you'd admit that RT is 100% one-sided..


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    #28479086 - 09/22/23 07:46 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

ive hated russia since james bond fought them in every movie:snub:

not to mention rambo..


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: Stable Genius]
    #28479089 - 09/22/23 07:49 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

They were rounded up for cultural training then..

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What does China say?

China denies all allegations of human rights abuses in Xinjiang. In response to the Xinjiang Police Files, China's foreign ministry spokesman told the BBC that the documents were "the latest example of anti-China voices trying to smear China". He said Xinjiang enjoyed stability and prosperity and residents were living happy, fulfilled lives.

China says the crackdown in Xinjiang is necessary to prevent terrorism and root out Islamist extremism and the camps are an effective tool for re-educating inmates in its fight against terrorism.

It insists that Uyghur militants are waging a violent campaign for an independent state by plotting bombings, sabotage and civic unrest, but it is accused of exaggerating the threat in order to justify repression of the Uyghurs.

China has dismissed claims it is trying to reduce the Uyghur population through mass sterilisations as "baseless", and says allegations of forced labour are "completely fabricated".

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-22278037.amp




Tis but a crackdown on terrorism..

It sounds like there's a decent amount of vitriol between Australia and China and I don't know if the Uygher claims have a majority to do with it or not.

There's been some stuff about grain and meat and whatnot, but personally I don't hold a grudge against China.

If they're rounding up more than a million people and putting them in any kind of reform camp or school, that's ick.

I doubt there's any evidence they're all at risk of being terrorists and it gives off Guantanamo vibes to me.

Barwick seems like he does things as publicity stunts, and Xu isn't the only one who made reports on the situation.

Jaq James provides what looks like an op ed.

It seems the Uyghers were rounded up for whatever reason, and if you think there's a good reason for it spill the beans.

I dont trust much of any nation that says theyre doing things for National security or anti terrorism nowadays, because it seems to be the excuse for everything.


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: Enlil]
    #28479092 - 09/22/23 07:50 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

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But you'd admit that RT is 100% one-sided..



No no, only that's it's biased, at least Fal has said so on numerous occasions.


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: Enlil]
    #28479096 - 09/22/23 07:51 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

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But you'd admit that RT is 100% one-sided..




100% one sided? Hmmm I guess so but I haven’t seen any proof that they purposely lie.
I tried the Falcon/RT challenge a couple years ago, I couldn’t prove a single story was false :shrug:


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: sudly]
    #28479156 - 09/22/23 08:12 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

As I understand it China had around 800 people killed due to Uyghur terrorist attacks, this is the elephant in the room that gets overlooked.

The confrontation between Robbie Barwick and Vicky Xu was an isolated incident and is why I included his version of events in that video to show he’s no idiot shit stirrer.

The Citizens Party collaborates with any Senator or cross bencher who agrees with their policies, I like that!

We desperately need to get past this left or right is completely wrong or right way of thinking and the ACP does that… Like when former PM Paul Keating blasted all the China bashers at the National Press Club a while back, Robbie applauded him for it even though he’s anything but a Keating fan.


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