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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: Stable Genius] * 1
    #28004727 - 10/18/22 01:34 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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When I try and talk to people who are anti Putin/anti Russia the same argument is put forward every time "but who invaded?"

Followed by, they aren't interested in understanding what happened before February 2022.

But I guess when you have the media constantly parroting the "unprovoked invasion", offering zero context, and a one sided story, it's no wonder.





  That's because people in general don't care about lame  excuses . 
  I can't just attack some people  and then say " look at what they made me do ! "
  " you see what they say about me they've never been nice "
  " look at what they do to each other , look at what someone else did to them ! "
 
    All of your excuses for Russia invading their neighbor boil  down to that , it sounds completely ridiculous and that's why no one wants to listen to you .


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: The Ecstatic] * 2
    #28013516 - 10/24/22 01:59 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Australia unrecognizes West Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/18/australia/australia-israel-capital-reversal-intl-hnk/index.html?utm_source=twCNN&utm_medium=social&utm_term=link&utm_content=2022-10-18T11%3A00%3A33

Proud of y’all.




Yeah this Federal Labor government does seem to have some morals. The last Conservative government had none, zero, nil.

Support for recognising West Jerusalem as the capital came 5 days before a crucial by-election in which the Conservatives had high profile Jewish candidate Dave Sharma running in an electorate with a sizeable Jewish population :nonono:

Thankfully he was beaten BY AN INDEPENDENT :haha: these little wins illustrate why our electoral system rocks :rockon:


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: Stable Genius]
    #28013519 - 10/24/22 02:05 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Stable Genius said:
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The Ecstatic said:
Australia unrecognizes West Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/18/australia/australia-israel-capital-reversal-intl-hnk/index.html?utm_source=twCNN&utm_medium=social&utm_term=link&utm_content=2022-10-18T11%3A00%3A33

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Yeah this Federal Labor government does seem to have some morals. The last Conservative government had none, zero, nil.

Support for recognising West Jerusalem as the capital came 5 days before a crucial by-election in which the Conservatives had high profile Jewish candidate Dave Sharma running in an electorate with a sizeable Jewish population :nonono:

Thankfully he was beaten BY AN INDEPENDENT :haha: these little wins illustrate why our electoral system rocks :rockon:



He's not even Jewish tho

You should prob get your facts straight


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: twighead]
    #28013526 - 10/24/22 02:21 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Hmmm, ok, looks like you got me on a technicality.

I wasn't the only one fooled though, Sharma is about as pro Israel as you can get in Aus, he was spokesperson for Israeli companies, was also the former ambassador to Israel, and caused drama's for the conservatives for sticking his nose into Israel's business whilst ambassador.

Maybe all that had something to do with running him in an electorate with a sizeable Jewish population don't you think?


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
    #28013544 - 10/24/22 03:39 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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All of your excuses for Russia invading their neighbor boil  down to that , it sounds completely ridiculous and that's why no one wants to listen to you .




:cookiemonster: Even if it's to disagree with me, people listen. I think that makes you wrong, again.


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: Stable Genius] * 1
    #28013553 - 10/24/22 03:58 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Hmmm, ok, looks like you got me on a technicality.

I wasn't the only one fooled though, Sharma is about as pro Israel as you can get in Aus, he was spokesperson for Israeli companies, was also the former ambassador to Israel, and caused drama's for the conservatives for sticking his nose into Israel's business whilst ambassador.

Maybe all that had something to do with running him in an electorate with a sizeable Jewish population don't you think?



Who cares tho is the question, christian zealots are more interested in fulfilling the prophecies than jewish diaspora I can tell you that

replace your focus on an ethnicity with any other and you realize how problematic it is... they're like .6% of the population but they got you bordering on anti antisemitism just like that :lolsy:


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: twighead]
    #28013555 - 10/24/22 04:03 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

The point was, the Conservative government used Trump's call on West Jerusalem as the capital for it's own political purpose 5 days out from a Federal by-election.

Nothing to see here though, right?


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: Stable Genius]
    #28013557 - 10/24/22 04:10 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

And like I said it has little to do with ethnicity - especially not Jewish diaspora - and much more to do with conservative dogma


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: twighead]
    #28013631 - 10/24/22 06:03 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Not too familiar with racist sentiments in Australia, but I think a good bit of the reason for Christian support for Israel in the US and Europe is the idea that all the Jews should leave those areas and go to Israel. And if they manage to slaughter some Muslims while they’re there then hey, two birds one stone.


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: Stable Genius]
    #28017640 - 10/26/22 01:54 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

The Jews should have just asked for their own county within Europe after WW2. Something small like Switzerland or some shit.


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: 336] * 1
    #28017658 - 10/26/22 02:02 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

And who would get kicked out of that land? :lol: at least they have a legitimate claim, even if very far removed to Israel.
Sadly, at that point - the people who were driven to that level of desperation did not care much who they fucked over in making space for themselves, they had no trust left for the rest of the world - and not without good reason. It was, for many of them - a fairly literal fight for the survival of their people.

And I doubt many Holocaust surviving Jews wanted anything to do with Europe for the time being.

There was only two real major options; move to the US and hope major spikes of antisemitism don't happen every 60-100 years like they did in European history, or try and claim Israel. (of course there's plenty that chose something else but 80-90% are in one of the two countries)

My family moved out from Eastern Ukraine in the 1920s - but some of them remained in Poland etc, through WW2 and lived through death camps - their distrust of the European order after that was so extremely high that they wanted to get as far as they possibly could, which for them was in the US.

As to reducing anti-semitism I honestly hardly see any inroads to that, it seems to be the most 'enlightened' form of racism for people to adopt that they're informed enough to know that 'Jews rule the world' - well just the 'bad jews' but well, we can't tell them apart so all Jews at that, oops here we are again! Don't know how many dumb hicks & nazis I punched in the face in Idaho over their overt antisemitism that was the most accepted form of hatred in the area. Like kids asking me why I killed Jesus every other week in elementry school :rofl:


None of it excuses how things turned out in Israel - but you know, there is a strong and understandable why to it, if you put yourself in their shoes.


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: twighead] * 1
    #28017670 - 10/26/22 02:22 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

I feel you. First time I experienced racism for being Jewish was when I was working for some guy whose family is from Norway. He swore they fought against the Nazis, not with them. But he did complain all day that it was the Jews who are responsible for all the major bad shit in the world. When I would defend them by saying that there are illuminati all over the world and they aren't all Jewish he started asking me why I was defending the Israel and then he started accusing me of being a Jew. He then went on to try and punk me every chance he got while I was at work. I wouldn't find out till later, shortly before I quit, that I was actually Jewish, 1/4 by blood on my dad's side, so for Jews it doesn't count, but for Nazis it certainly still does. :lol:

But yeah I don't know. Part of me feels like all the Arabs/Muslims should just let the Jews have Israel. Territorially speaking they're not asking for much compared to the holdings of the Christian and Muslim empires.


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: 336]
    #28017691 - 10/26/22 02:36 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Just look at the fucking dumb Kanye thing going on right now - I don't know the deets but it seemed like he just said some hella anti semetic shit and all these - hate to use the word - woke mothafuckers are all like 'Well yee he just sayin the truth that we all be afraid to say, but its the truth!!'

Especially fucking sucks to hear from black people, because my family worked so hard in the 50s/60s side by side in the streets of Detroit to fight for better civil rights.. only for a lot of the community to turn around and see them as the enemy and cause of their strife.


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: Stable Genius]
    #28017714 - 10/26/22 02:47 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

All I know is that the Illuminati does a great job making a scapegoat out of the Jews. They've been doing it successfully since their first Jewish victim, Jesus.

The Romans had to blame someone besides themselves for killing Jesus after they made him their figurehead for their new state-run religion.


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: 336]
    #28017741 - 10/26/22 03:07 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

The whole Jesus thing was made up by a bunch of conspiracy nutters .


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: Psilynut2]
    #28017744 - 10/26/22 03:09 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Which part?


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: 336]
    #28017750 - 10/26/22 03:12 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

The whole thing really picked up steam when the plague really hit europe hard in the 1200-1300s, and the infection rate was significantly lower amongst Jewish communities in Europe (who practiced ritualized hand washing) - and all the sudden it became child sacrifices and poisoning of the wells - and when that shit picked up steam in that environment, it just never stopped.


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: twighead]
    #28017770 - 10/26/22 03:23 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

The part I find hilarious is when Christians banned themselves from usury so the Jews operated all the banks and then a few hundred years later the Christians are like “wait how did this happen?”


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #28018186 - 10/26/22 07:02 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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The part I find hilarious is when Christians banned themselves from usury so the Jews operated all the banks and then a few hundred years later the Christians are like “wait how did this happen?”



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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: twighead] * 2
    #28025600 - 10/31/22 04:59 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Why can't the U.S. export normal shit like fruit and vegetables?

The U-S to deploy nuclear-capable B-52 bombers to the Northern Territory


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