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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: Brian Jones] * 3
    #27987565 - 10/08/22 06:01 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Naturally the country has the parallel to our right wing which finds the authoritarian politics of china and russia to be more enticing.



I don't think it's "authoritarian politics" anyone finds enticing.  It's a refreshing breath of honesty and common sense.

I considered myself liberal, but liberals in the US have become the party of war, censorship, and make believe.




IMO it's not honesty or common sense. For some, it's a refreshingly different version of the complete bullshit propaganda that every powerful country spews, and it carries more weight because they're powerful countries.

In the U.S. there is no partisanship on the issues of war, censorship, and make believe. Trump was maybe a couple percent better on war, and took make believe to such an extreme that it may have made even a semblance of truth irrelevant. I'll grant you that the liberals might be worse on censorship now, but that's an issue that requires analysis. Liberals inhibit and sometimes ban public speech. Conservatives want to prevent school children from having any exposure whatsoever, from books or teachers on certain subjects. On both sides the right or wrong, or appropriateness for children, should be determined on a case by case basis.




When you go on a case by case basis one group wants to take your rights, your wages, your healthcare, support and value overall.

The culture war imo is made up to distract from real underlying economic issues.


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: twighead] * 3
    #28476792 - 09/20/23 05:46 PM (4 months, 5 days ago)

Hed eat his own shit and tell you it's tofu.


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The Australian Politics Thread * 2
    #27271161 - 03/27/21 02:12 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Tired of U.S. politics? Don't know your Abe Lincolns from your Lincoln Woods's?

Then this is the thread for you.
Australia, smack bang in the middle of? I dunno, Asia? We've been seen as U.S. puppets since LBJ took hold of the wheel, maybe longer!
But don't let that put you off, lets all kick the can down the road together in the thread devoted to Down Under shitfuckery.
We've stuck our nose in other countries political discussion for far too long, come stick your collective noses in ours to even up the score :super:

I'll kick off the discussion with an address to the National Press Club by former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd.
Love him or loathe him, Kevin could talk shit under 6 foot of concrete with a mouthful of marbles.
In this address he takes aim at Rupert Murdoch's nuts time
and time again(I love it), shares his thoughts on China, shares his thoughts on the current Liberal government, basically shares his thoughts in a way that only Kevin can. Kevin is from Queensland... err Queensland, you'll find it on a map.

If you don't like Kevin, feel free to turn the discussion to whatever subject is currently pissing you off or making you smile smugly.


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: Stable Genius] * 2
    #27319207 - 05/22/21 07:59 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: Brian Jones] * 2
    #27474329 - 09/19/21 11:46 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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Could you give me a short summary on the submarine deal. I've been superbusy with work and school, and haven't made it beyond headlines.


basically France an Australia had  a deal for a new submarine to be built. an insted America an Australia cut a deal for America to build a nuclear sub for Australia  behind france back an they are not happy since france is an allies.


Watch "Nuclear submarines for Australia just started a new Pacific military alliance against China!" on YouTube


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: Stable Genius] * 2
    #27710060 - 03/27/22 12:57 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

The Greens are talking about abolishing student debt, I think it's a great idea, especially if it's done instead of a tax cut, which will mainly benefit the rich.
If they end up with the balance of power with Labor that's when we'll see some action.

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7670824/greens-pledge-to-abolish-student-debts-as-election-pledge/?cs=14264

The Libs have been treading water for too long, time to get rid of them.


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
    #27746629 - 04/22/22 11:00 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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It’s as if there is no comprehension whatsoever as to why the Solomon Islands may not consent to be under the hegemony of Australia and the United States, and why it is obviously going to prefer a strategy of “hedging” to maximize political space and opportunity for itself, rather than being forced to exclusively pick one side. This is demonstrative of the elitist mindset which dominates these countries.
It is therefore lost on Australia why the Solomon Islands, a non-white former British protectorate (the British Queen is, to this day, also the Queen of the Solomon Islands, for that matter), might not want to be completely dominated by Canberra, and by extension, the US. This is why scores and scores of US and Australian officials visiting the island and mounting diplomatic pressure haven’t been able to change the mind of the Islands’ government.





:awesomenod:

I wish more Australians would look at things from a different perspective and take other countries legitimacy into account.

Have a listen to this interview though from Foreign Affairs Minister Marise Payne, it's surprisingly level headed, which is something I wouldn't normally say about her.

The hysteria around this story is actually being driven from journalists and in this case, Leigh Sales from the ABC.

It seems even the traditionally left leaning ABC has caught this weird type of Nationalism sweeping the world that's normally reserved for the right. Marice Payne is someone I'd class as fairly conservative.

https://www.abc.net.au/7.30/china-solomon-islands-deal-deeply-disappointing:/13848380


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: Stable Genius] * 2
    #27761575 - 05/03/22 03:02 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Ahhh, a political thread for those sharing the same sunny, venomous, dangerous, beautiful piece of earth I do! Hooray!


But Christ where does one even begin? With the near completely broken “choice” presented to us by the looming election? That’ll do. For me, knowing better, it seems purely a personality choice as labour is liberal lite and, should they be elected, we will still be the lap dogs of that lone, corrupt, war-fed, hypocritical empirical power. Personally I want scomo removed for being as transparent as water and I want Dutton to crawl back into the fell gollum cave from which he came….he is by far the most poisonous person I have ever witnessed in Australian politics (yes he’s worse than miss Hanson) and he’s legitimately dangerous besides).

I find myself as a man without faith in the major parties, and I do not support the greens on every issue. Our national broadcaster is becoming a tepid, supine collection of woke parrots (look at the morning show now for goodness sake. I want to cut my ears off as I came here to get away from channel 7 and 9) whose bias, both political and geopolitical, is naked to anyone with perception.

I’ll probably vote labour, merely because the other band of criminals are so distasteful and deaf and dumb and blind that I’d like some other band of the same to try it out.

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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: Milleresque] * 2
    #27765376 - 05/06/22 01:25 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Legacy media outlets are hosted by select pundits who are selected for their willingness and ability to be effective stenographers for the editor in chief of those companies. To be able to maintain a derelict overton window that stiffles meaningful discussion, to be able to deflect, obfuscate and avoid accountability, and to provide a neutrality bias though equating all players and their ideas as honorable.

Liberal, labor, anyone but Greens I don't see a hope of change. Even though I don't agree with everything the greens are for, like equity in regard to tuition (I'm for equality), they're atleast asking for things like a corruption watchdog to finally be implemented which scomo recently said would create a 'public autocracy', if you're able to decipher whatever that actually means.

I mean the dudes out and out anti accountability and it's beyond frustating to hear and see time and time again.

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Scott Morrison warns overly powerful Icac could turn Australia into ‘public autocracy’

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/may/04/scott-morrison-warns-overly-powerful-icac-could-turn-australia-into-public-autocracy




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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: sudly] * 2
    #27776507 - 05/14/22 05:35 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Actually the grossly under reported missing piece in this fictional exercise, is that Canberra bombed Tassie because Tassie objected to the puppet government that was installed after those helpful pranksters at The National Endowment for Democracy(CIA) with the assistance of people like Victoria Nuland came to Canberra to help them with 'democracy'.

The pranksters and the Canberrans were angry that the Taswegians objected to being governed by a stooge puppet regime, were friends with the Nuu Zilanders, and thought they talked funny, so they helped stoke hateful far right ideology and encouraged militia groups to terrorise the Taswegians.

Nuu Ziland didn't think it was fair that the Canberrans were terrorising and bombing their friends and so after 8 years of failed talks and supplying arms to the Taswegians to match those being supplied to the Canberrans by the merry pranksters, they said fuck it we've had enough of this shit, and after an epic haka showed Canberra that it's not a good idea to screw with Nuu Ziland.

The merry pranksters laughed and laughed all the way to Lockheed Martins bank and said hooray! we get to fight Nuu Ziland without loosing a single merry prankster! How cool is this! We should talk those dorks in Canberra into doing the same shit for us with China in the Solomon Islands! as we are loosing our grasp on power.

All the pranksters said now be very quiet about this and get everyone to look the other way so we can do sneaky stuff whilst smearing China for assisting with economic development that would benefit both countries.

And after a short time they all lived happily ever after in nuclear fall out. THE END.


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: Stable Genius] * 2
    #27786048 - 05/20/22 05:39 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Todays the day! Make your vote count fellow Australian-based Homo sapiens….and have yourselves a great day.


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
    #27983297 - 10/05/22 06:14 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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shivas.wisdom said:
"the highly evil 💉"

"China releases a Bio Weapon on us"

"Coup d'état took place in Ukraine sponsored by Mr. George Soro"

"Natural immunity would have lead to virus extinction"

"New study on ivermectin finds 92% effectiveness at stopping death from COVID"


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He sounds reasonable to you? Why don't you just be upfront and say 'people who confirm my bias appear more reasonable to me than people who challenge it'.



I'll be upfront and say people who have evidence-based arguments appear more reasonable to me than people who make believe.  Which of the above (other than "highly evil" which is subjective), do you believe has no evidence?




Hard to believe anyone took you seriously at one point


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: twighead] * 2
    #27984575 - 10/06/22 12:34 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Naturally the country has the parallel to our right wing which finds the authoritarian politics of china and russia to be more enticing.



I don't think it's "authoritarian politics" anyone finds enticing.  It's a refreshing breath of honesty and common sense.

I considered myself liberal, but liberals in the US have become the party of war, censorship, and make believe.


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: Stable Genius] * 2
    #28004409 - 10/18/22 09:16 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)



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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: The Ecstatic] * 2
    #28013516 - 10/24/22 01:59 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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Australia unrecognizes West Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/18/australia/australia-israel-capital-reversal-intl-hnk/index.html?utm_source=twCNN&utm_medium=social&utm_term=link&utm_content=2022-10-18T11%3A00%3A33

Proud of y’all.




Yeah this Federal Labor government does seem to have some morals. The last Conservative government had none, zero, nil.

Support for recognising West Jerusalem as the capital came 5 days before a crucial by-election in which the Conservatives had high profile Jewish candidate Dave Sharma running in an electorate with a sizeable Jewish population :nonono:

Thankfully he was beaten BY AN INDEPENDENT :haha: these little wins illustrate why our electoral system rocks :rockon:


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: twighead] * 2
    #28025600 - 10/31/22 04:59 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Why can't the U.S. export normal shit like fruit and vegetables?

The U-S to deploy nuclear-capable B-52 bombers to the Northern Territory


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: twighead] * 2
    #28330607 - 05/22/23 11:31 PM (8 months, 1 day ago)

What the heck does a sub have to do with deterring economic sanctions from China when a strong and diversified economy would minimise the impact of economic sanctions and leave us better off in the long run?

If we have fragile trade routes, maybe we should strengthen our economy rather than spending the biggest piece of our economic pie on underwater danger dildos.

Imo, preparation is strong investment in economic diversity!

Not another military slushfund to strengthen our reliance on the US.

The US can't even have their Pentagon pass an audit, 5 times in a row they've failed! With hundreds of billions of unnacounted for tax payer funds.


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: twighead] * 2
    #28425524 - 08/08/23 09:52 AM (5 months, 17 days ago)

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lol hes actually on a site called southfront.org? Like a play off of stormfront the maximum white nationalist haven?





Jesus you guys are ridiculous. Southfront is a geopolitics website that gives updates and analysis on global geopolitics, the people running it aren't even Americans and it has nothing to do with white nationalism or any kind of US domestic political bullshit.

"Oh, it has the word south in it, it must be like Stormfront!" :rofl:


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: Enlil] * 2
    #28425686 - 08/08/23 12:23 PM (5 months, 17 days ago)

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Southfront is a Russian company.  It's basically RT with a different name.

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SouthFront is a disinformation site that receives taskings from the FSB. Following the 2020 U.S. presidential election, SouthFront sought to promote perceptions of voter fraud during the 2020 U.S. presidential election cycle, and was designated pursuant to E.O. 13848, E.O. 13694, as amended, and E.O. 13382 on April 15, 2021, for having engaged in foreign interference in the 2020 U.S. presidential election and being owned or controlled by, or for having acted or purported to act for or on behalf of, directly or indirectly, the FSB.



https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy0628





Ridiculous garbage. I don't use Southfront personally but the idea that they are "receiving tasks" from the FSB is nothing more than the typical US government disinformation designed to slander and assault anyone that posts things that are inconvenient for the US government, especially in regards to US foreign policy.

Just like how they tried to say Russia interfered in 2016 and how Trump colluded with Russia, it's a lie, a lie they have been caught in numerous times now. You should be ashamed of yourself for taking things like this at face value. You are perpetuating extremely low-quality US gov propaganda. It's not even good propaganda. It's just shit they make up on the fly.

Never forget that the truth itself is the biggest enemy of the US government and the 'intelligence community', and they will go to any lengths to attempt to stifle the truth.

According to the United States government, the truth itself is "Russian disinfo". :lol:

You just can't make this shit up. This country is a joke, but luckily, there are millions of people in this country whom see right through this type of propaganda. Too bad you're not one of them.


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Re: The Australian Politics Thread [Re: Stable Genius] * 2
    #28506963 - 10/16/23 02:23 PM (3 months, 10 days ago)

Taxes, lol....We spend way more than we collect in taxes, bro.  We're spending our grandchildren's money.

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