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verum subsequentis said: That is an interesting thought, AKA. I hadn't thunk of that before.
PS. How a culture acts in a tub vs how it'd act in nature doesn't change the way it was created/ evolved/ what the fuck ever you call it. Kinda like how a chicken will still roost in a safe spot even though they are in a safe coop and don't need to. Genetic memory and what not.
I cant stop thinking about a field of cow patties each one its own little perfect canopy
the closest cube field is 2000+ miles away from me so i have no idea what happens in nature. But the whole thing about size and evolution makes a lot of sense
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insutama said: So i have put the first .5" casing layer on 3 days ago and this is how my tubs look do you guys think i should wait 1 more day before putting on second .5" casing layer or should i do it today ?
   
Its getting close. When doing the double casing method, I usually wait until the first layer is 80-90% or even as it gets to 100% before adding the second casing layer. How many days has it been since spawning and how many days did you wait before applying the first casing layer?
it has been 7 days since spawning and i waited 4 days before applying my first casing layer which was when the psudo coir/verm layer was about 90% colonized
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: insutama]
#27259648 - 03/18/21 10:29 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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To my untrained eye. I think those last two tubs look pretty damn good. It’s hard to tell by a picture but it looks like it’s tightening up. But I’ll leave that question for the experts on here. They all look pretty good. Nice job dude. Ernie
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I finally got around to casing my shoeboxes and minis. This 16q mini is the first (and only) one I did. I finished putting the casing on and thought to myself 'hmm this Jiffy seems a little warm' so I checked the temp and it was 101F 
Now I'm waiting for the other 5 quarts of jiffy to cool enough to finish casing and wondering how bad I screwed up that tub
I’m going to guess by the time you get done sprinkling that casing layer on top of your substrate that it cool down to room temperature. I don’t think it will have any effect whatsoever well ,...not negatively. It’ll be fine. Your tub can always look like mine. This is what happens when you case too late in the game
 These are no longer penis envy‘s they are now testicle envy! Lol
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ErnieErgot67 said: To my untrained eye. I think those last two tubs look pretty damn good. It’s hard to tell by a picture but it looks like it’s tightening up. But I’ll leave that question for the experts on here. They all look pretty good. Nice job dude. Ernie
thanks man i will be adding second casing today
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: insutama]
#27260575 - 03/19/21 02:29 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Looks like they are right on track for the second casing! Do it, Do it NOW (in Arnolds voice)
PE usually pins between day 20-25 right? So once that second casing is applied, those tubs will continue to colonize the casing while tightening up the substrate for another couple of weeks roughly.
On a side note, I often wait until the second layer is damn near 100% colonized before opening up to fresh air...because the more surface humidity the better to get the best pin set possible..unless for some reason it starts to pin sooner, in which case its FAE time.
Looks good though!
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so when my second casing is fully colonized do i add a third or just leave it ?
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lovepotion said: Looks like they are right on track for the second casing! Do it, Do it NOW (in Arnolds voice)
PE usually pins between day 20-25 right? So once that second casing is applied, those tubs will continue to colonize the casing while tightening up the substrate for another couple of weeks roughly.
On a side note, I often wait until the second layer is damn near 100% colonized before opening up to fresh air...because the more surface humidity the better to get the best pin set possible..unless for some reason it starts to pin sooner, in which case its FAE time.
Looks good though!
Nice answer and just what I needed to hear. That goes right in the vault. If I was smart I would write this stuff down.
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: insutama]
#27260801 - 03/19/21 05:01 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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insutama said: so when my second casing is fully colonized do i add a third or just leave it ?
This is exactly what was confusing me at first. I was picturing myself constantly patching and covering up the mycelium all the way to the top of the tub. Lol! I was like well when am I going to stop covering up the mycelium and adding casing layers. I thought that’s what I wanted? I thought we wanted mycelium? I thought we wanted mycelium colonizing the top of our substrate so it could knot up and then pin?!.... well apparently not so when it comes to penis envy and I guess you could do this with other cubes as well but not necessary. Not as necessary as it is with PE and other PE strains. Otherwise you’ll end up with balls like I have in my pictures up above. Those are now called testicle envy!
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i wonder why you got blobs even though you did 2 casing layers this is what im trying to avoid every other time i have grown PE i always just get blobs but never actually used a casing layer before. Nothing wrong with blobs they are always potent as hell but i really would like to see some fruits this time. i guess ill just keep casing .5" layers every time it gets fully colonized until it starts to pin good thing i started with a thin substrate i still have about 1" to the top of my shoebox and i already have 1" of casing so i doubt i will need case it more than that
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: insutama]
#27261040 - 03/19/21 08:31 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sounds like the casing was added too late?
After 2nd casing patch so that it all colonizes evenly and the myc starts to consolidate
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: TedsDead]
#27261042 - 03/19/21 08:31 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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okay thanks ted will do
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: insutama]
#27261724 - 03/20/21 11:08 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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insutama said: i wonder why you got blobs even though you did 2 casing layers this is what im trying to avoid every other time i have grown PE i always just get blobs but never actually used a casing layer before. Nothing wrong with blobs they are always potent as hell but i really would like to see some fruits this time. i guess ill just keep casing .5" layers every time it gets fully colonized until it starts to pin good thing i started with a thin substrate i still have about 1" to the top of my shoebox and i already have 1" of casing so i doubt i will need case it more than that
Actually I only got one full casing later on not counting the one when I first spawned the tub. After I cased it I just started patching and then it started producing. So yes I cased too late as Ted said. At the time of applying the first casing layer, I had thick wall-to-wall myc and I had actually bruised it with a fan because I didn’t know what the frick I was doing. At this point I didn’t realize that I needed to case penis envy.
 This is what my tub look like before I cased it. I was way too late. But lesson learned. What’s strange is all those blobby balls that grew came from underneath the casing layer of myc/sub. They didn’t grow on top of the casing layer that was tightening up. They pushed their way through like they formed underneath, a half inch to an inch down. On the bright side. I grew some fruit without contamination and the second flush I’ll be straight. Looking forward to seeing your results Brutha!
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ah that makes sense maybe you will get some mushrooms next flush
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ErnieErgot67 said: Those are now called testicle envy!
I'd put your testicles in my mouth any day, Ernie 
I've got myc starting to poke through my second casing layer so hopefully in a week or so I start getting some pins. I'm super excited. Thanks for all the help everyone!
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Lololololololol. That’s some funny shit man.
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Sorry to clog up the thread basically asking the same question again but 2 of my tubs started pinning from the corner/edges while the mycelium on the surface is still growing voraciously. There's probably close to like 8 quarts of casing on at this point, is there anything I can do to stimulate the surface to pin at this point?
None of my other tubs are doing this, I think this culture is just really aggressive and I felt it was a bit of a different situation compared to normal PE procedure which is why I wanted to ask. If I should just keep casing and misting though until the myc consolidates I will gladly do that as well. Thanks.
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: Lenz]
#27261856 - 03/20/21 12:21 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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That culture looks aggressive af.. weird it’s pinning and still colonizing like that. I’d personally stop casing and let the tubs fruit and ditch the culture for a more normal one. Might start fruiting on top if it runs out of material to colonize.
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Oh wow those are amazing!!! Much want!!!! Fuck I hope I can get some blob spores some day!! Congratulations great work lovepotion!
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: fahtster]
#27263730 - 03/21/21 08:01 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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fahtster said: That culture looks aggressive af.. weird it’s pinning and still colonizing like that. I’d personally stop casing and let the tubs fruit and ditch the culture for a more normal one. Might start fruiting on top if it runs out of material to colonize.
Faht
Maybe its due to a contam. I had 2 similar tubs I just ran, same unmodded target tub tech. One is halfway through a flush with a trich spot that popped up and the other had 2 tiny pins.
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: zMan]
#27263759 - 03/21/21 08:25 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Im wondering about casing this tub, its starting to form knots, But i really want to case it still.
is it to late???

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