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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #27261156 - 03/19/21 10:21 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

They really like the ivy.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #27261210 - 03/19/21 11:47 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Ivy works but most ivy grows slow, strawberries spread very fast thats why I use em. You can use just about anything, up to you


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Adas]
    #27261211 - 03/19/21 11:49 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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No that wouldn't work. I buried it near the stumps, covered with soil.



Stumps and logs are inferior for woodlovers you want mulch, unless you are burying logs in the mulch, thats good practice to keep mycelium healthy in adverse conditions so you don't have to worry about them running out of food or getting baked by the heat


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Shroomhunts] * 1
    #27261919 - 03/20/21 12:36 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

They may be inferior in terms of available nutrients, but they are still usable (I use anything that's available), plus they have great advantages, such as:

As opposed to woodchips, stumps are never gonna be dug up by animals, carried away by water or humans. So your patch stays put and undisturbed. Also, stumps are way easier to see even from distance once you're visiting again.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Adas]
    #27262257 - 03/20/21 05:18 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Hey guys, thanks!  The ivy was already established there, and with the last months weather has grown even more.  I imagine by this late fall and winter, they will be so much I may have to even remove some.  So I'm gonna stay with the ivy.  Thankfully since the area is gated in, there aren't too many curious critters.  Some squirrels, but once they realize there's no food, they give up.  Over a month, there was maybe only two small sites that were barely disturbed, almost could have even just been heavy rains.

Anyway, I checked the patch after a month or so to let it do its thing; and it's so happy!  This patch was made by chips that were already fully colonized and fruited in December 20 and January 21; and are very happy in their new location right now.  The seed chips didn't even stall at all or lose any growth, and are already showing signs of tons of new mycelial growth - as well, the mulch I added as the major part (around 80% or so) is already showing lots of signs everywhere around the patch of mycelium spreading to them to grow on already.  It's all alder wood, and a solid mix of other wood mulches mixed with a small amount of really healthy potting soil already in the mulch, with the ivy and some grasses growing on top.

These are all p. alleni.



One of the seed chips mycelium sending out new strands and growing on what's immediately around it, mycelium looks nice and healthy.  This was on the upper layer of seed chips, and I placed it back and covered it after.



Peeking beneath the top layer of mulch mix on top covering everything.


[Zoomed in]
This is what the seed chip layer looks like underneath, this is basically what it looks like across the entire 8 ft x 3 ft patch.  Afterwards I put back on top the top mulch layer as it was before.



And this is just the beginning of the mycelium starting to spread to the other pieces of mulch in there from the seed chips.  P. alleni tend to be very hardy and beat out the competition, so I'm hoping that's alleni mycelium.  Since it fruited last year, I'm hoping it fruits in this coming December again even though it was transplanted to a new spot.  It might not because of that, but my fingers are crossed.  Regardless, the patch is establishing itself, and patience pays off eventually.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #27262364 - 03/20/21 06:48 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

I have a question about casing - I have that top mulch layer on top covering the mycelium and protecting it, which it can grow onto as well and spread more.  But I'm wondering if there's anything on top of that I should be using for casing?  Could I use stuff meant for cubensis casings mixed with something else (just have a bunch of good leftover casings) - or is there a certain thing people reccomend for p. alleni?

Thanks again so much, total noob here for outdoor grows with wood lovers with this being my first.  I've grown cubensis indoor, I've hunted cyans and alleni for years, but I decided getting my own patch thats in a safe spot that I can help explode is the best move.  I don't really even trip on mushrooms, it's mostly for hobby sake, and to get enough to have an infinite amount of microdoses for myself and friends to have.  Considering it takes the tiniest amount of caps or stems from these guys to microdose with.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #27262425 - 03/20/21 07:45 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

How azurenscens do Vs trich and aspirilligus type of molds that also germinate on wood


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #27262938 - 03/21/21 08:35 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

TWM- looking good man! The ivy will act as a casing layer (generally keeping the atmosphere at a higher humidity level between the top of the chips and the ivy)

You could try leaves too if you wanted something else, I know people on here do that but I suspect you’re good with the ivy.

I started my patches from spores and the area I have was barren so I went the strawberry plant route but I don’t plan on casing with anything else (unless the strawberry plants don’t take in that case I’ll try leaves)


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Adas]
    #27262981 - 03/21/21 09:18 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Adas, are you just burying blocks is soil with no other chips added?


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Land Trout]
    #27263001 - 03/21/21 09:38 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Yes it's just grain spawned to sawdust, let it colonize and bury near stumps. It works. Last season I got some late fruits on 2 separate stumps exactly 3 months after inoculation. Unfortunately they froze, but it gives you an idea how well it can work. I'm aware it probably fruited mostly from the sawdust, but it was colonizing the stumps very aggressively, so hopes are high for this season.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Adas] * 2
    #27263053 - 03/21/21 10:13 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

I have been following this thread for a while now. I used the vast amount of info here to collect samples from the wild, make prints, swab agar, transfer to grains, and finally construct an outdoor bed. I built the bed about 1 month ago and on last inspection I have some mycelium poking up to the surface. It’s in a shady spot, and we get lots and lots of rain here (zone 8). I’d like to think it’s more than beginners luck, but so far so good.



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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Adas]
    #27263193 - 03/21/21 12:21 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Tight, i think one of my mistakes is spawning blocks to Too much mulch/chips, I put some cyans around a locust stump last summer, but mulched it heavy with nature scapes and maple chips and it’s still working on that. 
I finally had some blocks go green.  Maybe too warm out and it looks like the gnats have got more active.  I just spawned them in the orchard anyway.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Land Trout]
    #27263574 - 03/21/21 05:56 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah sometimes I wonder if I used too much extra mulch, but I have about 75% of the entire square footage of the patch, and I'm hoping that it can cover the rest of the area in the next 9 months, and fruit, and not be too stalled and stunted growth.

Ok y'all, glad to hear the casing is good, each time I check the underneath mycelial layer, its always nice and super moist and growing well. So here's too hoping. 

@Rockhammer yeah my mycelium in some places looks almost like that coverage, but still not quite, that looks great.  Is that what the whole layer looks like undenearth, or just that spot?


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #27263849 - 03/21/21 09:41 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Big thanks to whoever was saying to add straw to azurescens spawn. I added a couple handfuls of chopped straw per bag to my last batch and they colonized in ~7 days compared to almost double that with only sawdust and paper pellets. I've been using 1 gallon ziplock bags with 1 quart of grain spawn to inoculate about 7-8 bags. The mycelium is super vigorous and looks very healthy.

Started with a clone from the patch in the second picture of my sig. I've heard clones are maybe not a good idea with azzys but the culture just left all of the multispore cultures I had going in the dust in terms of vigor on agar, grain and sawdust so it's what i'm going with.

I reached my upload limit so I can't show pics unfortunately until I buy a supporter account, which I will be doing soon.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Land Trout]
    #27264079 - 03/22/21 06:07 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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Tight, i think one of my mistakes is spawning blocks to Too much mulch/chips, I put some cyans around a locust stump last summer, but mulched it heavy with nature scapes and maple chips and it’s still working on that. 
I finally had some blocks go green.  Maybe too warm out and it looks like the gnats have got more active.  I just spawned them in the orchard anyway.



If you are spawning to a large area gonna be better off grinding the spawn down as fine as possible before you add it to the chips. You can bury blocks but will take much longer for the myc to spread out to the whole patch. Depends how old the chips are too, fresh mulch takes almost a full season to be decomposed by the mycelium enough to pump out lots of fruit.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
    #27264102 - 03/22/21 06:33 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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I can't believe how much the subs are loving the pasteurized woody potting soil.



as said before this is spawn to coir and I have topped it off with potting soil twice now. Its time for a casing.

Got 4 tubs to play with and one substrate buried in the backyard.

So what do you guys think would be good for a casing?
Planning on doing one with more potting mix (maybe add some sand to it)
and one with fermented pine chips which leaves two more slots open for suggestions.

Also would you give them a soak before casing?





These are indoor tubs, Baba?

Ever stumble upon Zenn's indoor Ps Cyan log? https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26535887/fpart/1/vc/1

I'm no expert but I'd try a pan-type inedible casing and a seeded grass casing to try to slow down the buffet.

Good luck!


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: RoadAppleSnapple]
    #27264638 - 03/22/21 02:15 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

I grabbed this colonized chunk of wood a couple of days ago. Starting to see some ovoid pins, just from spraying water on it. How should i go about getting the mycelium to take to woodchips? Should i break it up or throw it in as is?


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: evlyshrooms]
    #27264654 - 03/22/21 02:30 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Leave it as one piece Evly. Make sure you have a range of different size chips for it to leap onto. Not much "sawdust" and not all large chunks either. Bags of scotts naturescape are only a few dollars and have a good range of sizes to start a patch.
That chunk is big enough to start a nice little patch.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Rumblestrip]
    #27264695 - 03/22/21 02:53 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Will do, thanks dude. I'll post some pics here if i have any luck


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: evlyshrooms]
    #27264774 - 03/22/21 03:51 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

You shouldnt have any problem with getting it established. Once the season picks up and the mycelium is stronger/more vigorous they can be broken up smaller but i still like leaving decent size chunks to start things off.
Looking forward to seeing what the season brings you my friend.


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