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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: Ezuma]
    #23741043 - 10/16/16 12:34 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

One time I lemon tek'd just 2g of shrooms and went to sit by this river just off a local trail. Where I sat overlooked the river with a bit of a drop. All the colours became so exaggerated, the trees and grass and everything were very rigid then became flowing and geometric. Intensely so. Sometimes on shrooms I see these beautiful intricate outward shifting spirals but normally they are minds eye visions even if they are very prominent. These shapes and such would actually trail off with the landscape. This whole being of where I was became where everything was, I felt at the center of everything. There was this insatiable pull that was enticing as it was confusing. What was once a blue cloudy sky , darkened in to a mellow magenta and the clouds themselves became all my visions of spirals and various fractal patterns that would dart through the sky. Everything seemed to twist, bend, and kind of fucking loom over me which I felt was kind of invading my personal space at the time. The water seemed to bubble as much as it rushed harder, the water slowly rose, then quicker, and then lower, and the whole thing split and the water drained. This whirling mass seemed to pull away at everything, these little polygon partclies could be seen flying off of things. It was then I was contacted by the entity. In the sky as much as my heart I could feel it speak to me and dare me to choose, as if this whirling mass slowly taking away everything around me was tempting me with some kind of 'true life.' I just fucking stared at this chaos until I decided on this reality, and then everything seemed to subside slowly like a calming storm. It wasn't long before I was nearly sober. When I got up maybe 15 minutes later I remember very very little visual activity. This was maybe 2 hours at most from the time of consumption.

Mushrooms are some funky powerful shit, especially through a lemon tek.. I mean really a lemon tek vs eating is nearly comparable to sipping a beer vs chugging the damn thing, I love high doses. Take me to the freak show, please. But they really aren't necessary. 4g lemon tek'd is a solid dose.


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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #23741070 - 10/16/16 12:47 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

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One time I lemon tek'd just 2g of shrooms and went to sit by this river just off a local trail. Where I sat overlooked the river with a bit of a drop. All the colours became so exaggerated, the trees and grass and everything were very rigid then became flowing and geometric. Intensely so. Sometimes on shrooms I see these beautiful intricate outward shifting spirals but normally they are minds eye visions even if they are very prominent. These shapes and such would actually trail off with the landscape. This whole being of where I was became where everything was, I felt at the center of everything. There was this insatiable pull that was enticing as it was confusing. What was once a blue cloudy sky , darkened in to a mellow magenta and the clouds themselves became all my visions of spirals and various fractal patterns that would dart through the sky. Everything seemed to twist, bend, and kind of fucking loom over me which I felt was kind of invading my personal space at the time. The water seemed to bubble as much as it rushed harder, the water slowly rose, then quicker, and then lower, and the whole thing split and the water drained. This whirling mass seemed to pull away at everything, these little polygon partclies could be seen flying off of things. It was then I was contacted by the entity. In the sky as much as my heart I could feel it speak to me and dare me to choose, as if this whirling mass slowly taking away everything around me was tempting me with some kind of 'true life.' I just fucking stared at this chaos until I decided on this reality, and then everything seemed to subside slowly like a calming storm. It wasn't long before I was nearly sober. When I got up maybe 15 minutes later I remember very very little visual activity. This was maybe 2 hours at most from the time of consumption.

Mushrooms are some funky powerful shit, especially through a lemon tek.. I mean really a lemon tek vs eating is nearly comparable to sipping a beer vs chugging the damn thing, I love high doses. Take me to the freak show, please. But they really aren't necessary. 4g lemon tek'd is a solid dose.




I've actually never done mushrooms non-lemon tekked, maybe I should just for mental reference and see how much it changes

oddly the srongest trip I had was off of only 2.5 g lemon tekked, I forgot who or what I was, melted into the grass and saw the world replaced by a glowing grid, must have lucked out somehow


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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: Mike4aco] * 2
    #23742627 - 10/16/16 03:48 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

No, it is tolerance. You have a long history of taking massive  doses of psychedelics, and that can & does lead to lasting tolerance. The reality is that 7 grams is a very high dose, and you're being irresponsible trying to say it's not. This is a harm reduction site, not a brag about how much you can take site. Kids get their information from reading these threads.


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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: Dark_Star]
    #23743837 - 10/16/16 10:31 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

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Edited by thetechnician (07/13/20 01:53 PM)


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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: thetechnician]
    #23744368 - 10/17/16 04:33 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Super intense out of body psychedelic experience is what happens to me.

That's why he didn't call a heroic dose 6 or 7 grams.  He is right, and he had an extreme talent for writing the kind of material he did.

Philistines can't read very well, and never would understand even the beginnings of Mckenna's ideas.

5 grams is a fat dose.


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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: Dark_Star] * 1
    #23744371 - 10/17/16 04:37 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

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No, it is tolerance. You have a long history of taking massive  doses of psychedelics, and that can & does lead to lasting tolerance. The reality is that 7 grams is a very high dose, and you're being irresponsible trying to say it's not. This is a harm reduction site, not a brag about how much you can take site. Kids get their information from reading these threads.




I think the person who wrote this is so very correct.  This website has the potential to allow people to say extremely stupid shit without much moderation, and the above quote is not like that.

Harm reduction.  5 grams is a big deal for most people who don't abuse mushrooms weekly or what ever it might take to make that seem like a small dose.  It's a serious idea to be taking 5 grams.  To the point of "not fun anymore" for a great many people.


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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: Onlylivingboy]
    #23745559 - 10/17/16 03:05 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

I've done 5g dry in silent darkness. It has to be pitch black and completely silent to work. The smallest little red power button light or just a car driving by the house will distract you making it hard to find the perfect location for it. At my house I have a spare room that I trip in total darkness but I have dogs and live on a street where cars drive down so I have evolved the program to incorporate wireless headphones. Can't have any distractions to let your mind wander off from the task at hand.

With 5g+ in total darkness I see the same thing with OEVs and CEVs. It's awesome. You can unfocus your eyes like you are staring at one of those 3D pictures and zone out to go very deep. A lot of good things have come out of this type of trip for me.


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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: Dark_Star]
    #26851641 - 07/29/20 01:40 PM (10 months, 12 days ago)

Dear Dark star
I need some advice on heroic doses while microdosing. currently, I am doing Stamets stacking 5 days on 2 days off (0.1-0.2g B+) . I have been doing it for about a month. I am planning to have a heroic dose in about a month. Previously I took 5grams and well, I got connected.
Now, given the fact that I am microdosing, May I ask what is your suggestion on the heroic dose? should I go with 7 grams?  I am around 70kg of weight. I highly appreciate any help :smile:
Ps, for trip killer I use vitamin B3. it kills the visuals, found it out mistakingly!


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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: hightech]
    #26851766 - 07/29/20 02:49 PM (10 months, 12 days ago)

This is an old thread. Really old on first pages.

I wouldn't overshoot the 5g dose by 2g more.  Probably less than 6g if your definitely don't want the tolerance to be an issue but really no more than that. 7g is a monster compared to 5g ime.


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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: hightech]
    #26851886 - 07/29/20 03:53 PM (10 months, 12 days ago)

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Ps, for trip killer I use vitamin B3. it kills the visuals, found it out mistakingly!





I'd say start your own thread, you posted in a thread that is nearly 20 years old...and the last time someone posted was nearly 4 years ago.


Vit B3 is definitely not going to end a trip....and visuals doesn't necessarily = tripping . I can be full on tripping while not experiencing much visuals.

Don't have vitamins on hand thinking you can use them to make the trip stop lol.

Even benzos don't really end a trip completely and they're much more powerful than vitamin B3 lol.






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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: openmind] * 1
    #26851952 - 07/29/20 04:13 PM (10 months, 12 days ago)

Yeah the benzos just do their normal thing in that they remove anxiety about your current situation. I've only used them twice and I was still tripping but not bothered.


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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26852548 - 07/29/20 09:46 PM (10 months, 12 days ago)

thank you all for your kind responses :smile:


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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: CaptBeefheart]
    #26963142 - 10/01/20 02:26 AM (8 months, 11 days ago)

Hard to say as I have found that size dose both enjoyable and frightening depending in what state of mind you are in. Remember you are part of the recipe. Make sure you choose a super safe environment and that you are in a calm state of mind for starters. Enjoy !


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my experience with 5 dried grams (never agin) [Re: Allycat]
    #27260018 - 03/19/21 09:39 AM (2 months, 28 days ago)

I did the 5 dried grams of albino penis envy for the first time. Most i have done prior is maybe 2 grams.

strated out fine i guess. it was a really heavy body feeling at first then the visuals kicked in. open or closed i could see visuals. my trip sitter looked orange and then laying on the bed oppossite me he looked like a pharoah. it was wierd. Then the trip started to go downhill. His chiwawa got like super big in my mind and visually. I got scared that if i was to go lay down and pass out he would eat me (ficking manic i know but bear with me) then my buddy started playing wierd shit idk like porn i dont understand it i told him to turn it off and he did. then i was still freaking out so i vommited and that did nothing but make the sink worse. After that i had nasuea the whole time. Since i was freaking out i convinced my buddy i had to get home (bad idea). So i got my keys and hopped in my car and drove home.

That was the worst 1/3 hour of my life. It felt like eternity. It felt like i was in a loop and no matter how hard i tried to get closer to home something was always blocking me and stopping me. I pulled over a number of times in back alleys to periodically close my eyes and stuff and deal with the naseau. When i finally did get home i made it safely without getting in an accident or killing someone thank God. Then the trip got better cause i was in my own environent with family and i just laid in bed for 2 hours or so waiting for the effects to wear off. They finally did around 7pm to 8pm. (i took the dose around 145).

Now lesson learned is this i must be at home where family is and my bed and all that cause otherwose i lose my shit cause i guess i cant handle terrance mckenna doses. Never again with sich a high dose. I think 1 or 2 grams should be enough for me if i just take it my room and chillax like the last time i did mushrooms. Anyways anyone else ever been stupid enough to get in a car and drive a half hour while tripping? I was in fight or flight and i had to get home. On second thought i should have asked by buddy to drive me but i was high and was only thinking of safety and ending the trip at that point


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Re: my experience with 5 dried grams (never agin) [Re: jnetzel]
    #27260301 - 03/19/21 01:26 PM (2 months, 27 days ago)

Its been a while. But i once had the most powerful experience of my life with about 10g dry. I had taken 5g at first, then when it was coming on after about an hour i took 2 cid tabs. About 400ug . After the cid peaked i took 5g more. Its hard to jot it all back down, it was awhile back. But i remember listening to good music.(Grand Funk Railroad, Greatful Dead, etc.) I spent alot of time reflecting on my life and my choices and health. etc. I remember crying for a while and then being happy after that, because i was accepting that i had to make some changes in my life. Some people spend their entire life searching for happiness/love as if its a material object you can buy. Its something you create yourself. Be happy, be love. This was a very powerful night of "soul bashing" . Lots of cool CEVs, at one point i remember seeing millions of ants swarming around in waves to the electronic music i was jamming to. It was pretty spectacular. I havent done acid since that night, i havent felt the need to. Maybe later on in life, i feel that im benefiting from the mushi, and at lower dosage. Tripping balls can be fun and can be that"self smack in the face" that you need. But you dont need to slap yourself every day. haha . Take it easy man, but take it.


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