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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: cannabinated]
#27251056 - 03/13/21 10:01 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: morrowasted]
#27251057 - 03/13/21 10:01 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks, MW. I gave him a link to VAERS and he's filed.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: cannabinated]
#27251069 - 03/13/21 10:11 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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cannabinated said: https://twitter.com/MaryVought/status/1352696236021862401?s=20
fun
Not reversed because it never took effect. Also the order was stupid as hell. Drug manufacturers raised the price so that they could manufacture discounts. It's likely biden's cabinet will actually do something proactive and effective to lower insulin costs eventually though
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Baby_Hitler] 1
#27251127 - 03/13/21 10:40 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Do you know what happens to an experimental vaccine that is in the public domain and any manufacturer can make? It doesn’t get made by anyone. If you’re a company, why would you take the huge risk to retool your factories to produce an unproven vaccine that may not work, and if it does work you’re going to be undercut by other manufacturers. Vaccine development is a huge risk, especially for covid because to be a competitive product you’re not going to be able to wait until approval to start manufacturing. In fact, you need a manufacturer to make enough doses to just run a clinical trial.
What it comes down to is without exclusive rights, a company is not going to take the risk on an unproven vaccine
I guarantee you there are many more perfectly viable covid vaccines that have been developed in public and private labs around the world that will never be manufactured because it’s not worth the risk. The covid vaccine market is very competitive and we’re already seeing evidence that the AstraZeneca shot may not work out very well for the company.
The question you should be asking is why there aren’t state owned non profit pharmaceutical companies that can manufacture products developed in publicly funded labs.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: koods]
#27251271 - 03/13/21 12:28 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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because of epstein
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: cannabinated]
#27251324 - 03/13/21 01:01 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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The question you should be asking is why there aren’t state owned non profit pharmaceutical companies that can manufacture products developed in publicly funded labs.
because "communism"
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: morrowasted]
#27251394 - 03/13/21 01:33 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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So communism and Epstein
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: koods]
#27251434 - 03/13/21 01:56 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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huh. The pharmaceutical industry is way more fucked up than I thought it was. I assumed the question was rhetorical at first, since having nonprofit government funded pharmaceutical labs should incentivize novel research, which is often too risky to cost-justify for the private sector despite it's potential benefits to public health and the promise of huge profits when it pans out, and publicly-funded government-run pharmaceutical production should create an environment for producing vital drugs at cheap rates that aren't subject to fickle profiteering decisions like the ones that create artificial insulin shortages and insane insulin prices. You'd think those things would be worth developing so we could reap the public benefits as a society and so private companies could take advantage of the public's investment in high risk research by following up with optimizing that research into novel drugs that are profitable to develop and sell since the public sector took on all the major risks in R&D. I always forget about the Pedo orgies where everybody gets an equal slice of the pie though. Those things ruin everything.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: koods] 1
#27251489 - 03/13/21 02:44 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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koods said: So communism and Epstein
I mean come on, you know the answers. Primarily, there's a shitload of people in this country who are too dumb and/or selfish to understand the benefits of getting taxed more to do/make something that would (seemingly) have a disproportionate benefit for OTHER members of the society.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: morrowasted]
#27251524 - 03/13/21 03:12 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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what i was really trying to do was find this thread where a scientist was citing instances at his company where it took an unusually long time getting approval and supplies for manufacture
I cant find cited examples of materials that are hard to obtain to produce mRNA
https://www.propublica.org/article/covid-vaccine-supply
this article talks about filters and nucleotides but the industry is all filters and nucleotides
The only thing that would make sense eating up rollout time is QC
its ez and fast as hell to make rna
and the vaccine was ready in december and bidens tryin to send kids to school without it and not pay teachers
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: cannabinated]
#27251527 - 03/13/21 03:18 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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its really sad tho
cause like science is suposed 2 b good and not greedy
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: cannabinated] 1
#27251529 - 03/13/21 03:20 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Science for the most part is not greedy. manufacturing is however. Drugs have to ne produced by someone after they're designed and tested. Those people want the return on investments. Scientists are a lot more genuine but they have to work for someone
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: bodhisatta]
#27251592 - 03/13/21 04:53 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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i like scientists but science is fucced
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: cannabinated]
#27251636 - 03/13/21 05:34 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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The University of Oxford developed a Covid vaccine, which they wanted to offer to the medical community for free, as a gift to humanity.
Then they got a voisit by Bill Gates and they ended up selling it for-profit to AstraZeneca
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Asante]
#27251661 - 03/13/21 05:56 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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The vaccine was developed in January, and they had nobody to manufacture it for four months. They wanted to let anyone manufacture it, but nobody is going to take the risk of ramping up production of a vaccine that has yet to been proven effective if they don’t have exclusive rights to sell it. I’m sure once the clinical trials ended, you could find plenty of companies willing to jump on board, but then you wouldn’t see any actual supply for another six months.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Asante]
#27251664 - 03/13/21 05:59 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Impossible Bill Gates is a moral and honorable man.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: koods]
#27251670 - 03/13/21 06:08 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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koods said:
I guarantee you there are many more perfectly viable covid vaccines that have been developed in public and private labs around the world that will never be manufactured because it’s not worth the risk. The covid vaccine market is very competitive and we’re already seeing evidence that the AstraZeneca shot may not work out very well for the company.
The question you should be asking is why there aren’t state owned non profit pharmaceutical companies that can manufacture products developed in publicly funded labs.
Nowhere? In the whole world? Not even in any of those bad ol socialist countries?
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#27251688 - 03/13/21 06:27 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Oh I’m sure there are.
Manufacturing a vaccine on the scale required for covid really does limit the options to the largest, most experienced pharmaceutical companies.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: koods]
#27251697 - 03/13/21 06:31 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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bill gates is a patent troll
its always been his only income
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: cannabinated]
#27251700 - 03/13/21 06:33 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, he definitely hasn't made any money at all with microsoft....
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