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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: A.k.a]
    #27240239 - 03/06/21 10:21 AM (3 years, 23 days ago)

So, I suck at growing mushrooms I guess. Why are they so tiny and unhealthy looking? LOL what a bummer.

I did trip pretty hard last night off of 12 grams of tiny fresh mushrooms and they tasted awesomm. It took about an hour and a half till I was peeking.



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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: humanfly]
    #27240254 - 03/06/21 10:33 AM (3 years, 23 days ago)

That tub looks super bacterial, at least you got a dose though.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: A.k.a]
    #27241270 - 03/07/21 12:41 AM (3 years, 22 days ago)

So I dryed my tubs and got 12g dry from 2 6qt tubes. Made a soke and its second flush with biger shrooms! So on new boxes I keep lids on till 100% colonization. Becose I opend lids from minute I mixed it with coir, and fucked up....

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Ras_Irie]
    #27242707 - 03/08/21 05:58 AM (3 years, 21 days ago)

Going to try this out. Great post.

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: sinisterspores]
    #27243620 - 03/08/21 04:35 PM (3 years, 21 days ago)

Are you proud sensei

I make seriousl cereal



Only 1 grain kernel use


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #27244815 - 03/09/21 10:44 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

9 days incubating with closed lids, all boxes look same, should i case it? I have coir or peat moss with rised ph. Have no verm. My boxes ar coir, 30% old hores poo, and rye spawn. Or should I wait till pining to introduce FAE?

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Ras_Irie]
    #27244927 - 03/09/21 12:14 PM (3 years, 20 days ago)

Casing isn’t required but if you want to do it they’re ready.


Air is good the whole time, most people are skipping spawn run and starting fruiting conditions from day one now.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: A.k.a]
    #27245017 - 03/09/21 01:16 PM (3 years, 20 days ago)

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Casing isn’t required but if you want to do it they’re ready.


Air is good the whole time, most people are skipping spawn run and starting fruiting conditions from day one now.



I did it with first boxes and they dried out, froots were small. Maby gap was to big... But shrooms had fuzzy feat... So that why I keep my lids closed till 100% colonization, will introduce to fruting tomorow. I have drie air in my house...

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Ras_Irie]
    #27245123 - 03/09/21 02:18 PM (3 years, 20 days ago)

Me too, I’ve had 7% humidity this week.


A top layer of coir at spawn helps a ton. Just keep the lid on the box and it should be fine that’s what I do.


But again, a good coir top layer makes a world of difference with low humidity.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: A.k.a]
    #27245329 - 03/09/21 04:20 PM (3 years, 20 days ago)

My second container looks much better. Just came home from work to this . It was a syringe labeled Z strain which was a freebie from my vendor.



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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: humanfly] * 1
    #27245369 - 03/09/21 04:52 PM (3 years, 20 days ago)

Those look really nice! I'd clone that big one

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: humanfly] * 1
    #27245843 - 03/09/21 11:06 PM (3 years, 19 days ago)

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My second container looks much better. Just came home from work to this . It was a syringe labeled Z strain which was a freebie from my vendor.






It looks green to me in bottom corner, or its just foto ? Nice froots man, how do you keep youre box? Tub on tub?

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Ras_Irie]
    #27248604 - 03/11/21 05:04 PM (3 years, 18 days ago)

I think it was bruising maybe? Great trip though, very potent. I had the lid on, then when they got to big, I put a tub on the tub for about 2 more days till the were ready to harvest

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: humanfly]
    #27258024 - 03/17/21 07:55 PM (3 years, 12 days ago)

2nd flush from a 170g corn grainspawn shoebox grow. I took clones from this culture and two plates look good.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #27273333 - 03/28/21 03:31 PM (3 years, 1 day ago)

i am going to be trying my first shoebox tomorrow. i am grating brf cakes to coir. i was wondering if anybody could help me with a couple of questions about second flush please?

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do i just harvest, then soak the substrate in tap water for an hour, pour it out and wait for a second flush?

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will the substrate be somewhat solid at that point? so pouring it out is just a matter of tipping the container?

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do i do just keep doing this for further flushes until nothing more grows?



thank you for the help :heart:

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: greenladel]
    #27273352 - 03/28/21 03:46 PM (3 years, 1 day ago)

1. Yes
2. Yes it will be solid but you just need to be careful when dumping it, you could snap it in half but you would have to be negligent.  I just put my forearm and hand long ways with the substrate and dump it over, you'll see what I mean when you do it.
3. Yea I just keep going until nothing comes any more, can usually get 4 flushes.

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: PreparationH]
    #27273362 - 03/28/21 03:55 PM (3 years, 1 day ago)

The myc will pull the coir together into a solid brick that’s pretty sturdy.


If the first flush is small to medium you could just soak the surface down with the spray bottle. Big flushes suck a ton of water out though.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: A.k.a]
    #27273983 - 03/29/21 06:01 AM (3 years, 17 hours ago)

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1. Yes
2. Yes it will be solid but you just need to be careful when dumping it, you could snap it in half but you would have to be negligent.  I just put my forearm and hand long ways with the substrate and dump it over, you'll see what I mean when you do it.
3. Yea I just keep going until nothing comes any more, can usually get 4 flushes.




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The myc will pull the coir together into a solid brick that’s pretty sturdy.


If the first flush is small to medium you could just soak the surface down with the spray bottle. Big flushes suck a ton of water out though.





thank you both very much for the help! :heart:
the forearm thing makes sense, its how i imagined doing it if it was hardened.

i cant wait to do this later!
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Josex]
    #27274014 - 03/29/21 06:38 AM (3 years, 16 hours ago)

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Glad it worked so fast. Just put the lid on normally and wait. I wouldn't dubtub it, at least not unless you need to if that box happens to grow lid pushers. That surface can dry out way faster with a dubtub and although the surface is looking way better than before, it's still looking a bit dry.

One thing you can do right now is cover the surface with dry vermiculite straight out of the bag, then spray it down with tap water, really soak it down. You'll know when to stop when the verm can't hold more water and it starts pooling a bit.

The verm is going to act as a pinning platform and will help in keeping the surface from drying.




You can saturate vermiculite by soaking it in a container.  When I make plant clones, I use two red solo cups, One for the actual clone has small holes cut in the bottom for drainage and a solid one that the first one, full of verm, sits in.  Slowly run tap water into it until it is full and the verm is saturated, if you run the water too fast it will blow the verm out and all over.  After a few seconds pull the cup with the verm out of the solid one and let drain a minute.  Voila, no pissing around dribbling water with eye droppers trying to saturate your verm.

You can also fill the solid cup with water and dunk the other cup into it, just be careful to do it slowly so that the verm doesn't float out.  This is what I do every few days to refresh the water after I have the 'greenhouse' bag taped around the cup and plant cutting.

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: icpurple]
    #27275156 - 03/29/21 11:33 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

So did more boxes and put bulk substrate strait to box again and have lots of side pins, cant get good FAE, loosing moisture quick and have to much of co2, some mushrooms cottony as hell... Olso have 66qt monotub wich looks moist and knoting a lot, waiting for pins to start forming. It seams that for me it more easy to make monotub, cant manage good continion in shoebox. I spray and mist when I can but result are pore, getting substrate to drie if I try to decrease evaporation then there is not inaf air exchange. Will see how the monotub will perfore with froots, but I just fill a mono and she is doing its fink. So maby I stick to monos, becose shoebox for me is a chaose :laugh:

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