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Nichrome
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Well drilling
#27241114 - 03/06/21 10:03 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Anyone have experience? I need a lot of water for upcoming agriculture projects. Preferably around 2k gallons per week. The well would have to be off grid so I'm thinking about a solar well pump that fills a 2k water tank.
Please shoot me some ideas about different well types and drilling and everything. Pretend I know nothing (this won't be hard as I know nothing) about wells and school me from the beginning.
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Re: Well drilling [Re: Nichrome]
#27241136 - 03/06/21 10:13 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think it all depends on how deep your water line is.
Could be really deep or not. They are pretty expensive.
I'm guessing you'll have to get pretty deep to access to that kinda water.
Have you called any companies about it, or asked neighbors with wells about depth and pricing?
Google might even have that type of info available, wouldn't really surprise me.
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Depending on where you live, 2k gallons a week, gonna be straining the everyday well. Secondly, you need to locate the water. Every August, more than a simple 5 loads of laundry a week, my well goes dry. You really really need a hydrologists. Gonna need a drilling rig. Could spend $5k just locating a water source,. Could be 30 feet down, or 175 feet, that's a lot vertical distance that pump has to pump..And you'll need one hell of a solar set up to run a pump, depending on depth. And off grid, your solar panels gonna have to have many hours of direct sunlight every day. Solar panels, gonna attract attention in the woods, or from the air.unsure if your off grid, is my off grid thoughts., lol.
Only way to calculate the pump power, is to know how deep the water source is, then figure solar requirements to run the pump that's strong enough to meet vertical, horizontal distance and GPH requirements.
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Re: Well drilling [Re: Tstone]
#27241178 - 03/06/21 10:52 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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A live well, could be right next to your agri project, or 75 yards away, so, I'd pick water source before, agri location, if possible. Really basic question is, do you live in wet environment or arid?.if Arid, most likely much more challenging to find a water source, and most likely a deeper well.
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Water is practically on the surface and is springing forth from the ground on it's own in a lot of places.
According to the county for a potable or house water supply the well has to go down past at least 10 feet from where it goes through rock to prevent groundwater contamination. There are no rules regarding wells for AG purposes. On most of the land there is only a couple to a few feet of "soil" before the shale starts and goes down deeper than I would ever want to drill. There is lot's of water everywhere as well as a 20 acre pond downhill from where the well will go. The pond is all spring fed by over a dozen springs and is always full regardless of rain. Most of the surface springs stop flowing in the dead of the summer but are always "wet".
Another option is to use a rampump to push water up to a tank for ag use but that would be a 1000 foot pipe and a 400 foot elevation hike to where the tank will be. I think at that point a well is a cheaper option and more reliable.
Eventually I'd like to build a house in this spot so the well will be installed to code for a dwelling and big enough for about 10 acres of gardens, mushrooms, orchards, bees, animals, etc... The property as a whole is over 100 acres.
The well is the first thing that determines all the other projects. There is plenty of space and plenty of south facing full sun.
Also the solar well pump would just be at first till the big veg oil beast 30KW gets a brick house up there. Then the well will get a propper pump that can handle what will be going on by then.
This year just a couple dozen trees and a 1/4 acre garden and some chickens and rabbits. 6 100 foot mushroom hoops too.
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Edited by Nichrome (03/06/21 11:03 PM)
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Re: Well drilling [Re: Nichrome]
#27241192 - 03/06/21 11:03 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'd bring in some one,, hey, thinking about building a eco friendly house, but I want to find a water source. And I might consider a pool in the future, what can you tell me about a solar well? Simple, no charge conversation... What's involved?
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Re: Well drilling [Re: Tstone]
#27241194 - 03/06/21 11:04 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's a good call. It's rural here and folks like to get their foot in the door.
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Re: Well drilling [Re: Tstone]
#27241197 - 03/06/21 11:07 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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If it's legal agriculture, then be honest, if not, bullshit a bit, just to gather info..
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Re: Well drilling [Re: Tstone]
#27241207 - 03/06/21 11:11 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's all legal. Frankly I'm not used to being able to be so honest and out in the open, as I spent so so many years doing things behind closed gates and off the radar. Kind of freaky. Still getting used to it.
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Re: Well drilling [Re: Tstone]
#27241208 - 03/06/21 11:12 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'd ask, When you schedule an appointment, also inquire about, if they might have a solar expert that can come out at the same time. Solar and conversions etc.., a total different math game, and there's various solar systems, back up batteries etc.. gonna get expensive if mistakes are made from the beginning.
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Edited by Tstone (03/06/21 11:13 PM)
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Re: Well drilling [Re: Tstone]
#27241210 - 03/06/21 11:14 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's possible I'll set up a decent array. The sun in the field is great and all day and I could use some extra juice.
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Re: Well drilling [Re: Tstone]
#27241212 - 03/06/21 11:16 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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And being rural, I'm sure there's a few solid folks around, that are Well pros..
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Re: Well drilling [Re: Nichrome]
#27241217 - 03/06/21 11:17 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Are you in norcal?
I'm gunna be on a big farm up there this may. I'll also be blowing it up with mush.
Trying to make 60k in that 7 months or so.
Pumped.
Edited by Notarealguy (03/06/21 11:18 PM)
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Re: Well drilling [Re: Tstone]
#27241218 - 03/06/21 11:18 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Honestly, every environment is different, and the best you can do is have pros look at your space... And have listen to your requirements.
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Re: Well drilling [Re: Tstone]
#27241222 - 03/06/21 11:24 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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No, New England.
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Re: Well drilling [Re: Nichrome]
#27241223 - 03/06/21 11:25 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Oh word, I don't know anything about your part of the world, but good luck man. Hope you get your goal accomplished. For real.
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You can dig down 12-24” and water starts filling in your hole on my property......we’re full of clay until about 15-20’ down you hit good sand. The well for my house is about 335’ deep with a 240v pump. I’ve seen some solar/inverter setups that charge about 5-6 12v batteries and when sun is down it’ll run lights and stuff in a barn, but if you’re running well pump off of it, you might be just fine. Of course if the fuel is cheap enough up there, just run a generator. It cost about $3500 I think to have our well dug but that was also including the pump and tank.
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Re: Well drilling [Re: Nichrome]
#27252252 - 03/14/21 08:55 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Here's a solar pump you could use in a pit dug by a day laborer for agriculture. Apparently it can run dry without damage.

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